[LP CYOA] Spiral

[treave]

What if he just doesn't like us?

He's just tsundere for his literal soul-mate.

 

[Nevill]

Well, did you really hear him speaking to you through your mind before?

Well, how do you call it, then? Impressions? Imprints? Body memory? Sometimes we hear someone's voice that fits his personality and is relevant to the situation we are in. No two-sided communication takes place, though.

*sigh*. I guess we will have to continue relying on Uehara to find out about him.

What if he just doesn't like us?

Too bad, he is stuck with us and divorce is not an option.

He's just tsundere for his literal soul-mate.

It's more of a soul squatting, actually.

 

[Baltika9]

Too bad, he is stuck with us and divorce is not an option.

He's just tsundere for his literal soul-mate.

He caught us staring at and thinking about all these women and got jealous. We're having a lover's spat.
It all makes sense now.

 

[treave]

Well, how do you call it, then? Impressions? Imprints? Body memory? We hear someone's voice that fit his personality and was relevant to the situation we were in. No two-sided communication took place, though.

Something along those lines. There is no conscious communication barring when he's out and about, and in nominal control.

*sigh*. I guess we will have to continue relying on Uehara to find out about him.

Uehara knows nothing much about him besides that he was her sister's boyfriend and possibly involved in her disappearance. Kayano would know more than her.

 

[Nevill]

Well, when we next stop for a shut-eye we should give him a pen and a paper sheet to write us a short autobiography.

Of course, he will then use the paper to slit the throats of those he thinks might interfere with his plans, and jab the pen down the ears of those who would object.



Seriously, though, I can't make anything concrete about him. He does not seem like a bad guy, and Uehara's words about perverting the energies of this place are likely mistaken (this place was a Nazi research facility where they tortured children, you don't have to warp anything after that - and how come she holds us responsible for 'everyone' who died here, including the ones that did before we were born?), but he has that unhinged air about him where I feel like he would murder his own mother to get what he wants.

Uehara knows nothing much about him besides that he was her sister's boyfriend and possibly involved in her disappearance. Kayano would know more than her.

Well, for starters, she claims to have 'proof' of our guilt. What does she base her opinion on?

Second, she knows what we were doing during the rest of the nights and who killed her during the first one. That may or may not be important to piecing Seiji's motivations together.

 

[treave]

Well, for starters, she claims to have 'proof' of our guilt. What does she base her opinion on?

Second, she knows what we were doing during the rest of the nights and who killed her during the first one.

Bear in mind her mental state at the time (which has recovered somewhat since) and that the old man was active in the previous night. He could have used his 10/10 tits, like Kayano did, to 'persuade' her.

 

[Nevill]

Yes, I do think that the old man 'explained' it to her and set her up against us, but a fertile soil for his lies to sprout from was already prepared. She was extremely suspicious of us during the fourth night.

We have a deep misunderstanding with her and it pains me to watch how little we do to clear it. I know she won't take our word for it, but I feel that if we - the ones who preserved their memories - pooled our information together we would be that much more effective as a team.

Why does he trust the word of the old man over ours? What did he do for her, why does she thought of him as an ally? Did it occur to her that just as she thinks we may be lying, so could he lie to her as well? Does she realize that our personality is genuine and not a mask? Does she realize that we only have memories of four nights, and that our personality is consistent through them? Does she realize that an information of who else is in our head with us would be invaluable to us - and potentially, to the team?

There is a lot for us to talk about, even without confirming that we are Seiji - which she seems to be certain of anyway.

She never explained why she came back for us during the pool ghost fight, though.

He could have used his 10/10 tits, like Kayano did, to 'persuade' her.

Hmmm... using 80 years old man-tits as a brain bleach to send the recipient into a trance-like state?

Kayano does have some memory alteration technique that she used on Sawada to forget what he was talking about.

 

[treave]

We have a deep misunderstanding with her and it pains me to watch how little we do to clear it.

Uehara? Meh. Let's talk to Amanozaki again and ask her about stuff we already know!

Though I'll point out that if she still didn't trust you, she'd not have let you out at all. I thought it was pretty clear that Uehara was working things out for herself in the background, ever since the staff room confrontation. Besides, your goals are very clear for once: you have to reach Seika, regardless of whether you want to escape or for some other reason, and to do that, you have to first exorcise the Nurse, and to do that, you have to search for more information about who she was and why she died.

 

[Nevill]

Uehara? Meh. Let's talk to Amanozaki again and ask her about stuff we already know!

That got her on our side, did it not? Since we were the only one who took her seriously and made her important to the team.

She is probably going to take a bit of heat now for failing to protect Murano with her ritual, though.

Didn't feel right to talk to Uehara right after our confrontation - I thought it was better to leave her to her thoughts for a while.

Though I'll point out that if she still didn't trust you, she'd not have let you out at all.

It looked like the decision was forced on her.

Though I appreciate that it was a decision she got to make, instead of us just leaving on our own and having her deal with the fact. Looks like she has made up her mind about giving us a chance... or thinks us useful for a time being.

I thought it was pretty clear that Uehara was working things out for herself in the background, ever since the staff room confrontation.

Yes, she treats us differently, though I have no idea what is going through her head. For all I know, she might still intend to sacrifice us to open the gate the old man promised (probably not).

Besides, your goals are very clear for once: you have to reach Seika, regardless of whether you want to escape or for some other reason

Wait, why do we need to reach Seika?

I know why Seiji wants it, I know why Uehara wants it. But why do we want it? Was it ever confirmed that she is the key to escaping this place? We have already almost left once without reaching her, but the circumstances that opened the portal to our world are not clear, and it might have involved her.

Are we searching for her in absense of better ideas, or do we have a solid theory to back us up?

Not to mention that we might need someone to take her place as an observer if we were to take her with us, lest the world collapses on us, and it better not be the old man.

 

[treave]

Was it ever confirmed that she is the key to escaping this place? We have already almost left once without reaching her, but the circumstances that opened the portal to our world are not clear, and it might have involved her.

It's implied that Uehara reaching her sister with the charms was what allowed that to happen.

Or you could just feed Ei faster so that you get some useful gate spells.

 

[Nevill]

Or you could just feed Ei faster so that you get some useful gate spells.

Is that how we get the Necromancer ending and the Ghoulpocalypse? By opening a gate from the underworld straight to our reality?

 

[Azira]

I'm a bit disappointed not more of you are voting for the DEVOUR SOUL option.

 

[treave]

I'm not entirely sure I prepared an ending where it was possible to escape without something or someone getting fucked one way or another. I'll have to check.

Not to mention that we might need someone to take her place as an observer if we were to take her with us, lest the world collapses on us, and it better not be the old man.

That's what the other twin is for! Lucky she came along.

 

[Nevill]

I'm not entirely sure I prepared an ending where it was possible to escape without something or someone getting fucked one way or another. I'll have to check.

Is the one where that someone is Juuzo among them?

Well, if all else fails, we can always become a god of death ourselves. Maybe even plan an invasion of Earthrealm or something down the line.

That's what the other twin is for! Lucky she came along.

Hey! Leave the Twins alone! We will have our twin harem ending at least in one CYOA!

Really, though, it is the ideal ararrangement - Seiji gets Seika and we get Uehara. It is perfectly logical and I will fight tooth and nail for its inclusion.

Hmmm, I guess we can save everyone by inviting them into our head, OMOIKANE-style, where they would live happily ever after as one big family. Just have to figure out how to dodge being sent to asylum, is all.

 

[Nevill]

A thought occured to me.

If we know a spiritual barrier spell, and we can modify, re-shape and move it at will, can't we make it into a form of a weapon, or encase an existing weapon in it? It would then be able to interact with and harm the ghosts...

Or is it unfeasible for some reason?

 

[treave]

The orderly's ghost was crushed into a little cube by the barrier and yet wasn't defeated until it was exorcised. I don't quite see what clubbing ghosts over the head is supposed to accomplish.

 

[Nevill]

They are able to feel pain. Maybe it can discourage them or something?

It works with predator animals. Sometimes.

Damn it, I guess Nii-san's legacy is of no help here.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

C>A

I think Murano has already shown that he is pretty much a zombie at this point. In fact, I'd hate it if we got bit and had to lop off our hand again...

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

I'm not entirely sure I prepared an ending where it was possible to escape without something or someone getting fucked one way or another. I'll have to check.

Is the one where that someone is Juuzo among them?

Well, if all else fails, we can always become a god of death ourselves. Maybe even plan an invasion of Earthrealm or something down the line.

That's what the other twin is for! Lucky she came along.

Hey! Leave the Twins alone! We will have our twin harem ending at least in one CYOA!

Really, though, it is the ideal ararrangement - Seiji gets Seika and we get Uehara. It is perfectly logical and I will fight tooth and nail for its inclusion.

Hmmm, I guess we can save everyone by inviting them into our head, OMOIKANE-style, where they would live happily ever after as one big family. Just have to figure out how to dodge being sent to asylum, is all.

The clear solution is to become the observer ourselves and then to murder everyone over and over again in new and horrible ways.
...
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Or to become the observer and lead everyone out except out love intrest(s). Happily ever after and all that.

 

[Nevill]

To become a zombie you need to become dead, first.

He is not a spirit, which is what the hospital deals in, and the only zombie we've seen so far was Dr. Usui. He does not look like that.

Also, rereading the fourth night, I found this:

It begins with the tolling of a bell.

Soft and distant, it echoes towards you like a wave, growing and stretching until it sounds like the guttural groaning of some great beast, and then receding before repeating the cycle all over again. A faint chant, reminiscent of those one might hear in ancient rituals, winds its way through the monotonous sound.

[...]

Then, just as suddenly as it began, the chant stops, leaving only a headache-inducing ringing bouncing in your skull.

The lights flicker. Okuyama shrieks. The atmosphere in the room dissolves into chaos. Before you, the cooling corpse of Dr. Usui has seemingly come back to life.

I don't know for sure, but I think we can now safely assume that the chant we've heard was actually a spell. Weren't ghouls under the old man's control?

Murano is probably either possessed (if reversible), or is in the process of being transformed into a spirit. Not sure if it makes him safe to touch or not, but he is not dead dead, so it shouldn't.

 

[Nevill]

Or to become the observer and lead everyone out except out love intrest(s). Happily ever after and all that.

Well, the only 'happy fucked ending' I see is, indeed, to get everyone out and remain here with Maeda, who is already dead and presumably can't leave (just look what a major headache resurrecting a person is).

Adachi gets everyone he cares about out of here. Besides, if as I suspect we didn't exist in the real world in the first place, we may as well stay here. It's not like we have a family waiting for us.
Seiji gets Seika resurrected, but has to pay the price. On the other hand, he receives dominion over the dead (remember what makes one a god?) and denies it to Juuzo, so it's all good.
Maeda gets to stay with her Sei-chan. She chose that over life herself.
The Tendou sisters are reunited.
Mori fucks the Kaimei group over.
Amanozaki becomes Sakaki's partner instead of late Hidetaka and together they produce a scoop of the century.

And somewhere down the line some bloke opens a gateway to our cozy hell and we get to invade Beirut.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

We are all dead already, remember? But yes, "possessed" is my guess. Sort of like what happened to Mori in 4. That's why I said "pretty much" a zombie. We've seen how it works - the dead touch is and their tendrils crawl around inside us. Whether he is save-able or not really depends on if the loop still functions here or not. We may not be in a time loop anymore as the chapters have names now. If we are in one, he can just come back to life later unless we eat his soul. If it no longer functions, he is permanently dead her in this in between space we find ourselves in. He is probably dead as far as the chapter is concerened tho.

Regardless, the curse has spread to his lips, so I really don't want to be bit by him.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Also I am going to leave out the obvious problem of Seika probably not wanting to kill everyone and yet still ripping off our head etc even tho she is the observer... So I'm not sure how happy am ending our "godhood" would make for...

 

[Nevill]

Whether he is save-able or not really depends on if the loop still functions here or not. We may not be in a time loop anymore as the chapters have names now. If we are in one, he can just come back to life later unless we eat his soul. If it no longer functions, he is permanently dead her in this in between space we find ourselves in. He is probably dead as far as the chapter is concerened tho.

I don't think we are in the loop anymore, but the effects of possession can be negated by exorcizing or distracting the spirit, as we've seen with Mori.

Alternatively, destroying the power sourse of Kaimei (by exorcizing the nurse) could undo the harm.

Regardless, the curse has spread to his lips, so I really don't want to be bit by him.

Kissed, you mean? It'd have to spread to the teeth for the bites to become dangerous.

Also I am going to leave out the obvious problem of Seika probably not wanting to kill everyone and yet still ripping off our head etc even tho she is the observer... So I'm not sure how happy am ending our "god good" would make for...

I am sorry, I have no idea what you are trying to say. Do you think the monster in the first chapter was her?

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Betting the teeth are dangerous too we just can't see them because we arent his damn dentist.

Yes, Mori was saved, but I think this is different. This thing clearly has worked its way into his brain to the point to where he disregards pain and can barely put together a sentence. Mori's ghost was an actual entity too. This may just be the corruption from the touch of the dead.

Anyway, I just think that tying him up won't be effective long term as he is persistent and has shown that he has no regard for his own flesh - meaning that he could eventually escape even if it cost him a limb or two. And probably isn't worth the risk of being bit as we have already revealed the book to the others before.

Btw: side note, these tendrils remind me of the gileoth tendrils in epic.

Iphone spellcheck.... I mean if we became the observer. Yes, I do. The one at the end.