Hired Guns: The Jagged Edge

[thekdawg21]

Is this game anything like the greatness of Jagged Alliance at all?

It seems to be a clone of some sort, but does it hold a candle to the original?

 

[MetalCraze]

http://www.rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=29406

 

[JarlFrank]

Supposed to be shit.

 

[thekdawg21]

Thanks for the referral to the other post. Only one person says WHY it's trash and those seem to be UI flaws rather than engine or mechanical flaws. Might still be decent, if it's patched up or modded?

 

[NiM82]

With a lot more development/thought, it could've been ok, but it's incomplete trash as it is. The lack of a fucking % to hit indicator is unforgivable and makes combat feel completely random. The path finding/cover is also hugely flawed, as is the fatigue system. It's basically massively frustrating, with no reward for perseverance. I removed it from TPB's inventory and I still felt ripped off.

Can't see any fan fixes or patches sorting it, the problems are just too great.

 

[Jinxed]

I played HG for quite a while before patching and modding and after and I can safely say the game is poor, but still somewhat enjoyable. Before patching it suffers from horrible camera glitches and other bugs but none quite as annoying and stomach turning as the whole grenade problem. The AI will rather throw a grenade than anything else with deadly accuracy. I never had as many reloads as with this game, it literally was load, dead load dead, load, dead etc. Even in 1v1 situations the AI will throw a grenade at your feet, sometimes at incredible distances. You got poor graphics, horrible voice acting and literally dead gameworld to boot. Albeit it being quite big and there are 4 or so paths you can take, it still seems quite empty. Its funny how every map seems to have 1 lootable box among 50 and NPCs if talkable, wouldnt really be of much interest or depth.

The patch seems to solve some of these problems, the camera is no longer a problem, they claim to have fixed the grenades, which is a lie and the game doesn't crash anymore. To make it more playable I suggest a couple of mods on top of the patch

Hired Guns Reinforced Adds a good number of weapons, using skins that were made by the developers but never used, as wells as gun attachements and other things

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1986518

DJ's Grenades Mod It fixes the grenades problem for good.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1983497

DJ's Shop Mod Gives you all the weapons from the start and changes starting funds, you can also only use one of these options.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1974752

I suggest you poke around the forum and read the hints and tips section too, this game is not very easy.

If I was asked why I played the game if its so horrible the answer is simple. I got bored of JA2 after playing it a zillion times with various mods. There is just so much I can play a game.

 

[Gnidrologist]

Year or so ago i played some leaked unfinished version. Although it was clearly trying to mimicre JA2 somehow it just didn't click. Kinda sterile envirovement and shitty gun behavior. Also boring uninspired characters and bland locations. UI was the least of concerns.

 

[MetalCraze]

Actually the only very successful (and a very sucking) "tactics" was to stuff AI with grenades in return.
I remember that even when developers were presenting their game they were raped by grenades pretty hard and the only way they were able to win is by throwing the grenades at AI too.
It is awesome how they never tried to fix their kewl game.

 

[Higher Game]

Jagged Alliance 2 > anything else. There are tons of great JA2 mods out there too.