Game News Gothic 4: Genesis for PS3, XBOX 360, and PC

[Sir_Brennus]

- Good grafix like in G3, fine. Spellbound can do them at acceptable frame rates, too (check Desperados 2 for that)

- Chapters - Yesssss! Never knew why those stupid guys from PB left it out of G3

- Cross-Console - Perfect! The Gothic control system was MADE for Joypads, so maybe maybe we'll get a fine inventory management and control system THIS time around.

- RPG elements - Fine! There is a slight chance that this action adventure will become a proper RPG in round 4.

I'm pleased with all I hear about Gothic 4. I will buy this one on release day, while the next PB atrocity will be an ebay buy.

 

[Lumpy]

- Good grafix like in G3, fine. Spellbound can do them at acceptable frame rates, too (check Desperados 2 for that)

- Chapters - Yesssss! Never knew why those stupid guys from PB left it out of G3

- Cross-Console - Perfect! The Gothic control system was MADE for Joypads, so maybe maybe we'll get a fine inventory management and control system THIS time around.

- RPG elements - Fine! There is a slight chance that this action adventure will become a proper RPG in round 4.

I'm pleased with all I hear about Gothic 4. I will buy this one on release day, while the next PB atrocity will be an ebay buy.

Are you stupid or something?
Their announcement was basically: "The story will be like the past games, but better, the interface will be better, the skills will be better, the graphics will be better", and so on. You have to be retarded to actually believe any of that without further proof.
At least Bethesda lied about Oblivion to make it look better. These guys don't even give a fake example, and yet you take their word for granted. Okay...

 

[Vault Dweller]

Sir_Brennus isn't known for his flawless reasoning abilities.

 

[Sir_Brennus]

Sir_Brennus isn't known for his flawless reasoning abilities.

Just because I don't always think like the Hive Mind does?

Fact is: Most codexers trust PB beyond any reason. I don't trust them, because they NEVER delivered, in my opinion.

I trust Spellbound, because they *KNOW* what went wrong with the franchise. PB never were able to analyze that.

BTW: just reread my post. The points are clearly there: Add chapters, improve controls, add skills. What is wrong about that?????

 

[Lumpy]

Sir_Brennus isn't known for his flawless reasoning abilities.

Just because I don't always think like the Hive Mind does?

Fact is: Most codexers trust PB beyond any reason. I don't trust them, because they NEVER delivered, in my opinion.

I trust Spellbound, because they *KNOW* what went wrong with the franchise. PB never were able to analyze that.

BTW: just reread my post. The points are clearly there: Add chapters, improve controls, add skills. What is wrong about that?????

Thanks for answering my question.
I don't care about PB all that much, having only played Gothic 1, but they seem honest guys.
But what does the trust in PB have anything to do with Spellbound's competence?
If PB never delivered, why do you even care about Gothic 4? Were you so charmed by the gameworld, that you sobbed every night for the incompetent treatment of that gameworld by Pirahna Bytes?
"I trust Spellbound, because they *KNOW* what went wrong with the franchise. PB never were able to analyze that."
That statement is utterly retarded. What you're saying is that in ALL cases, a different developer should make a sequel, because he is better able to analyze the previous game than the original devs. And for what reason do you trust that Spellbound will be able to deliver? Besides the analyzation ability of previous Gothics, which any other developer would have - except for PB, apparently.

On the other hand, I agree, Spellbound do indeed have a good plan: Improve every feature. What's not to love about that?

 

[Sir_Brennus]

If PB never delivered, why do you even care about Gothic 4? Were you so charmed by the gameworld, that you sobbed every night for the incompetent treatment of that gameworld by Pirahna Bytes?

Actually, I did. I *wanted* to like that franchise. I tried and played, and tried and played... but to no avail.

They made decisions I can't comprehend: Why remove the chapters in 3? Why increase the gameworld so much and reduce the story to something next to nothing? Why use a such a retarded factions standing system? They overhault the controls and make them different, but nearly as bad as before?

PB have a track record that is widely ignored: In contrast to many codexers I still don't know what to think about NotR. The orginal game seems to be so much more complete with the add-on, but why increase the difficulty so much, that it borders on insane?

I read a nice article in a german magazine about the JoWood/PB feud two months ago, where PB where described as self absorbed, idiosyncratic and immune to advice (while JoWood is greedy, cluelass and volatile). They pardoned for G3, but don't admit that they bit more than they could chew. They don't even recognise the mistakes they made, but just put the blame on JoWood (who are a bad publisher, w/o doubt).

So, Spellbound at least put the fingers on the sore spots and promise to deliver. Will they deliver?

I seriously don't know, but I give them the most hated thing of the codex: The benefit of the doubt.

 

[deuxhero]

Just remember, at least it's not Bethesda *shudders at the thought of it*

 

[Lumpy]

Why remove the chapters? Because chapters are stupid, pointless and make linearity stand out and announce itself.
Why put them back in?
And what was retarded about the faction system? Haven't played the game.

 

[Vault Dweller]

Just because I don't always think like the Hive Mind does?

What is this Hive Mind you speak of? I like BioShock, some people don't. Some people think that the Gothic series (or at least the first two games) are the best thing since sliced bread, well, I don't. And so on, and so on.

Fact is: Most codexers trust PB beyond any reason. I don't trust them, because they NEVER delivered, in my opinion.

Facts are something that can be easily proven and verified. What you are trying to say is "for some reasons, unknown even to me, I'm under the impression that everyone here is a PB mindless fanboy. Except for me, of course, because I'm so radical".

Purely out of curiosity, never delivered what?

I trust Spellbound, because they *KNOW* what went wrong with the franchise.

Really? Says who?

PB never were able to analyze that.

They stated several times mistakes they made with Gothic 3 and their disappointment with how the game turned out.

Here is one of the links:
http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/sh ... ost2562487

BTW: just reread my post. The points are clearly there: Add chapters, improve controls, add skills. What is wrong about that?????

These are meaningless words, nothing else. Stating that G4 is a "day one" purchase based on that is silly, to say the least.

 

[MetalCraze]

Gothic4 is for consoles. It means it will be a dumb silly action-rpg by a studio that has nothing to do with previous titles of that series.

And again - it's for consoles. But I somewhat disappointed by that that the game is not in making by Bethesda. It would be ironic However I feel it will be bethesda'ed.

 

[sabishii]

I swear, next person to act as if there is a "Codex hivemind" should be Dumbfucked.

 

[Lumpy]

Bethesda would probably do better than Spellbound.

 

[MetalCraze]

Bethesda would probably do better than Spellbound.

No, that won't be interesting - as it will stop fanboy ranting about who's series is better and in a very harsh way

 

[VonVentrue]

It is a good thing that Gothic 3 pretty much concluded the Nameless Hero's story (not necessarily as I had hoped, but still)... Which means I couldn't care less about this game.

Xbox360? PS3? No, thank you.

 

[SimpleComplexity]

Spellbound isn`t that bad, at least in the strategy sneaking games, there is this one called Robin Hood: The Legend of Sherwood, i only played the demo, but the game was pretty cool, from what my memory tells me.

 

[Texas Red]

Gothic4 is for consoles. It means it will be a dumb silly action-rpg by a studio that has nothing to do with previous titles of that series.

And again - it's for consoles. But I somewhat disappointed by that that the game is not in making by Bethesda. It would be ironic However I feel it will be bethesda'ed.

So what if its for the consoles and developed by a different company? Its the *soul* of the series thats important. Havent you learned anything from the spiritual leader, founder of Oblivionism Todd Howard?

 

[Lumpy]

"One of the most beloved features of the original Gothic game was the Magic Barrier. Thus, we are planning to include a powerful magic weapon in the game: the Magic Barrier Catapult, also called the "obese console player", which will trap the enemy in a small Magic Barrier."
Source: www.ign.com

 

[Crichton]

Spellbound isn`t that bad, at least in the strategy sneaking games, there is this one called Robin Hood: The Legend of Sherwood, i only played the demo, but the game was pretty cool, from what my memory tells me.

I got that game in the "Fantasy Six Pack" with Prince of Qin and Disciples II. It seems to be the gameplay from commandos with a few shitty action elements and no atmosphere. I didn't get that far. If you enjoyed it would you be interested in buying it?

 

[Kraszu]

I seriously don't know, but I give them the most hated thing of the codex: The benefit of the doubt.

Fact is: Most codexers trust PB beyond any reason. I don't trust them, because they NEVER delivered, in my opinion.

Flip-flop

 

[denizsi]

Just because I don't always think like the Hive Mind does?

It takes a special kind of person to believe in some Hive mind even after being around for more than a year. For insisting on this alone, one deserves to be dumbfucked.

Fact is: Most codexers trust PB beyond any reason.

Beyond any reason? Most codexers? You're pushing it.

I trust Spellbound, because they *KNOW* what went wrong with the franchise.

They do? Really? Since you seem to know so well what Spellbound knows, share with us what has gone wrong with the franchise, which was never right in the first place according to you ("I don't trust them, because they NEVER delivered, in my opinion.). I imagine that your answer would be "they said they know what went wrong".

PB never were able to analyze that.

They pardoned for G3, but don't admit that they bit more than they could chew. They don't even recognise the mistakes they made, but just put the blame on JoWood (who are a bad publisher, w/o doubt).

I've thought that shortly after the release of G3, PB came out to confess what they did wrong, doing a nice self-critic, and I don't think that I remember incorrectly.

BTW: just reread my post. The points are clearly there: Add chapters, improve controls, add skills. What is wrong about that?????

Bush has promised to bring democracy, peace and justice to Iraq. He has kept to his word, can you smell it?

Purely out of curiosity, never delivered what?

You don't deliver something. It's the usage, as in "The new X album delivers!" or "the long awaited sequel to Y failed to deliver"; no object in the sentence, only the subject.

 

[doctor_kaz]

This is the one series that I don't really mind getting ported to consoles, since the first two games almost felt like they were already being made for consoles. I thought that they made major improvements to the interface for the third game though. They just made the world too damn big and then they made too much generic content to fill it with.

 

[Bradylama]

Playing Gothic 3 felt like contracting consoleitis anyways.