uhjghvt
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a little bitElwro said:Just for kicks, does leaving the Overseer alive change anything later on?
a little bitElwro said:Just for kicks, does leaving the Overseer alive change anything later on?
Yes, he will be involved in some quest later on, or at least thats what i heard.Elwro said:Just for kicks, does leaving the Overseer alive change anything later on?
Stevee Wonder said:Balor said:Is there anything in Fallout lore that can explain this?
Do you need Fallout lore to tell how people can learn to read? WTF?
Holy shit man... just wow.
Maybe it's a fucking pop-up picture book with Molerats that fold up. Then even you might fucking understand it.
Drakron said:Balor said:Somebody already mentioned literacy, and it's a very good question... the Moira questline for 'writing a book' is not only haven for the most stupid dialogue in the game, but if you think about it - it's utterly pointless!
Why? I mean serious folk ... its not WRITING WAS CREATED OVER OVER 4000 YEARS!
RIGHT!
I guess LITERACY CAN ONLY BE ARCHIVED BY THE AWESOME POWER OF SCIENCE!!!! not having someone explain what letters means and how to construct phrases, you know ... HOME TEACHING!
Too bad, then :D My baseball bat was too hard for him. I somehow assumed (memories from the Gothic games or something) I'd just be knocking him unconscious.Hamster said:Yes, he will be involved in some quest later on, or at least thats what i heard.Elwro said:Just for kicks, does leaving the Overseer alive change anything later on?
At the time of the Bolshevik Revolution, 37.9 percent of the male population above seven years old was literate and only 12.5 percent of the female population was literate.
And population was growing at enourmous speed, now we have one of the highest literacy rates in the world and demographic crysis.Balor said:At the time of the Bolshevik Revolution, 37.9 percent of the male population above seven years old was literate and only 12.5 percent of the female population was literate.
A nuclear war CAN thrown back humanity several centuries but that is just technologically, society can regress (it did in terms of slavery but that is because government collapsed) but that is a diferent subject and if women are allowed to vote, hold higher office and there is racial equality why on Earth would they decide "reading is teh hard" and ditch it? especially when its a easily taught very useful skill with all that pre-Great War stuff lying around?
Fat Dragon said:So why is this literacy problem just now coming up?
Ehh... that's retarded. You're retarded. It's not science that the post-apocalyptic wasteland is lacking, it's civilization.Drakron said:I guess LITERACY CAN ONLY BE ARCHIVED BY THE AWESOME POWER OF SCIENCE!!!! not having someone explain what letters means and how to construct phrases, you know ... HOME TEACHING!
Dark Individual said:How about you address Balor's points instead of just calling him a retard. Reading evolved as a necessity in civilizations and I can see how it would be lost somewhere for a 12 year old trying to grow something during day and fighting raiders and beasts on the evening.
Balor said:A nuclear war CAN thrown back humanity several centuries but that is just technologically, society can regress (it did in terms of slavery but that is because government collapsed) but that is a diferent subject and if women are allowed to vote, hold higher office and there is racial equality why on Earth would they decide "reading is teh hard" and ditch it? especially when its a easily taught very useful skill with all that pre-Great War stuff lying around?
Well, some people would gladly skip learning to read now if they could get away with that, I can guarantee you that. Otherwise we’d not have the ‘full voice acting’ being basically a requirement for games.
And reading is NOT very easily taught skill. It takes practice, literature and, above all - lots of time and dedication. And, unlike our brave protagonist, people in PA setting don't have such luxury. When war throws you back technologically a few hundred years, you must remember, that during that time an average peasant had to spend MOST of their time dedicated to survival - growing crops, mending tools and housing, fighting raiders, etc. And due to radiation, collapse of infrastructure, etc – it would be EVEN HARDER then for an average MA peasant. So, unless they REALLY need to, they will not spend their valuable time on teaching children to read and write (especially - write, and once books begin to fall apart - which is even noted in F3 - there would be nothing to learn from).
So, why do you think they would consider teaching their children literacy?
"Lots of prewar stuff" would be USELESS for 'an average wastelander'. And operation of guns/plows can be easily described vocally, just like it was for thousands of years.
Books will decay after a hundred years, especially w/o proper storage conditions.
Computers are available only to BOS and Vaults - and they don't have a problem with literacy, anyway. The fact that they are everyone in F3 is a travesty.
I daresay they would only know a few more common written words (like you may remember a few hierogliphs), and not much else.
Am I missing anything?
don't feel too bad I don't think anybody at bethesda knew it eitherJarlFrank said:I didn't even know FO3 was supposed to be set 200 years after the war before reading it here.
uhjghvt said:don't feel too bad I don't think anybody at bethesda knew it eitherJarlFrank said:I didn't even know FO3 was supposed to be set 200 years after the war before reading it here.
Chefe said:You're absolutely right, Balor. Fallout 3 sucks and no one should buy it because the NPCs are literate and that's obviously impossible in a PA setting.
Seriously, why is anyone even responding to this idiot? There are not enough facepalms in the world to throw at him. A typical example of making up shit just for the sake of attacking Bethesda.
No, it's just a dumb bitch being owned and resorting to putting words in my mouth. Yea, I'm talking about you, bitch. Next time, put MY dick you in YOUR mouth, please.Chefe said:... My point is that you were calling it a piece of shit because of the literacy thing, ...
Q.E.D.? There is no Q.E.D. here. This is the goddamn Codex.