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Spell Blast in T2...


...yeah, that's gonna happen...

FAKE EDIT: OH WAIT ELITE ARCANIST IN T2? xD xD xD so wacky

Nah, seriously mate, it won't happen.

REAL EDIT: If it does become popular, I change my tag to "I'm an MTG noob :("

EDIT2: That's gonna be my tag, isn't it?
 

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Elite Arcanist could be quite huge, just not on curve I reckon.

Honestly I don't think the meta will change a lot from m14. Might be some jaycu based mill decks. Think the biggest boon is to dem hexproof aura decks.

Then again, I never play standard. r00fles!
 

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The gist of it seemed to be: it's a 1/1 creature for 4: horrible. (they also mention that its shit in limited cause it will give enemy card advantage, which is definitely true, but less of an issue in a standard control deck I think.)

Which sort of misses the point, yes it being a creature is a drawback because it would have been harder to remove if it were an enchantment or artifact, but you're never supposed to attack or block with it. It's the text that matters, not the body.
 

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It's a 1/1 for 4 (with the huge downside that if it is killed you just 2-for-1'ed yourself) in the current standard environment that is trying to durdle shit up to do cool stuff in decks that have to play fewer creatures and more spells.

If you have just watched a little standard lately you'd know that that's a pipedream. Never say never, I suppose, but I have no idea how this would ever do something.

I am no standard expert though.
 

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Eh, you don't know shit about this game if you think arcanist is good. It requires an investment of two cards and 4+x mana to simply cast an x costing spell (and with a great risk of walking into 2 for 1 situation). And you're not gaining any advantage while doing so - you're not even breaking even, no, you'll break even on your next turn (meaning that it takes 3 turn to break even here) and then, on the turn 4+, maybe you'll gain some card advantage (and tempo loss won't go away, mind you). Compare this to any kind of cmc 4 planeswalker (which produce an immediate effect and don't require continuous income of mana) and you'll see why arcanist is horrible, overpriced crap.
 

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Honestly I think that as laughable as Arcanist would be in standard, the notion of Spell Blast being played there is even more far out.
 

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Honestly I think that as laughable as Arcanist would be in standard, the notion of Spell Blast being played there is even more far out.
Yeah. There's LOTS of counterspells right now, and spell blast can't compete.
 

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Eh, you don't know shit about this game if you think arcanist is good. It requires an investment of two cards and 4+x mana to simply cast an x costing spell (and with a great risk of walking into 2 for 1 situation). And you're not gaining any advantage while doing so - you're not even breaking even, no, you'll break even on your next turn (meaning that it takes 3 turn to break even here) and then, on the turn 4+, maybe you'll gain some card advantage (and tempo loss won't go away, mind you). Compare this to any kind of cmc 4 planeswalker (which produce an immediate effect and don't require continuous income of mana) and you'll see why arcanist is horrible, overpriced crap.

it's a weaker isochron scepter. IS still requires an investment, but tempo loss is recovered by control deck through sweepers and bounce spells. The point of a control deck is sto stabilize. Once you stabilized, card advantage is what wins you the game. The arcanist is of couse weak by itself, but in a proper control deck, you play it when you have stabilized and use it for recurring card advantage or even as a win condition.



Honestly I think that as laughable as Arcanist would be in standard, the notion of Spell Blast being played there is even more far out.
Out on a limb here, but I have a feeling that next expansions will bring us urzatron back or something similar to that. In current standard, of course, SB has no place.
 

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Honestly I think that as laughable as Arcanist would be in standard, the notion of Spell Blast being played there is even more far out.
Yeah. There's LOTS of counterspells right now, and spell blast can't compete.


Even if Spell Blast could compete with the measly selection we have right now, it still wouldn't be used, because it's shit in a world where tempo means everything. Which deck exactly would you beat with Spell Blast?

Out on a limb here, but I have a feeling that next expansions will bring us urzatron back or something similar to that. In current standard, of course, SB has no place.

Urgh. I'd rather side in Negate's and Essence Scatter depending on the match-up than start with Spell Blast in my deck... I don't think you guys realize how terrible that card is.

It only works if you're on the play or you're ramping, and even then, you have to keep all of you're mana open.

URGH
 

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Just got my first top pauper deck completed. not sure if i should be proud of this
 

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Did they stream the modern masters draft? That's mainly what I'd want to see.
 
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Did they stream the modern masters draft? That's mainly what I'd want to see.
http://www.twitch.tv/magic/b/438606243
It starts somewhere near the 20 minute mark.

Can't watch now, but isn't Marshall there? He is, by far, the best caster.
Yeah, I guess he's kinda ok too. He doesn't scream when someone casts Hill Giant at least. Still, I luv LSV <3 That Sutcliffe guy made me rage so hard though. "International Crack-a-Pack Day!" Fuck, Wizards, why are you doing this to me?
 

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Innistrad drafts on closed beta, making them lulzy decks:

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Would have liked moar Feeling of Dread tho :/
 

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I'm enjoying theros, but i can't seem to be able to come up with a decent standard deck. devotion decks are boring, i'm trying an Izzet variant and it sort of works, but it's not quite there yet... i think black/green might be the way, will have to spend some money on thoughtseizes though...
 

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I'm enjoying theros, but i can't seem to be able to come up with a decent standard deck. devotion decks are boring, i'm trying an Izzet variant and it sort of works, but it's not quite there yet... i think black/green might be the way, will have to spend some money on thoughtseizes though...

My "The Rock" deck is shaping up pretty well. Whip of Erebos is a great card, if you sneak it past countermagic, all your creatures become viable again from the graveyard. Hero's downfall 4X, one of my favorite cards in the format. Thoughtseize, 4X Reaper of the Wilds, 4X Desecration Demon, 1X Primeval Bounty, 4X Caryatids, 2X Scavenging Ooze, etc. Aggro can't kill Reapers and Demons easily enough, and if they do, they come back for a turn with the Whip and buy you turns through lifelink. I'm unsure about merchants of asphodel or how are they called maindeck, but they're p. good.

Once i've tweaked it i'll play it in some tournament and post results :P


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works p. well against aggro, not so great pre-sideboard against control. Side in 2x thoughtseize and 4x duress and you're quite all right, usually. Duress them before putting down a whip of erebos and you're looking pretty good.

I can't seem to find a spot for another of my favorite cards, the sylvan primordial. that's a shame.
 
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It's not about drafts only. Got 4x of every standard legal cards (including Born of the Gods) yesterday.

:yeah:
 

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