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Incline Games with BUILT-IN construction sets/editor utilities

KeighnMcDeath

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I had been thinking about a long while about making this thread and not just in terms of RPGS. Back in the 80s there started to be a slew of games (mostly from EA/Electronic Arts) that had not only the game but a utility/construction set to go with it. Some designers built raw construction sets with a few game examples on them like ACS, Gary Kitchen's Game Maker, etc etc.

I will recall a few games and get into some detail about them in later posts. Demon Stalkers was a gauntlet clone but it had a nifty feature to make your own dungeons. I should have realized my Dad's affinity to rats since that was the mob generator he used a lot.. bleh. Another is Ultimate Wizard which was perhaps yet another spin on Wizard 1-2 as earlier games (I found out about those later). It too had a map maker to build your own level. I recall my neighbor and myself drawing stuff up on paper on what to make. He had no clue about the game so his shit didn't make sense but I could adjust it. I knew how the game played so i had a better idea.

EA had quite a few of these. It wasn't until later things like Bard's tale Construction set came out or Forgotten Realms Unlimited Adventures swept the field burying BTCS.

Maybe I misremember but there seemed to be a few. Anyway, this thread is a out past to present GAMES that have such utilities. I really don't want to delve into complete modding tools set outside of games but maybe I should casually let those in as well. I want to make a list with examples divided into type of game and listed in chronological order. Knowing me, I'll get side-tracked.

A casual thread search didn't give me much when "construction set" was typed in (title only)

Adventure Construction Set (ACS)


Bard's Tale Construction Set


Bard's Tale Construction


The Bard's Tale Construction Set...Was anything decent ever made for it?


Bards tale construction set - spiritual successor?


Matt Chat 432: George Ziets on Adventure Construction Set, Earth & Beyond and Neverwinter Nights 2


And nada else unless it is buried by a different title (likely).

Adventure Games

Platform Games

Shoot-em Ups

First-Person Shooters

RPGS
* Tactical
* Action RPG (top down vs Iso)
* First Person Dungeon RPG (real-time vs TB)


Tactical Games
* Turn-based Tactical
* Real-Time Tactical

Simulators (City, Theme-park, etc)

OTHER

Should I add some categories?
 
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Scenario editors were pretty much standard for RTS games of the late 90s to early 00s.
Age of Empires 1 and 2, Age of Mythology, StarCraft, WarCraft 3. Probably a lot more I don't recall at the moment.
 

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homm games (all i think?), aow games (all i think?), songs of conquest, prodeus
Ah! I forgot to add tactical games and simulators like sim city, themepark etc. RTS should be separate from tactical war gaming as well. Maybe tower defense should be lumped with RTS or ARPGs. See, the tree starts branching the more I think about it.
 

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Hmmm.... casual search....

There was no official map editor for Warcraft: Orcs & Humans. The only official editor ever released was a unit editor that came with patch 1.20.

https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=66499

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warcraft/comments/okod1a/orcs_humans_map_editor_found_and_lost_help/

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/World_Editor

https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/World...was no official map,that came with patch 1.20.

Not terribly helpful and obviously the game didn't originally have one. Then again, DOOM didn't gave a map maker when it came out as shareware or episodes 1-3 if I recall. But soon.... aww shit man! THE GATES OF HELL OPENED UP TO MODDING!
 

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Arcanum had an editor included directly in the game.
Morrowind had its editor on a separate CD IIRC, or as an optional install, but it definitely came in the box. Dunno whether Oblivion and Skyrim had the editors included in the box or were separate downloads from the official website.
 

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Fallout Tactics had an editor. It was a separate .exe however.
 

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