aweigh joined 2005
2 decades ago, i was a teenager still, and i was sneaking with my friend into the technical school computer lab, to download porn image on floppy disks.
indeed.
codex helped me understand what i like and don't like about gaming and RPGs. for many years i liked what the hivemind liked because i wanted to fit in, but then i realized i actually prefer dungeon crawlers which have zero c&c and consider them superior to codexian-style crpgs. this doesn't mean i only want to play 'crawlers, far from it, but what it does mean is that i realized that
"codexian c&c" is bullshit, has nothing to do with what makes a good RPG, and oftentimes it's detrimental to the actual gameplay.
20 years talking about the same shit has also made me inured to most rpg stuff in general. one other thing i realized is that liking crpgs doesn't make you smart or better than anyone else, and that someone who is happy and plays Fortnite probably has more patrician tastes all things considered than someone who thinks playing Planescape: Torment makes them cultured.
Well you had me until the latter half of that last statement...
Kidding (mostly). It is okay to enjoy Fartnight and recognizing its strengths is patrician. However, sophistication in tastes matters. The video game Outward, or a true CRPG is more moncoled. Though I suppose you could articulate
why you enjoy Fartnite in a way that is monocled, and the way you express yourself may be more monocled when compared to how someone else expresses themselves in regard to why they like a game traditionally considered to be moncoled, such as Gothic 1 or 2, or Knights of the Chalice, BG 1, Ultima, Wizardry, etc (the usual suspects).
Although "I just like it
" can be pretty powerfully monocled too. Perhaps what I am getting at is simply parroting why something is good or letting someone else think for you is decidedly
not monocled (unless you happened to genuinely have the same experience and upon reflection, came to this conclusion in agreement), whereas fully embracing and engaging with how an experience affects
you is monocled in comparison.
what i'm really getting at is not whether one game is better than the other, it's more about how there are literally codexers here who think they are smart and cultured because they play planescape: torment or disco elysium, and about how there used to be a pretty strong hivemind here 5-10 years ago which fomented this kind of thinking and really supported it, lotta ego-stroking going on.
nowadays this really isn't as prevalent i suppose, though it could also have to do with the simple fact i don't really read most threads anymore since i don't have much to contribute to them (or want to), so i'm not as exposed to it... one thing i did conclude is that this kind of thinking, which in my opinion can be summed up to:
- muh c&c = words words words
- the less real gameplay the more patrician it is (anti-gameplay sentiment, i.e. 'dungeon crawlers aren't real RPGs' precisely because they are more gameplay and less words)
- (tangentially related) 'muh big city!!!' fetish, which i find utterly boring, on a surface level seems innocent enough but when you analyze who and why ppl worship muh big city it comes down to anti-gameplay sentiment (dungeons are not sophisticated enough, a 'true' rpg takes place inside a city where words words words happen)
so yeah, kinda despise all this nonsense now. i do admit i am being reactionary, i am actually NOT against having words words words at all, i can enjoy planescape just fine and actually do like the game, but it's more the philosophy behind WHY some codexers think X is better than Y that i take issue with.
...and this is without getting into the weeds of how i also found, through the years, that politically speaking the words words words crowd tends to align with left-wing politics and the pro-gameplay crowd tends to align with right-wing politics! So yeah, i do admit i have become more reactionary towards muh c&c fetishization (i SPIT on it!), and do tend to knee-jerk reserve my praise for anything that's more gameplay oriented, which is why i would have more praise for someone who says "i just play fortnite" and doesn't care about how that makes them look than for someone who thinks playing disco elysium or planescape means they have "good taste".
tbh i don't really have any point to my ranting about all this, to put this back on track here's a gaming channel:
probably already mentioned but GameSack is goated no diddy