Eternity Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Sentinel]

Oh and another complaint. How come they made the talking soulbound weapon a 1 handed sword? I was expecting Sawyer to go full role playing balance and make it some special weapon that transforms itself to the weapon type of your choosing, but if you want to wear it you're literally forced into a playstyle. You can't even equip it on a companion, it has to be equipped on the Watcher.

 

[Lacrymas]

I watched it, I'm disappointed he doesn't go into details and his only argument is "I didn't care". PoE is ripe for literary analysis because it demonstrates how potential can be squandered and how big ideas and concepts can become pretentious and painfully irrelevant without a knowledgeable and skillful hand behind them. It's much better for him to dissect PoE's story, rather than waste his time with the abortions that Bioware has been shitting out.

 

[Sensuki]

I'm kind of shocked at how reasonable this thread has been so far. What the fuck is going on?

A lot of people like me know we are going to hate it, so we didn't buy it / aren't going to play it.

 

[Trashos]

Romance eligibility "spoilers":

Spoiler

Anyone recruit Maia yet? How is she? (Without spoilers)

I made her ranger/wiz and she's pretty ok, wizard self buffs and pew pew.

Did anyone find any soulbound stuff yet? Where is the sword?

at least voluntary celibates have a good amount of representation in this game

Maybe they don't, someone wrote in the previous pages that Eder falls in love with the woman who is TRAPped inside Aloth. I hope he was joking, but with Obsidian you never know.

Pallegina has no pussy, so she has no choice.

 

[Sentinel]

Did anyone find any soulbound stuff yet? Where is the sword?

The talking sword is in the Old City. Take the elevator from the Gutter down and explore around. It's in the southeast section of one of the maps, I think it's the second one.

 

[TalesfromtheCrypt]

Also I was about to praise Megan Starks for Xoti, and this shit happens

even though I purposely decided not to pick the obvious romantic choice in the previous panel. What the fuck. There isn't even an option afterwards to push her away like an autist.

Ok so how exactly did we go from Josh „I don’t want any romances in Pillows 1“ Sawyer to this?

The lack of romances was one of the best things about the first game and now they somehow tried to outdo Mass Effect Andromeda? Someone please explain...

 

[Sentinel]

Also I was about to praise Megan Starks for Xoti, and this shit happens

even though I purposely decided not to pick the obvious romantic choice in the previous panel. What the fuck. There isn't even an option afterwards to push her away like an autist.

Ok so how exactly did we go from Josh „I don’t want any romances in Pillows 1“ Sawyer to this?

The lack of romances was one of the best things about the first game and now they somehow tried to outdo Mass Effect Andromeda? Someone please explain...

Sawyer, despite being firmly against player-sexual romances, decided to leave it up to each individual writer, instead of slamming the fist down on the table and making a sensible decision that would aid the character of each companion.

 

[Jenkem]

The game is incline compared to the first one,it still have a lot of problems but it is decent game.

so, when are you buying it?

 

[2house2fly]

Companions are decline. Aside from Pirate orlan all of them are generic as fuck. Only pirate orlan feel like he is living person
While PoE1 had Durance and GM so far PoE2 has nothing, even pirate i mentioned so far isn't as good as those two.

Yep, for all the areas they tried to stretch and improve into, Obsidian seems like it finally lost it's "touch", something they excelled at. There is no character you meet and just listen in awe. The voice acting is also not there. I miss meeting Kaelyn the Dove and just blankly staring at the screen mesmerised by dialogue about strange worlds and odd celestial politics and philosophies delivered by hauntingly beautiful voice.

The last bastion for me was Durance. He just drawn you into ancient history and was well written and voiced. In this game, we don't really have anyone of that caliber. Instead we have bioware gender fluid romances now.

I'm confused. From reading the thread about PoE1 I had the impressioned Durance and GM were the most hated NPCs. Personally, I liked Durance, didn't care that much for GM. Did the 'Codex opinion on Durance shifted or is my memory failing me?

They found out who wrote him.

 

[Jenkem]

So nobody had the bug where the game crashes every time upon entering the arena under the Engwithian ruins?

Did you guys import from POE1 or start fresh? I kinda suspect that the importing might be the reason.

I imported and was able to complete that area just fine...

 

[SophosTheWise]

So, what's the deal with crew morale? My crew probably has the most varied diet in all of nautical history but they're still pissed. What a weird an annoying mechanic.

 

[MajorMace]

Just cleared the sepulchers in the sacred stair district.
Looks like Sawyer ate the crow regarding pre-buffed enemy casters

Very cool dungeon btw. Did it at level 8, according to their stats, enemies were mostly level 10-12, making for some engaging fights.

 

[Ulfhednar]

How good are rogues? Are they useful in actual combat except pre-combat sneaking? Were thinking about making it my Watcher Rouge, but then it would be shitshow if he turned up to be useless.

You'll probably be happier multiclassing them with something tanky - they're fun, but squishy and probably require more micro than they are worth.

 

[Jenkem]

only talking swords I care about:

 

[Alienman]

So, what's the deal with crew morale? My crew probably has the most varied diet in all of nautical history but they're still pissed. What a weird an annoying mechanic.

They eat the food from left to right. So put the good stuff to the left.

 

[Alienman]

Have to say the performance hit I have in Neketaka is brutal! Running around with 23 FPS. What the hell Obsidian...

 

[Grampy_Bone]

So you can't edit grimoires anymore? Weeeeeeeak

 

[2house2fly]

Also I was about to praise Megan Starks for Xoti, and this shit happens

even though I purposely decided not to pick the obvious romantic choice in the previous panel. What the fuck. There isn't even an option afterwards to push her away like an autist.

Ok so how exactly did we go from Josh „I don’t want any romances in Pillows 1“ Sawyer to this?

The lack of romances was one of the best things about the first game and now they somehow tried to outdo Mass Effect Andromeda? Someone please explain...

Sawyer, despite being firmly against player-sexual romances, decided to leave it up to each individual writer, instead of slamming the fist down on the table and making a sensible decision that would aid the character of each companion.

Do you believe the best way to get good writing out of a writer is to make them operate within very strict parameters?

 

[Sentinel]

Also I was about to praise Megan Starks for Xoti, and this shit happens

even though I purposely decided not to pick the obvious romantic choice in the previous panel. What the fuck. There isn't even an option afterwards to push her away like an autist.

Ok so how exactly did we go from Josh „I don’t want any romances in Pillows 1“ Sawyer to this?

The lack of romances was one of the best things about the first game and now they somehow tried to outdo Mass Effect Andromeda? Someone please explain...

Sawyer, despite being firmly against player-sexual romances, decided to leave it up to each individual writer, instead of slamming the fist down on the table and making a sensible decision that would aid the character of each companion.

Do you believe the best way to get good writing out of a writer is to make them operate within very strict parameters?

Yes. Any character has strict unique parameters that it adheres to, so Sawyer shouldn't even have to tell them that.
But that question is irrelevant, because Obsidian's writers cannot do good writing.

 

[Jenkem]

I watched it, I'm disappointed he doesn't go into details and his only argument is "I didn't care". PoE is ripe for literary analysis because it demonstrates how potential can be squandered and how big ideas and concepts can become pretentious and painfully irrelevant without a knowledgeable and skillful hand behind them. It's much better for him to dissect PoE's story, rather than waste his time with the abortions that Bioware has been shitting out.

I'm watching now and he spends the first 6 minutes talking about POE but says he doesn't remember anything about gods in it.. complains about the backer npcs.. offers little to no criticism or critique of the plot.. says RTWP doesn't service the story (but turn based would? what?) and then says PST is great and that rtwp serves the story of PST (how?) and Tyranny (wat?) then "btw haven't played deadfire but let me read a synopsis on a wiki and tell you why it is shit" ... then I look at his other videos and he has like 11 videos breaking down the story of MASS EFFECT: ANDROMEDA...


which codexer is this?

 

[SophosTheWise]

So, what's the deal with crew morale? My crew probably has the most varied diet in all of nautical history but they're still pissed. What a weird an annoying mechanic.

They eat the food from left to right. So put the good stuff to the left.

I know, still can't get the numbers up.

__

Something I dearly miss, by the way, is [glare silently]

 

[jf8350143]

The relationship system is bugged, like I imagined, they confirmed it in a post on reddit.. That's why Maia and Tekehu's romance conversation triggers so fast. And probably why Xoti and Pallegina will start arguing with each other when you just recruited her 5 minutes ago.

 

[Jenkem]

The relationship system is bugged, like I imagined, they confirmed it in a post on reddit.. That's why Maia and Tekehu's romance conversation triggers so fast. And probably why Xoti and Pallegina will start arguing with each other when you just recruited her 5 minutes ago.

did they say whether or not this will be fixed in the tuesday patch?

 

[jf8350143]

The relationship system is bugged, like I imagined, they confirmed it in a post on reddit.. That's why Maia and Tekehu's romance conversation triggers so fast. And probably why Xoti and Pallegina will start arguing with each other when you just recruited her 5 minutes ago.

did they say whether or not this will be fixed in the tuesday patch?

All they said is "After a little investigation, this appears to be a bug. Thank you for flagging this!".

So no idea. Probably depends on how hard it is to fix this.

 

[Shadenuat]

The not voice acted dialogue in text quests during adventuring, from meeting monsters, storms, natural wonders and nautical creatures, to adressing your crew is best part of this game's writing I think. Not to mention you have 2-3 times the amount of lines and options there compared to voiced dialogue.

....aaand then I go ashore and jaheira sniper I just met hits on me right away. Thank you for reminding me you are still written by millenial fangirls gaem. Compared to this BG2 romances were almost tame and classic.

Fuck, that's a pretty quick slide from hard no-romances stance into scraping the barrel for every lost bioware fan aimlessly wandering in search for games after DA2/DAI/Andromeda fiasco. I wanna ask Sawyer what happened.