KotOR 2 is one of the best games ever made

[OSK]

Well, fortunately some people play RPGs for things other than combat.

No shit Captain Obvious. Got anymore pearls of wisdom for us you stupid fuck?

No, I'll leave the pearls of wisdom to you:

Indeed. With the ending restored, it could be even better.

The combat will still be crap.

 

[Darth Roxor]

On a side note, guys from Obsidian need to learn maths.

In the sith tomb on Dxun, there are these two puzzle-locked containers. One of the puzzles is to complete a mathematic equation:

(6 _ 2) _ 8 _ 9 _ 1 = 13

so I do (6x2)-8+9/1

WRONG

like, what the hell.

the proper answer is (6x2)-8+9x1...
Because we all know that dividing by 1 is totally not the same thing as multiplying by 1.


Also, I don't get what's so 'bad' about the ending, and please don't tell me it's because all the answers are not handed to you on a plate, because I'm gonna rampage.

 

[MetalCraze]

the writing and roleplaying design of KotOR2 are infinitely superior than in most of all (roleplaying) games that came out since its release (and some years before).
if only all other parts of the game were on a par.
damn I want to play this game again, but knowing how much cut content are there and that TSLRP is still not ready I can't.

 

[Jasede]

Read this instead: http://fromearth.net/LetsPlay/KOTOR%202/

Thank me later.

 

[Balor]

Yea, that's really revealing stuff. Read it all, found out a lot, even after what I thought a complete playthough.

Anyway, just like Scorchy said:

"In fact, the quality of the writing in this game makes me think of this game as Planescape Torment Part II.

Having basically the same plot helps too."

He-he.
It may not be one of the best games ever made (cause 'game' is just a sum of it's parts, and some parts of it sure stink), but when it comes to story, dialogues and NPCs (Kreia!!1one) - it IS PS:T level allright.
Now, if they were given just a few more month to complete and polish the game - it would sure be an undisputed new classic.
I stilll think that it IS classic, but it's sure disputed however .

 

[Volourn]

"the writing and roleplaying design of KotOR2"

Meh. Middle of the road. Just like KOTOR1. Same shit, same smell, different pile of poo.

The fact that you can' stuck with an evil witch even though it was obvious she was up to no good handcuffs good role-playing. Pathetic.

 

[Comrade Hamster]

Sadly, it's going to be a fucking MMORPG. Obsidian should have made KOTOR 3.

Proof. Naow.

 

[Jasede]

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs. ... ills-beans

 

[Volourn]

Not proof.

 

[Jasede]

True enough; but it's discouraging still.

 

[Dark Matter]

One of the best games ever made? Nah. But certainly one of the best RPGs in the last 10 years.

 

[Volourn]

Yeah. Top 20 for sure.

 

[ghostdog]

Thanks TWD , yet another thread where Jasede and Skyway can express their emo-love for KOTOR2 and VO can spam away with his usual retardness. Deja-fucking-VU.

Anyway this is the wrong forum gotdammit ! Kotor 2 isn't an RPG , it's an adventure game. Ask anyone. Ask Binary.

 

[Jaime Lannister]

Thanks TWD , yet another thread where Jasede and Skyway can express their emo-love for KOTOR2 and VO can spam away with his usual retardness. Deja-fucking-VU.

Anyway this is the wrong forum gotdammit ! Kotor 2 isn't an RPG , it's an adventure game. Ask anyone. Ask Binary.

I played KOTOR 2 on the Xbox and before KOTOR 1.

The above sentence was about as useful as your entire post.

 

[ghostdog]

Thanks Jaime, I strive to be as useful as this thread.

 

[fastpunk]

KotOR2 is a weird case and all the cut content doesn't help its cause. From a gaming point of view it isn't too good but when it comes to writing it's almost up there with PS:T. And most of that goodness is concentrated in one NPC: Kreia. Even some of the other interesting NPCs, like Atris or Sion or Atton are made interesting because of Kreia and their relationship with her, whatever it may be. She's the black widow spider of the game, weaving her web and luring everyone in it. That's basically why I consider this a weird game, KotOR2 would be a lot less without Kreia.

Meh. Middle of the road. Just like KOTOR1. Same shit, same smell, different pile of poo.

The fact that you can' stuck with an evil witch even though it was obvious she was up to no good handcuffs good role-playing. Pathetic.

Yeah, it's almost as pathetic as knowing Desther was up to something no good and not being able to tell anyone.

 

[MetalCraze]

Kreia. an -evil- witch? oh yes sure. moar plz

 

[Wyrmlord]

True enough; but it's discouraging still.

Jasede, all sorts of absurd rumours keep coming up about a KotOR 3 from time to time. I have seen a disparate variety of them in Bioware forums, enough to not take any such rumour seriously. Particularly the KotOR 3 MMO thing.

Once Feargus Urquahart said that Obsidian was interested in making another KotOR 3. People thought that Obsidian was actually making a KotOR 3. And sometimes they still ask, "Is Obsidian done with it?" :D

 

[Volourn]

"Yeah, it's almost as pathetic as knowing Desther was up to something no good and not being able to tell anyone."

Except I've never seen anyone actually defend that. I *have* seen people defend Kreia being a forced party member despite the obviousness of her scummy evilness.

 

[The Feral Kid]

I *have* seen people defend Kreia being a forced party member despite the obviousness of her scummy evilness.

Volourn doesn't differ from those who wanted to burn Galileo at the stake. He lives in a black and white world. And words like subtlety, ambiguity or depth are unknown to him as he believes everything is flat (probably the earth too).

 

[Balor]

Well, Kreia IS an evil witch by Judeo-Christian conventions. Question is, how bad is it.

She very Pratchett-like, btw. Walking fine line between Light and Dark, living by wits and sheer force of will, bowing down to noone.

Oh, and she is not really forced. You don't have to have her in the party during the most of the game... but that's simply crippling yourself.
I can clearly see how people who didn't like Kreia and her 'force sucks!' crusade would consider KOTOR II an average game at best.

 

[Volourn]

Kreia wasn't subtle. Not even close. She was opposite of subtle. Her evilness, and scumminess, and hatred of The Force was right in your face with absolutely no finesse. Don't get me wrong, Kreia is not a bad character. In fact, she is agood character; but she's not a godsend.

And, at least Desther wans't in your party. Kreia was forced into your party. And, you better believe I avoided having her in my 'away team'. Ugly crone bitch with her bullshit.

She blabbed on and on, and all she really said was: "I am right. Youa re wrong. Force is evil. Yadda, yadda, yadda." *yawn*

 

[MetalCraze]

Volly bet you think Ravel is bad too

 

[inwoker]

Volourn's tag became deprecated, what's your ideas?

 

[Volourn]

Eh? I loved Ravel. Next lame try, please. You are a moron who thinks he knows all yet knows nothing at all. R00fles!