Preview Exciting The Witcher 2 Hands-On Impressions

[waywardOne]

my point is they're clumsily including a mechanic absent from the first game. just leave it out if you can't do it right. it shows terrible judgment. how many other "not in witcher" mechanics will they haphazardly throw in to appeal to a wider audience?

 

[dr. one]

the best cRPG since The Witcher, at worst.

 

[CrimHead]

Best cRPG since Heavy Rain.

 

[ghostdog]

<p>And those other one's of you fearing that stealth would be actually a valid gameplay element throughout the whole game this is good news as well:</p>
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<p>Having escaped from his cell, Geralt has to make his way out of the prison. This is where the non-linearity and player choice comes into play. Do you just go on a rampage, killing every guard in sight? Or do you take the stealthy approach, extinguishing torches to create darkness and then breaking necks from behind? Geralt's magic medallion allows him to see enemies in the dark <em> </em>with a glow and also highlights things like water, which creates noise if you walk through it.</p>
<p><strong>If that sounds a bit too stealthy for you, don't worry. The stealth aspect won't be something you can do in the whole game.</strong> Although certain sections will allow you to take the stealthy approach, this isn't a core mechanic where you choose between straight-up action and stealth gameplay for the whole game. Because the stealthy approach is harder, you will get more XP by taking it.</p>

If you can't stealth the whole game, then Witcher 2 is dead to me. I mean the first game was the best implementation of stealth since Thief and now you can't use it all the time ? Unforgivable. You could even sneak-fuck the women in TW1 without them even knowing it... and now this... disgrace ?! Bah, another PC franchise killed by next-gen console popamole.

 

[Roguey]

Random stealth sections are so early-to-mid-2000s. At least it looks like there won't be an instant game-over if you botch it?

 

[Ancient]

If you can't stealth the whole game, then Witcher 2 is dead to me. I mean the first game was the best implementation of stealth since Thief and now you can't use it all the time ? Unforgivable. You could even sneak-fuck the women in TW1 without them even knowing it... and now this... disgrace ?! Bah, another PC franchise killed by next-gen console popamole.

there was stealth in 1st one ?

 

[made]

You could buy charms that would repel drowners and other creatures, allowing you to stealthily pass through their hordes.

 

[ghostdog]

there was stealth in 1st one ?

Sarcasm check fail ?

 

[Baron]

Ancient and Baron celebrating the release of The Witcher 2,
immortalised, within these hallowed threads, as true believers
shortly before the Polish RPG forms the core of the future's utopian society.

 

[MapMan]

Czekaj, Exmit to polak?

 

[CraigCWB]

my point is they're clumsily including a mechanic absent from the first game. just leave it out if you can't do it right. it shows terrible judgment. how many other "not in witcher" mechanics will they haphazardly throw in to appeal to a wider audience?

I tend to agree with your overall sentiment that it's better not to include features than to do a half-ass and annoying hack-job of it.

But define "right" when it comes to stealth, if you can? I kinda liked the way that older D&D based games did it where you could only start "sneaking" if you were already out of anyone's view, and once you were spotted your cover was blown until you were someplace out of view again. It made sense to me. After all, if you're walking around all nonchalant and such and then start crawling around on your belly right in front of people it's gonna attract a lot of attention, right? And if you walk into a 7-11 and walk behind one of the aisles and then hide, it's not very likely the clerk is gonna forget you're in the store right? If he can't see you anymore and he should be able to see you, he's gonna be real suspicious isn't he?

The way games have been implementing stealth the last 10 years or so amounts to an easy-mode cheat as far as I'm concerned. Anyone who is claiming that stealth approaches are "harder" and therefore worthy of extra exp and rewards is just deluding themselves into believing they aren't taking the easiest path.

 

[CraigCWB]

If you can't stealth the whole game, then Witcher 2 is dead to me. I mean the first game was the best implementation of stealth since Thief...

You could even sneak-fuck the women in TW1 without them even knowing it... and now this... disgrace ?! Bah, another PC franchise killed by next-gen console popamole.

Fascinating, the way somebody who thinks women not even noticing they've been raped because somebody is sneaking is a great implementation of "stealth" talks about console popamole...

And "Thief" was a hacked up FPS where people were snooping and pooping instead of running and gunning, which is pretty close to console popamole as far as I'm concerned. What's that got to do with the Witcher or any other RPG? Thief was one of the first games that tried to be an "RPG lite" for console kiddies, and here you are pissing and moaning that the Witcher is turning into a console game because it's not more like Thief?

Whatever.

 

[Archibald]

Fascinating, the way somebody who thinks women not even noticing they've been raped because somebody is sneaking is a great implementation of "stealth" talks about console popamole...

Buy sacrasm detector.

And "Thief" was a hacked up FPS where people were snooping and pooping instead of running and gunning, which is pretty close to console popamole as far as I'm concerned. What's that got to do with the Witcher or any other RPG? Thief was one of the first games that tried to be an "RPG lite" for console kiddies, and here you are pissing and moaning that the Witcher is turning into a console game because it's not more like Thief?

Whatever.

Retarded.

 

[Melcar]

Thief was a shitty game with shitty stealth mechanics? Damn man, my life is a fucking lie.

 

[CraigCWB]

Thief was a shitty game with shitty stealth mechanics? Damn man, my life is a fucking lie.

I didn't say anything about it being a "shitty game" and I didn't comment about it's stealth mechanics. I'm wondering why people insist on bringing modified FPSes into a discussion about an RPG. If people want to play stealthed out first person shooters, guess what? The Witcher ain't it, and neither is the Witcher 2.

Y'all people who don't like real RPGs and insist on whining that RPGs aren't console-y enough for you just need to STFU. I have enough problems finding games I like to play, and I'm tired of game companies catering to the ADD demographic to the exclusion of all else. And yes, it really IS all about me. If I wanted to play console games I'd buy an effing console.

 

[Drakron]

QTE = no buy

 

[CraigCWB]

PS

Damn man, my life is a fucking lie.

Your stats here:

Joined: 20 Oct 2008
Posts: 6988

Dunno. That's an average of about 10 posts a day here every day for 2 years. I have no idea how many other websites you're on. You make the call.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

If you can't stealth the whole game, then Witcher 2 is dead to me. I mean the first game was the best implementation of stealth since Thief...

You could even sneak-fuck the women in TW1 without them even knowing it... and now this... disgrace ?! Bah, another PC franchise killed by next-gen console popamole.

Fascinating, the way somebody who thinks women not even noticing they've been raped because somebody is sneaking is a great implementation of "stealth" talks about console popamole...

And "Thief" was a hacked up FPS where people were snooping and pooping instead of running and gunning, which is pretty close to console popamole as far as I'm concerned. What's that got to do with the Witcher or any other RPG? Thief was one of the first games that tried to be an "RPG lite" for console kiddies, and here you are pissing and moaning that the Witcher is turning into a console game because it's not more like Thief?

Whatever.

 

[Baron]

I'm liking CraigCWB, heh.

Yep, let me pick out twelve ornery newfags languishing in Shitalt prison and I will take down Nazi Codexia, and blow up Kingcomrade.

 

[Baron]

And then there were three...

 

[PorkaMorka]

I don't understand how QTE became an acceptable form of gameplay.

Press button - watch cutscene

Are there really people out there who need to test themselves and determine if they're capable of pressing button?

Or is pressing button in and of itself a fun activity?

 

[Melcar]

Thread is not edgy enough, Bros.

 

[AlaCarcuss]

PS

Damn man, my life is a fucking lie.

Your stats here:

Joined: 20 Oct 2008
Posts: 6988

Dunno. That's an average of about 10 posts a day here every day for 2 years. I have no idea how many other websites you're on. You make the call.

Haha, good one - though it didn't shut him up, he's made 21 posts since then and the day ain't over yet.

I've often wondered about these codexer's with massive post counts in such a small amount of time - makes me think they spend more time here raging about games rather than actually playing them...

 

[Clockwork Knight]

I don't understand how QTE became an acceptable form of gameplay.

Press button - watch cutscene

Are there really people out there who need to test themselves and determine if they're capable of pressing button?

Or is pressing button in and of itself a fun activity?

I imagine the rationale is

Cutscenes = awesome, but you don't do anything

Normal gameplay = you do stuff, but there's no cutscene awesomeness

therefore, cutscenes where you press buttons = interactive movie heavan

 

[Archibald]

I don't understand how QTE became an acceptable form of gameplay.

And why not? It`s good addition if used well and at appriopriate places.