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[Siobhan]

Quick question about Metro Last Light since it just got released on GOG: is it true that this is nothing like the Stalker games and instead goes for linear level design with scripted sequences full of cinematic awesomeness? That's what I gathered from a quick glance at let's plays, and if that's the majority of the game I'm not interested (unless there's some really good mods, kinda like Dark Mod was the only reason for me to buy Doom 3).

 

[Ivan]

Last Light is, for the most part, a corridor shooter with stealth elements. It shows promise in one open section, however it looks gorgeous and has one excellent STALKERish dlc mission.

If you skip the campaign, I won't blame you, but definitely check out that DLC, it's called Kshatriya

 

[Bruticis]

The new Library with no manual sorting sucks.

Who buys those old games on GOG to play them anyways? GOG is for buying games to arrange them nicely on your own personal shelf.

The bigger the collection, the bigger them old school feels.

GoG's whole schtick and clientele is people clinging to the 20th century for dear life. The fake digital shelf, completely inappropriate for the media it represents, is the cheese that the digital download bitter pills were shoved in to hide them from people kicking and screaming refusing to join the 21st century. Getting rid of that phoney comfort for those people can't end well.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

The shelf was just a visually appealing UI for the list. Looks like the shelf is still there, but without the "boxes" it looks kind of weird, like a halfway point between the old shelf style and Steam's grid display.

By the way, it's fitting how a codexer got the vote of the beast.


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[Grim Monk]

GoG's whole schtick and clientele is people clinging to the 20th century for dear life. The fake digital shelf, completely inappropriate for the media it represents, is the cheese that the digital download bitter pills were shoved in to hide them from people kicking and screaming refusing to join the 21st century. Getting rid of that phoney comfort for those people can't end well.

Here you go:

21st Century Progress!

I'm sure you always daydreamed of the future when you wouldn't even be able start your games without a "client".

Valve could easily provide a "download installer" option for those people who trust their customers.
They are unwilling to take this step.

 

[cw8]

Two words, kid. Generator.

Pretty sure you need like diesel to run it. We used those quite extensively to power vehicular signal setups for our compulsory 2 and 1/2 years of national service in the army. That was about 12 years ago.

 

[Bruticis]

GoG's whole schtick and clientele is people clinging to the 20th century for dear life. The fake digital shelf, completely inappropriate for the media it represents, is the cheese that the digital download bitter pills were shoved in to hide them from people kicking and screaming refusing to join the 21st century. Getting rid of that phoney comfort for those people can't end well.

Here you go:

21st Century Progress!

I'm sure you always daydreamed of the future when you wouldn't even be able start your games without a "client".

Valve could easily provide a "download installer" option for those people who trust their customers.
They are unwilling to take this step.

I'm not sure what this screenshot is supposed to prove? I've never had any issues with Steam failing to install a game. Have you contacted Crispy for tech support? I know the future is a grim dark terrifying place, but change can be good. I'll hold you.

 

[Bruticis]

Pretty sure you need like diesel to run it. We used those quite extensively to power vehicular signal setups for our compulsory 2 and 1/2 years of national service in the army. That was about 12 years ago.

Commie detected.

 

[thesoup]

GOG is truly Steam for people too old/ retarded to use computers.

 

[Bruticis]

GOG is truly Steam for people too old/ retarded to use computers.

And shelf lovers!

 

[Karwelas]

GOG is truly Steam for people too old/ retarded to use computers.

At least we own games there, not borrow them.

 

[Bruticis]

GOG is truly Steam for people too old/ retarded to use computers.

At least we own a license to use a game until the publisher/rights holder says otherwise.

Fixed some typos for you.

 

[Karwelas]

GOG is truly Steam for people too old/ retarded to use computers.

At least we own a license to use a game until the publisher/rights holder says otherwise.

Fixed some typos for you.

Actually, when GOG lost their licences, you still owe a game when you buy it. They actually was pissed becouse their rights for Fallout 1,2 and tactics was ending so they started to give it to everyone for free. I still owe them.

 

[Bruticis]

GOG is truly Steam for people too old/ retarded to use computers.

At least we own a license to use a game until the publisher/rights holder says otherwise.

Fixed some typos for you.

Actually, when GOG lost their licences, you still owe a game when you buy it. They actually was pissed becouse their rights for Fallout 1,2 and tactics was ending so they started to give it to everyone for free. I still owe them.

You still don't own the game. GoG simply lost the license to sell the game but didn't pull the game from existing customers (which Steam doesn't do either). Read your local EULA, k? You own a game when you can reverse engineer it and resell it as your own.

 

[cw8]

Pretty sure you need like diesel to run it. We used those quite extensively to power vehicular signal setups for our compulsory 2 and 1/2 years of national service in the army. That was about 12 years ago.

Commie detected.

Nah, just Singapore

 

[Bruticis]

Pretty sure you need like diesel to run it. We used those quite extensively to power vehicular signal setups for our compulsory 2 and 1/2 years of national service in the army. That was about 12 years ago.

Commie detected.

Nah, just Singapore

What's the difference?

 

[cw8]

What's the difference?

Lol, go google or something. I don't really wanna bother to explain.

 

[Thane Solus]

GOG is truly Steam for people too old/ retarded to use computers.

At least we own a license to use a game until the publisher/rights holder says otherwise.

Fixed some typos for you.

Actually, when GOG lost their licences, you still owe a game when you buy it. They actually was pissed becouse their rights for Fallout 1,2 and tactics was ending so they started to give it to everyone for free. I still owe them.

I am sure that move pretty much pissed off Bethesda, which is glorious.

 

[Bruticis]

What's the difference?

Lol, go google or something. I don't really wanna bother to explain.

Ok, I'm at google now. What's the next step?

 

[Karwelas]

What's the difference?

Lol, go google or something. I don't really wanna bother to explain.

Ok, I'm at google now. What's the next step?

Google google. Click link to google. Repeat.

 

[cw8]

Ok, I'm at google now. What's the next step?

There's a text input bar in the middle. Just type the following
"Why are steam fanboys somewhat annoying"
Should give you all the answers to the meaning of life.

 

[Bruticis]

Ok, I'm at google now. What's the next step?

There's a text input bar in the middle. Just type the following
"Why are steam fanboys somewhat annoying"
Should give you all the answers to the meaning of life.

Now, now, be nice. This is the GoG thread, after all. A safe haven from the madness of the fast paced, modern world with it's silly innovations like electricity and what not.

 

[Grim Monk]

Here you go:

21st Century Progress!

I'm sure you always daydreamed of the future when you wouldn't even be able start your games without a "client".

Valve could easily provide a "download installer" option for those people who trust their customers.
They are unwilling to take this step.

I'm not sure what this screenshot is supposed to prove? I've never had any issues with Steam failing to install a game. Have you contacted Crispy for tech support? I know the future is a grim dark terrifying place, but change can be good. I'll hold you.

It means that "when I close the Steam Client the games don't run from "exe".
And for me this is a problem.

At least we own a license to use a game until the publisher/rights holder says otherwise.

Fixed some typos for you.

Actually, when GOG lost their licences, you still owe a game when you buy it. They actually was pissed becouse their rights for Fallout 1,2 and tactics was ending so they started to give it to everyone for free. I still owe them.

You still don't own the game. GoG simply lost the license to sell the game but didn't pull the game from existing customers (which Steam doesn't do either). Read your local EULA, k? You own a game when you can reverse engineer it and resell it as your own.

I oppose and disagree with laws that erode the First-sale doctrine.
It my belief that such laws are wrong, and against the public interest.
People should own the right to their individual purchased copy.
To keep and personal use as they see fit.

Also "EULAs" are not automatically laws.
They are what it is call a "potentially legally binding private document".
That is an important distinction.

 

[Bruticis]

I oppose and disagree with laws that erode the First-sale doctrine.
It my belief that such laws are wrong, and against the public interest.
People should own the right to their individual purchased copy.
To keep and personal use as they see fit.

Also "EULAs" are not automatically laws.
They are what it is call a "potentially legally binding private document".
That is an important distinction.

At the end of the day it really doesn't matter what you agree or disagree with in regards to EULA's and corporate ethics unless you are willing to challenge them in the court system. Until that time, it is what it is. I personally say it's their product and they can dictate how you use it as they see fit. As a consumer, you either support this practice or you don't buy not buying the shit that irritates you.

 

[Grim Monk]

At the end of the day it really doesn't matter unless you are willing to challenge them in the court system.
.......................
As a consumer, you either support this practice or you don't buy not buying the shit that irritates you.

Which is exactly what I'm doing.
In the courts, at the ballot box, and with my wallet...

I personally say it's their product and they can dictate how you use it as they see fit.

And I say my personal copy is my private property.
They should not have any right to impose what I do with it.
Outside of "unauthorized reproduction and mass distribution" limitations since it's a commercial product.

Copyright traditionally gave people (limited term) exclusive right to "reproduce and sell" their IP to recoup the labor/time/money invested its creation.
It did not extend to "dictating" the personal use of the (singular) copy they sold to me.
That was mine.
I refuse idly sit around and accept when corporation try to use underhanded legalisms to erode the value of my (bought and paid for) personal property.

And same for goes DRM.

It limits and denies me the full value of my purchase.
So buying games with DRM = self-eroding your rights as a customer.