Vaarna_Aarne said:
What the fuck have you been smoking, comparing FO1 & 2s tactical options to those of UFO games?
zeitgeist said:
That is a very silly thing to say. XCOM is superior in pretty much every aspect - squad equipment loadouts, character skill customization, tactical use of (destructible) terrain, the variety of enemies and their abilities, and so on.
Not really, taking into account the differences in genre. Equipment in X-Com was limited to two rifles, a rocket launcher and the Psi-Amp. Anything beyond these weapons was a waste of time for me. I never used grenades in either game (except in Fallout 2 because of that bot guarding the abandoned cache in the Toxic Caves). At least Fallout had a good range of weapons and had a better auto fire mode.
Character skill customization in X-Com means shooting a lot and running around to build stamina. Throwing specialization is available in both games.
Destructible terrain was a plus in X-Com, I'll grant that. However, in Fallout cover was not an issue, nor hunting for the last enemy around the fucking map (well, except maybe for the Redding mine). Most fights took place in the open, with your party being gangbanged by enemies.
The variety of enemies was wasted in X-Com. Except for the Chryssalid, the rest were pretty bland. Most terror animals were no threat and failed to even reach my soldiers. The Ethereals were no match for Heavy Plasma and, later, your soldiers were even better at that Psi thing than the Ethereals themselves.
X-Com has a fully controllable squad, Fallout has a bunch of melee weapons (not just a blade with two upgrades). X-Com soldiers can kneel, in Fallout you can attach a scope or laser range finder to your FN FAL.
In Fallout, at least, controlling your party and facing a wave of enemy is a challenge. X-Com combat devolves into hunting aliens one by one, because they never coordinate their attacks. And Fallout can still be challenging even in late game. Having Advanced Power Armor and the best weapons on all your characters doesn't mean you can't get raped by Enclave patrols around Navarro.