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Grimoire gameplay and hints thread

JarlFrank

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
What do I have to say to the gaoler in jail in order to be released? I found an old sheet of paper saying that prisoners can apply to fight in the arena, but I tried saying "arena", "fight", "tournament", etc and nothing seems to work.
 

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How does hth combat work? I've got an unarmed vamphyre and I select bite but when I start combat it just passes over their turn every time.
 

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Okay, so this is getting awkward. I've been wandering around Nerukruel pyramid and have gotten through the path of the elders, though I can't beat Grendel due to antimagic making half my party useless and only one enchanted weapon that can harm it, so I guess there must be something else I can do before fighting it. Detect item reveals there's a key behind a locked door at the ziggurat apex but I've scoured the other floors and haven't found a way to open it. Also part of the path of the elders area is behind a locked door with no key. I found a ring pouch in the path of the elders but I have no idea what to do with it. Any help?
That door is opened after defeating Grendel. I tried everything in that dungeon and I idn't find anything to help me, I had to restart from a save almost 10 hours ago, sadly. You are not supposed to go to this place this soon, you need an arsenal of magical weapon or strong character to kill him.
Yeah I'm still stuck in there after killing Grendel. I visited the old Rhattu carver again but he just attacked me and didn't drop anything useful, and I still haven't found a way to access the top of the pyramid so I'll probably end up reloading
 

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[developer] 8 Aug @ 10:22pm

Originally posted by glenn3e:
Seems like anyone can get any spell as long as you have enough Scribe or Read Magic with the appropriate tome.

The spell has to be in their spellbook and they have to have sufficient scribe skill. This makes spellbooks very valuable when they are found.

Is this true? I thought anyone could learn any spell no matter if it belongs in the class list or not (bug?)
 

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[developer] 8 Aug @ 10:22pm

Originally posted by glenn3e:
Seems like anyone can get any spell as long as you have enough Scribe or Read Magic with the appropriate tome.

The spell has to be in their spellbook and they have to have sufficient scribe skill. This makes spellbooks very valuable when they are found.

Is this true? I thought anyone could learn any spell no matter if it belongs in the class list or not (bug?)

In all previous versions, you could only scribe books from your class' spelllist. Free for all wasn't on the table. So either bug or a last-minute and highly questionable design change.
 

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Poisoned Dagger WOW!!

Just found it in Briarpatch Woods (starting a NG), where you LOOK at the dead party's and find Bone Dagger. That treasure is partly randomized! 2D4 Poison Dagger, woohooo, my Barrower Jester loves it!! Imagine the amazing BackStabbings with this baby!

You started a new game and already have a jester?
Well, you know..!
Cleve gave the Jester special in-game code for determining his bonuses at character creation!! So that character works different form all the other, code-wise, when generated. Very high stats. At zero skills, only a small value [IIRC] in one skill. Has all weapon type skills, all martial abilities by default, ninjutsu, lethal blow, iron hand, Music, Trickery, Robbery, lockpicking etc...

At least I can be a member of a select small group testing a truly amazing Jester from the start.

The tip was from this thread that Barrowers regenerate fastest and all non-mage classes get spells. I was thinking, will a Jester get spells? Then WYTH not should he regenerate fast? Then started a Barrower Jester, named him Hisoka - there is a real jester in the amazing anime series Hunter x Hunter [top ratings] - and gave him the jester portrait.
 

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[developer] 8 Aug @ 10:22pm

Originally posted by glenn3e:
Seems like anyone can get any spell as long as you have enough Scribe or Read Magic with the appropriate tome.

The spell has to be in their spellbook and they have to have sufficient scribe skill. This makes spellbooks very valuable when they are found.

Is this true? I thought anyone could learn any spell no matter if it belongs in the class list or not (bug?)
Confirmed!
Umm.. at lower levels, he might have meant only caster classes: sage, necro, thau, wiz, cleric, latter can learn "wizard" spells too.
 

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Okay, so this is getting awkward. I've been wandering around Nerukruel pyramid and have gotten through the path of the elders, though I can't beat Grendel due to antimagic making half my party useless and only one enchanted weapon that can harm it, so I guess there must be something else I can do before fighting it. Detect item reveals there's a key behind a locked door at the ziggurat apex but I've scoured the other floors and haven't found a way to open it. Also part of the path of the elders area is behind a locked door with no key. I found a ring pouch in the path of the elders but I have no idea what to do with it. Any help?
That door is opened after defeating Grendel. I tried everything in that dungeon and I idn't find anything to help me, I had to restart from a save almost 10 hours ago, sadly. You are not supposed to go to this place this soon, you need an arsenal of magical weapon or strong character to kill him.
Yeah I'm still stuck in there after killing Grendel. I visited the old Rhattu carver again but he just attacked me and didn't drop anything useful, and I still haven't found a way to access the top of the pyramid so I'll probably end up reloading
If you killed him, go to that level where you had to sacrifice your soul. There is two ladder near each other, going up is to the top of pyramid. Grendel doesn't drop anything, is a item where he is(hiding behind secret wall, imo) you want.
 

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Eerie Wastes is the best atmospheric place to begin in. Truly felt like the movie ALIENS. Imagine if Cleve asked one artist to put an Alien monster into Eerie Wastes. :)
Even better than the Imprisoned beginning, which gives lots of cool beginner equipment.
 

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Okay, so this is getting awkward. I've been wandering around Nerukruel pyramid and have gotten through the path of the elders, though I can't beat Grendel due to antimagic making half my party useless and only one enchanted weapon that can harm it, so I guess there must be something else I can do before fighting it. Detect item reveals there's a key behind a locked door at the ziggurat apex but I've scoured the other floors and haven't found a way to open it. Also part of the path of the elders area is behind a locked door with no key. I found a ring pouch in the path of the elders but I have no idea what to do with it. Any help?
That door is opened after defeating Grendel. I tried everything in that dungeon and I idn't find anything to help me, I had to restart from a save almost 10 hours ago, sadly. You are not supposed to go to this place this soon, you need an arsenal of magical weapon or strong character to kill him.
Yeah I'm still stuck in there after killing Grendel. I visited the old Rhattu carver again but he just attacked me and didn't drop anything useful, and I still haven't found a way to access the top of the pyramid so I'll probably end up reloading
If you killed him, go to that level where you had to sacrifice your soul. There is two ladder near each other, going up is to the top of pyramid. Grendel doesn't drop anything, is a item where he is(hiding behind secret wall, imo) you want.
The copper mesh thingy? I haven't really found anything to use it with. At the top level I used Detect Item to locate a key behind a closed door but I dont' know how to get to it
 

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[developer] 8 Aug @ 10:22pm

Originally posted by glenn3e:
Seems like anyone can get any spell as long as you have enough Scribe or Read Magic with the appropriate tome.

The spell has to be in their spellbook and they have to have sufficient scribe skill. This makes spellbooks very valuable when they are found.

Is this true? I thought anyone could learn any spell no matter if it belongs in the class list or not (bug?)
yes, BUT there are only few spell books (most of them are utility books), so not really.
 

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Using the max level of Locate Item makes you see the whole map to the point it keeps save on your map. Thus you can pass a lot of place by knowing the map first(best used in dark places).
 

Rpguy

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Are drows useless because of the mana regen issue or do they actually get special items that makes up for it? (like it says on character creation)

they are no Drow only items.

Not that I doubt you, I found no evidence to the contrary, ( except the drow creation screen says so ) but how do you know for sure? did you find all items? also do you have any knowledge of good items for other specific races?
 

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Viata , Lady Error

You two seems far into the game, Did you find any "special drow only items" that are mentioned on character creation? any other specific race items?
None so far.

I found a crusader shield that is probably exclusive to the Paladin class since my warrior, berserk and ranger couldn't use it.

You probably mean Templar? didn't you fully identify it and looked at the letters that say which class/race can use it?
 

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So does anyone know if there's a way to deal with Elias Conachur that doesn't involve killing him or stealing his ring?

Also, where do I encounter him a second time? First time I encountered him I was in his hut and he confronted me when I left, when I go in there again he's nowhere to be seen.

Sam thing happened to me -- I opted to kill Lt. Shrike and go from there. He drops about ~8 items

What do I have to say to the gaoler in jail in order to be released? I found an old sheet of paper saying that prisoners can apply to fight in the arena, but I tried saying "arena", "fight", "tournament", etc and nothing seems to work.

"volunteer" -- then "arena"
 

Haru

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Viata Haba

Where is the Kublai Cathedral located? I can't find it in the city.

Haba, can you open the doors in Kublai that you need to lockpick? For me and Viata they are broken, probably a bug.

Also, did either of you figure out how to free the NPC Dragon in the zoo?

When killing Shrike -- he drops keys that lead underground. I've found different ladders that lead inside those doors (don't know if it was all the doors, though).
 

Silentsigil

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Has anyone found the way into Skulheim, past the Knossos webs, Aurora tablet, or Bahomet pits?

I'm fairly certain that:
- The Skulheim keeper is dropping a textbox,
- The runestone in the SW corner of Knossos tower is pulling the wrong text and trigger info.
-There's a youtube video of Cleve giving Lysandra the tablet to summon the chariots. That isn't how it works now;
so if she is supposed to have the tablet on her and give it to you, she doesn't have a trigger to do so when raising the chariot.
-and-- I think he just used the wrong pit copy paste in Bahomet. 3rd coil is either supposed to be pitfalls and not death pits or the well outside is supposed to lead somewhere and doesn't.

If you can get inside skulheim by *methods* it works properly, Arachne is there, the missions that lead there work out, but you're still dead ended. The area unlocked by completion here is eerily empty and seemingly unfinished.
 
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