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Huh. 2A is not one vote away from tying 2D, and one flop away from leading it. LEt's grab a gun and help out gram-gram. She can then proceed with the original plan, while we help Sophie, if necessary.
You're just going to shoot her by mistake and/or get in her way.

Great job picking the two worst options (besides E, which is silly because Sophie will see them before us).
And Bernard seem to be a just a leopard. A well-trained and impressive leopard
And we're a 10-year-old with a gun we have no idea how to use.

You're also forgetting the magic orb trap Liz is armed with.
 

Absinthe

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And if we're tag-teaming one shifter with gram-gram, and the other is running towards Liz and Bernard, then what are we guarding Sophie against?
The problem is I don't think we're good enough to be a tag team with Tlalli. That's just hubris. Our version of a tag team is Tlalli (the expert) suddenly having a noob teammate insert himself into her fight. We'll just end up making a bigger mess of things.

And Bernard seem to be a just a leopard. A well-trained and impressive leopard, but a leopard nonetheless. Again, the original plan involved Tlalli killing off the shifter that is currently fleeing towards Elizabeth, not Bernard. If we help finishing this sucker off with a revolver in close quarters, then Tlalli can proceed with the original plan as best she can.
Bernard was trusted to be able to escort our party to town and see to any dangers on the way, so it's clearly not just a normal leopard. That leopard has been fighting together with Tlalli for a while. Just because the situation isn't going to plan doesn't mean it has exceeded what the fallback can handle. We're talking about an injured shifter that's about to get hit by a sphere that will weaken it and harm its mobility. Bernard can take care of that. Even if he were to somehow fail at killing it, at the very least Elizabeth can run for it without getting herself injured. Don't tunnelvision on trying to make the situation go according to the original plan. We just need to make sure the current situation works out.

On that note, I may as well set my 2nd vote to just 2D.
 

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The problem is I don't think we're good enough to be a tag team with Tlalli. That's just hubris. Our version of a tag team is Tlalli (the expert) suddenly having a noob teammate insert himself into her fight.
I'd share your concern if we were fighting in melee with her, but with a ranged weapon we simply need to stand there and shoot the damn thing. Breath, aim, squeeze the trigger at the right moment. I think that you're exaggerating the difficulty of this task.
 

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That's actually worse, Baltika9. If we were to slug it out we might hold it down or something for her. But firing into a melee is pretty fucking dangerous. There is a real risk of friendly fire there.
 
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but with a ranged weapon we simply need to stand there and shoot the damn thing.
With the gun we don't know how to use and our 1/5 ranged weapons skill. Great plan.

btw, the waters are rising. Tlalli will be slower. If it runs and attacks Sophie, there will be nothing stopping it.
 

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Tigranes was so right. The longer discuss goes on, the more people forget what we've actually read and go off into retarded fantasies about fighting along side "gram gram" with our gun that we have no idea how to use.

Add to that people get irrationally tied to their positions and even forget why they want to choose them.

:deathclaw:


I'm just going to quote some sentences from the last update:
“I…” Sophie hesitates, looking at the large cat, and then at you. “Oh, fine, I’ll come along too! It is not that I am afraid to go alone, are we clear on that?”
“Is there… nothing else to sleep on?” adds Sophie.

“Sheltered little princesses,” sighs Tlalli. “Here, I’ll get out a blanket for you…”
After Sophie sets sight on the shifter, you will map the surrounding area with your book, which will help Tlalli determine where the quarry will likely flee. That is where Elizabeth will get into position, moving deeper into the swamp by using her boots; the swampy terrain meant that Tlalli wouldn’t be able to keep up easily once it decided to run. Tlalli hands Elizabeth a small bronze orb, telling her that all she needs to do is to toss it at the shifter when the monster is chased that way. It’ll weaken and slow the shifter down enough so that Tlalli can put it down for good.
A revolver. You have no experience with firearms but you know the theory behind using one. Just aim and shoot. How hard can it be?
The hag raises its bent and scrawny limbs and makes an ululating curse, glaring murderously at Tlalli. The water begins to rise, turning the swamp into an even worse mire.
D. Head towards Sophie to guard her. She’s the only one left alone at the moment and you want to make sure nothing untoward happens to her.
If there are two shapeshifters here, who says there can’t be three?

Make of these what you will.

Just read them before deciding to go with Baltika9's fantasies of helping "gram gram" by pointing our gun we have never even fired before in her direction while she is in heated, close-quarters combat with a monster. 1/5 ranged weapons skill. smh
 
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That's actually worse, Baltika9. If were to slug it out we might hold it down or something for her. But firing into a melee is pretty fucking dangerous. There is a real risk of friendly fire there.
I think our hunt3r boi is smart, experienced with killing stuff and disciplined enough to not shoot until he has a clear shot, or if the changeling tries to pass Tlalli.
If it runs and attacks Sophie, there will be nothing stopping it.
I'm afraid I don't follow. I'm under the impression that 2A has us attacking the changeling with the weapon we pick. If that weapon is a ranged weapon, we shoot it.
 

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2A is explicitly a vote for trying to kill the thing as quickly as possible. The slow and steady trigger discipline you speak of is not how that option works.
 

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2A is explicitly a vote for trying to kill the thing as quickly as possible. The slow and steady trigger discipline you speak of is not how that option works.
Exactly. Add to that that this is a 10yo with a gun who thinks that the basic idea is point and shoot. Why would he regard it as anything other than just another weapon?
 

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The kid has NEVER TOUCHED A GUN until this morning, has NEVER FIRED IT, has had no training, has LIVED AWAY FROM CIVILISATION MOST OF HIS LIFE by the way so hasn't even seen the movies. Kid isn't James Bond.

We ain't hitting anything other than our own allies unless we roll a nat 20.
 

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Nah if the monster is rushing at us we don't need to have great skills. We just need our weapon to pack a wallop and preferably not require reloading to shoot more than once. Revolvers are easy enough to use if your enemy's fairly close and coming at you. Firing a revolver into a melee would be an extremely bad idea though. That requires much more skill than we have. Even trained soldiers avoid shooting into a melee if they can help it.

For 2A a revolver is a terrible choice of weapon. For 2D it's good.
 

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I agree that 2D is the only one we'd have a chance of hitting anything with. Plus, I'm hoping that having Sophie right next to us as our eyes will help.
 

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D feels a bit too passive, since you're waiting on someone to come after Sophie before you do anything
Which is what you do when you guard someone.

Honestly, we’re one heck of an irresponsible brat. Everyone here is doing their job except us and we’re looking to do someone else’s job for them instead of being the most useful where we can be.

Tlalli is fighting the monsters, the cat is guarding Liz, Liz is bait for the monster, Sophie is looking for more enemies and what are we doing? Looking for any excuse we can not to guard the one person that can see these things before they attack, who is totally unguarded at the moment.

Hey, I know what we can do! Let’s do the cat’s job! Or the monster hunter’s job! Let’s hide in the bushes and try and spot the things we literally can’t spot before they attack because we don’t have magic glasses. Anything but guarding the member of our team who is extremely important right now and vulnerable! Please! Anything but that!

:kingcomrade:

After a day away from the keyboard and a good night's sleep, I have seen the error of my ways. I was (am?) retarded.

Flopping to BD
 

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When people start stating that "this or that is OBVIOUSLY the right choice", I kinda zone out.
No. It's not obvious. You can see that from the votes. So stop being a haughty son-of-a-bitch.

It's only obvious if you're a certified Treave mind-reader.

We really don't know what either of these choices will lead to, but we're all guessing.
 

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After a day away from the keyboard and a good night's sleep, I have seen the error of my ways. I was (am?) retarded.

Flopping to AD
A will definitely lose to B or C. Might as well pick one of those so your vote isn't thrown away.
He flopped to B. Didn’t work out the way you wanted it to, did it? :lol:
 

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(besides E, which is silly because Sophie will see them before us).
The vote is probably closed by now, but I feel the need to pitch in.

E is not about sitting in the bushes trying to "spot" anything.
E. Hide and watch. If there are two shapeshifters here, who says there can’t be three? You will keep yourself hidden so that you can ambush any enemy who might be trying to ambush you.
It's about staying in reserve and being equidistant from the targtets so we could potentially cover all of them, applying ourselves where we may be needed most... at a cost of a delayed response.
People have said it already that Sophie is under no current threat, and there is a chance she won't be threatened at all.
 

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Alright, double-checked the votes. Seems to be BD then.
 

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