Atlus Index Holdings (ATLUS) going bancrupt

[Hobo Elf]

Sega, you're our only hope!

 

[DragoFireheart]

Come on Sega, you can do it!

 

[mck]

Sega, I just want to tell you good luck. We're all counting on you.

 

[MasterSmithFandango]

Sega, I just want to tell you good luck. We're all counting on you.

Nice reference.

 

[Fat Dragon]

Yeah, because Sega has proven itself to be such a reliable publisher, especially with its niche Japanese games.

Also, it's not Sega whose bidding, it's Sega Sammy Holdings, Sega's parent company. They make most of their money from pachinko gambling machines. Who knows what they'd do if they got Atlus.

 

[DragoFireheart]

Yeah, because Sega has proven itself to be such a reliable publisher, especially with its niche Japanese games.

Also, it's not Sega whose bidding, it's Sega Sammy Holdings, Sega's parent company. They make most of their money from pachinko gambling machines. Who knows what they'd do if they got Atlus.

The alternative is Goldman Sachs.

I'll take a gambling company over a evil corporate one.

 

[Fat Dragon]

Yeah, because Sega has proven itself to be such a reliable publisher, especially with its niche Japanese games.

Also, it's not Sega whose bidding, it's Sega Sammy Holdings, Sega's parent company. They make most of their money from pachinko gambling machines. Who knows what they'd do if they got Atlus.

The alternative is Goldman Sachs.

I'll take a gambling company over a evil corporate one.

No, the alternative is Goldman Sachs and about 18 other unnamed bidders. And I doubt a single one of them will be good for Atlus, not for their ips and not for their US publishing division. Regardless of who wins, we most likely lose.

 

[DragoFireheart]

No, the alternative is Goldman Sachs and about 18 other unnamed bidders. And I doubt a single one of them will be good for Atlus, not for their ips and not for their US publishing division. Regardless of who wins, we most likely lose.

At least Sega attempts to make video games. What do the rest do, kill babies and steal money?

 

[Fat Dragon]

No, the alternative is Goldman Sachs and about 18 other unnamed bidders. And I doubt a single one of them will be good for Atlus, not for their ips and not for their US publishing division. Regardless of who wins, we most likely lose.

At least Sega attempts to make video games. What do the rest do, kill babies and steal money?

Well, I don't know what the rest do because only one other bidder besides Sega Sammy has been named.

And again, not Sega whose bidding, it's their parent company. They could give Atlus ips to Sega but would they do anything good with them, or would they just sit on them for years doing fuck all like they've done with the majority of their Japanese ips? And if they did do something with them, would they rehire the original developers? Would they even release it outside Japan? More likely it would just get torn down with a series a mediocre-to-utter shit games like what happened with Sonic, Phantasy Star and Shining.

And that's assuming the parent company doesn't just turn Atlus into a phone game company and continue to whore out their ips with casual crap, much like Index had already started doing with the Persona series. Or even worse, make a series of Megaten-themed pachinko machines.

 

[DragoFireheart]

Well, I don't know what the rest do because only one other bidder besides Sega Sammy has been named.

And again, not Sega whose bidding, it's their parent company. They could give Atlus ips to Sega but would they do anything good with them, or would they just sit on them for years doing fuck all like they've done with the majority of their Japanese ips? And if they did do something with them, would they rehire the original developers? Would they even release it outside Japan? More likely it would just get torn down with a series a mediocre-to-utter shit games like what happened with Sonic, Phantasy Star and Shining.

And that's assuming the parent company doesn't just turn Atlus into a phone game company and continue to whore out their ips with casual crap, much like Index had already started doing with the Persona series. Or even worse, make a series of Megaten-themed pachinko machines.

I'll agree to disagree. I think it's too early to call Atlus dead.

 

[Fat Dragon]

Well, I don't know what the rest do because only one other bidder besides Sega Sammy has been named.

And again, not Sega whose bidding, it's their parent company. They could give Atlus ips to Sega but would they do anything good with them, or would they just sit on them for years doing fuck all like they've done with the majority of their Japanese ips? And if they did do something with them, would they rehire the original developers? Would they even release it outside Japan? More likely it would just get torn down with a series a mediocre-to-utter shit games like what happened with Sonic, Phantasy Star and Shining.

And that's assuming the parent company doesn't just turn Atlus into a phone game company and continue to whore out their ips with casual crap, much like Index had already started doing with the Persona series. Or even worse, make a series of Megaten-themed pachinko machines.

I'll agree to disagree. I think it's too early to call Atlus dead.

Fair enough. Not trying to be a doom-sayer here, but I'm just having trouble seeing Atlus coming out of this ok. Would love to be proved wrong on it though, Atlus has always been one of Japan's best.

 

[The Last Blackguard]

What, exactly, is Goldman Sachs? I gathered that they're a financial institution, and that one of their execs apparently raped someone, but I can't see Atlus being bought by a company owned 5% by them in danger of negatively affecting them.

I could totally see that from Sega though.

 

[Higher Animal]

Sega ownership would be best. Atlus characters would appear in new editions of Sonic Racing but new editions of Persona would be made for good consoles and the PC.

 

[The Last Blackguard]

See:
What Sega did to the Valkyria Chronicles series.
What Sega did to the Yakuza series.
What Sega did to the Bayonetta series.
What Sega failed to do to the Sonic the Hedgehog series.

 

[deuxhero]

See:
What Sega did to the Valkyria Chronicles series.
What Sega did to the Yakuza series.
What Sega did to the Bayonetta series.
What Sega failed to do to the Sonic the Hedgehog series.

What Sega of Japan did to Sega of America
What Sega of America did to Sega of Japan

 

[deuxhero]

http://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXNASDD1801E_Y3A910C1000000/

No idea if article is legit and my Japanese is pretty shitty, but I think it says Sega-Sammy bought them.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

http://www.shacknews.com/article/81178/sega-purchases-atlus-parent-company-index-for-141-million

Excellent.

Now official: http://www.segasammy.co.jp/english/pdf/release/20130918_index_e_final.pdf

 

[Crooked Bee]

So I guess this isn't the worst possible news. We'll see.

 

[DragoFireheart]

Let's hope now that Sega doesn't fuck this up.

 

[Ermm]

What, exactly, is Goldman Sachs?

Jewish Death Star in disguise.

But seriously, what would jews want from Atlus?

 

[felipepepe]

Let's hope now that Sega doesn't fuck this up.

AND does PC ports of their entire back catalog. :D

 

[Fat Dragon]

If Sega is smart they'll keep Atlus US around to localize and publish their Japanese games. Probably one of the best localization teams around and with a great reputation, they'd be crazy to shut it down and let its talent get picked up by crap like XSEED or NIS America.

 

[Caim]

Well, that's a relief. More beloved franchises should be bought free from their (morally) bankrupt owners and given to people who actually make games with them.

Incidentally, does anyone have a guess at the net worth of the Megaman franchise?

 

[evdk]

Well, that's a relief. More beloved franchises should be bought free from their (morally) bankrupt owners and given to people who actually make games with them.

What does this have to do with what has happened?

 

[Morality Games]

Well, that was a tense moment, I'm not going to lie.