POLL: Is your general sentiment towards POE negative or positive?

[DeepOcean]

There is a diference in polemics before and after release, before was:

Do you like or not Sawyer's decisions?

Afterwards:

Is PoE an awful game or not?

Those seem pretty different polemics for me because I didn't completely disagreed with Sawyers ideas (I still think that removing hard counters is silly) but I didn't expected the game end so unfinished and unfullfiling like this. I mean, if they placed a sign UNDER CONSTRUCTION! on the place of the stronghold, I wouldn't even notice the change.

 

[Shevek]

How the fuck can people have a debate of PoE being awful or not if it hasnt been released? Seriously, did you just drink Drano or something? Of course that debate happened after release.

Some people are upset that the game didn't conform to their to their very specific benchmarks of what it should have done. They are emotionally invested in those relatively few things because so few of these games are being made and they being drama queens on these boards about it. How is this a surprise or indicative of the game's quality?

 

[DeepOcean]

How the fuck can people have a debate of PoE being awful or not if it hasnt been released? Seriously, did you just drink Drano or something? Of course that debate happened after release.

Some people are upset that the game didn't conform to their to their very specific benchmarks of what it should have done. They are emotionally invested in those relatively few things because so few of these games are being made and they being drama queens on these boards about it. How is this a surprise or indicative of the game's quality?

Whoa! Dude... I think you need a bit of self awareness. Hummm... when PoE apologists are going to stop creating those virtual haters that hate PoE because they hate Sawyer since he was born and stop applying that shit to everyone that criticizes the game? Sure, there are nitpicky posts of all kinds on the codex but its pretty easy to spot those but act as if every negative post is nitpick is just the same as placing the fingers on the ears and shout LA!LA!LA!LA!LA! You people are looking like those people that say "People only like old and outdated games because they are nostalgic." Yeah, the business of professor Xs reading minds, intentions and tastes is really going strong.

No dude, I'm no part of this virtual group of "Some people are upset that the game didn't conform to their to their very specific benchmarks of what it should have done. " If I REALLY applied my tastes to PoE, it would be a turn based, C&C heavy game with quests with different outcomes that could really change whole areas but I didn't expected that from a BG 1 clone, I just didn't expect the unfinished BG 1 clone part.

 

[Irenaeus]

blah blah blah... go back to Dragon Age

 

[Johannes]

This is a pretty interesting poll, and diverges a lot with the traditional rating system in JC's poll. If you go by JC's poll, you have 69.4% of people that liked the game, then there's 16.9% that's ambivalent, and a very measly 7.1% that gave it a bad rating, and of course a small minority that abstained from voting. However, that really doesn't explain at all the overwhelming negativity on these forums (but really, when you create a game that has no redeeming quality except poorly designed graphics that actually detract from gameplay... then that is really to be expected). As I suspected, this poll has hit closer to the truth than the standard rating system, we find that a significantly larger percentage of Codexers actually feel negatively towards the game, in fact, the ratio of negative to positive has been a fairly even 3:5 from the beginning of the poll.

Given that this is a fan forum, that Obsidian has for a long time been the Codex's favorite developer (without any really compelling reason for that matter), that most people were looking forward to the game, and that this RPG was supposed to be right up the Codex's alley (at least the basic premise of it), and that it features extensive systems and structures somewhat reminiscent of older games..... 48% positive sentiment really isn't a good result for POE.

Notice also that the numeric ratings poll has over a third more votes.

 

[AwesomeButton]

How the fuck can people have a debate of PoE being awful or not if it hasnt been released?

Actually, the apologists' best line of defence is to continue to claim PoE hasn't been released, which wouldn't be far from the truth

As it is, PoE is a casual game with pretty graphics but no challenge to it. Hence the poll results and the positive-to-negative-to-ambivalent ratio.

 

[Irenaeus]

How the fuck can people have a debate of PoE being awful or not if it hasnt been released?

Actually, the apologists' best line of defence is to continue to claim PoE hasn't been released.

The apologists' best line of defense is that not only the game was released, but it is a masterpiece 10/10

 

[ArchAngel]

Making a game that only has 28% haters on RPGCodex is a massive success for any RPG developer.
RPGCodex is most negative RPG community and most demanding and this is a good score for PoE. Don't expect Obsidian to change anything even if they cared about what Codex thinks

 

[imweasel]

We've had better. E.g. D:OS only has max. 16% haters and detractors (depending on how you interpret the numbers) according to our last RPGOTY poll. Whoever rated 4/5 or 5/5 obviously likes the game.

 

[roshan]

Let's check the results for other recent RPGs:
http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...isometric-rpg-hivemind-sentiment-index.99000/

 

[ArchAngel]

Let's check the results for other recent RPGs:
http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...isometric-rpg-hivemind-sentiment-index.99000/

The number of people that voted there make those polls irevelent.

 

[roshan]

Let's check the results for other recent RPGs:
http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...isometric-rpg-hivemind-sentiment-index.99000/

The number of people that voted there make those polls irevelent.

Care to explain?

EDIT: BTW, It's a new thread.

 

[ArchAngel]

Let's check the results for other recent RPGs:
http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...isometric-rpg-hivemind-sentiment-index.99000/

The number of people that voted there make those polls irevelent.

Care to explain?

EDIT: BTW, It's a new thread.

Ah lol, I didn't notice it being a new one. Well in that case it will become relevant in few days.

 

[J_C]

So it's probably fair to say that the game not only failed in the various aspects in which it was obviously going to be a failure, but also in every aspect in which it was actually almost universally expected to succeed.

And still, 2/3 of people like the game, and only a small minority bash it in a really vocal way. What a failure!

 

[Kem0sabe]

I started out positive, then mildly unamused, then bored, and by the final boss fight i thought the game was an utterly mediocre experience.

Theres a good basis in terms of lore and world building, but the game mechanics, quest design, etc, were forgettable and wouldnt want to see them in a sequel.

 

[Ovplain]

Ambivalent all the way.

 

[Immortal]

So it's probably fair to say that the game not only failed in the various aspects in which it was obviously going to be a failure, but also in every aspect in which it was actually almost universally expected to succeed.

And still, 2/3 of people like the game, and only a small minority bash it in a really vocal way. What a failure!

I can't think of anyone more vocal than you and Iren on this topic... ironically..

 

[J_C]

So it's probably fair to say that the game not only failed in the various aspects in which it was obviously going to be a failure, but also in every aspect in which it was actually almost universally expected to succeed.

And still, 2/3 of people like the game, and only a small minority bash it in a really vocal way. What a failure!

I can't think of anyone more vocal than you and Iren on this topic... ironically..

But we don't bash it.

 

[Immortal]

So it's probably fair to say that the game not only failed in the various aspects in which it was obviously going to be a failure, but also in every aspect in which it was actually almost universally expected to succeed.

And still, 2/3 of people like the game, and only a small minority bash it in a really vocal way. What a failure!

I can't think of anyone more vocal than you and Iren on this topic... ironically..

But we don't bash it.

Maybe the "vocal minority" isn't the people disappointed with the game.

 

[Hatred]

And still, 2/3 of people like the game, and only a small minority bash it in a really vocal way. What a failure!

Check again. Less than 1/2 of people like the game. It may be a success in the wider world but it isn't a success on the 'dex.

 

[roshan]

I wonder if any of the votes in this thread need to be updated? Seems like lots of people that initially liked the game have gotten tired or burnt out.

 

[Florian Gheorghe]

I am playing Planescape Torment and PoE at the same time and I still think PoE is a good game that will improve with the expansion and hopefully with a 2nd part.

 

[Jimmious]

The game is good. Obviously suffers from some design choices that kept it from being great, but it does keep me interested to reach the end finally(I'm a completionist and don't have a lot of time= bad combination for large RPGs)
Especially difficulty wise in the last part, it's bumpy to say the least. While the master from below for example is a super tough battle as well as some of the bounties, most other main quest related fights tend to be a cake walk.

 

[prodigydancer]

PoE is a casual game with pretty graphics but no challenge to it.

Which is what it's intended to be. I hardly knew anything about D&D back when I was playing BG for the first time and most fights still felt pretty easy (on Core difficulty).

Level 12 is overkill however; a lower level cap (8-9) would be enough and it would make endgame more involving.

 

[Kz3r0]

Did anyone noticed how many 2015 newfags like the game?