Randomly Generated Items

[Raze]

I understand you had set items in DD but they were still randomly placed into loot lists. You guys don't ever seem to want to put static items in the world.

The unique and set items in DD were in specific locations, or available from specific NPCs or quests. The unique and set items in D2DC were also hand-placed, and (unlike DD) had preset stats.
I didn't say more unique items would be added to random loot tables, or let alone that that would be the only way they were added.

 

[Lacrymas]

Yeah, because you didn't say anything specific at all. That's why we had wildly different interpretations. You are like the bible. "It will have more unique and craftable gear" tells us nothing of the way such gear is acquired. I'm just uncharacteristically optimistic and think that it means "hand-placed loot".

or that that would be the only way they were added.

This also doesn't sound very reassuring.

 

[Raze]

To be more precise, replace 'or' in that sentence with with 'let alone'.

 

[Immortal]

The unique and set items in DD were in specific locations, or available from specific NPCs or quests. The unique and set items in D2DC were also hand-placed, and (unlike DD) had preset stats.
I didn't say more unique items would be added to random loot tables, or let alone that that would be the only way they were added.

I guess your right..

The reason I thought they are part of a loot list was because they were shoved in random locations with no reason or backstory.
The helmet is in a cellar, The Belt is bought off a merchant and one is a quest reward and one is in a chest in a tomb. There's no hints about where they are or why. It just looks you made a set of items then said "fuck.. where do we put it.." and just started sticking it in places.

I mean really...

• Scorpion Gauntlets: Chest, Complete "Reaping the Seeds" - Primordial Cave (Orobas Fjord)
• Scorpion Helmet: Loot, Complete "Down the Hatch" - Dragon Cliff Castle (Orobas Fjord)
• Scorpion Leggings: Trader, Buy them - Refugee-camp (Sentinel Island)
• Scorpion Cuirass: Trader, Buy it - Dragon Cliff Castle (Orobas Fjord)
• Scorpion Belt: Blue Chest, Stone's Fortress
• Scorpion Necklace: Chest between Jonah & Beach Shrine, Complete "From Soup to Nuts" (Sentinel Island)
• Scorpion Earrings: Golden Chest, Keara's Flying Fortress
• Scorpion Bracelet: Loot, Kill Imp boss - Imps' Lair (Orobas Fjord)
• Scorpion Ring: Kali's flying fortress - the one at the end of Rivertown Gorge, in a blue chest on the lowest part of the first large island.
• Scorpion Sword: Chest, Complete "Grave Robbers" & flip the switches - Lost Tomb (Orobas Fjord)

 

[Raze]

they were shoved in random locations with no reason or backstory.

Well, not quite random, but many were distributed to be found through exploration, rather than working them into the story or lore (some were in the possession of boss opponents, or required a quest to obtain).

 

[Lacrymas]

Item design (that includes stats, lore, placement, appearance, context) is very tricky and requires creativity, but you guys have boatloads of that so I'm sure you'll figure it out.

 

[Immortal]

Well, not quite random, but many were distributed to be found through exploration, rather than working them into the story or lore (some were in the possession of boss opponents, or required a quest to obtain).

I have nothing against having set items spread around the world and having to go on a easter egg hunt for them with little help. That's really fun.
But when that is -every- unique item except your final armor set (Ulthrings).. Then what's the point?

Larian is so good at creating interesting side locations and memorable characters.
Breathe some life into those encounters with some nice item backstory.

 

[Lacrymas]

Calling it now - level-scaled random items will trump all (static) uniques in the game given enough levels. They will also trump *all* low level uniques in general, so no Moonblade or Edwin's amulet for you. All items will also have a level requirement because of scaled randoms, so no low level Ankheg Plate for you.

 

[Immortal]

Calling it now - level-scaled random items will trump all (static) uniques in the game given enough levels. They will also trump *all* low level uniques in general, so no Moonblade or Edwin's amulet for you. All items will also have a level requirement because of scaled randoms, so no low level Ankheg Plate for you.

Calling it now.. They don't give a shit about itemization despite that being the most hot topic issue for their games. There is Übermensch levels of backwards rationalizing going on about what people want from Divinity games.

Less Romance bullshit and more interesting items please.

 

[TigerKnee]

It's kind of funny that RPG designers use random loot and then immediately remove the point of randomized loot by significantly downplaying the random aspect through level scaling and requirements.

In Nethack, you could potentially spawn a (Colour) Dragon Armour in the very first room of the game (though at a percentage chance akin to winning the lottery) and it would certainly make you feel powerful even though there are still a billion other ways to get yourself killed.

 

[Lacrymas]

Calling it now.. They don't give a shit about itemization despite that being the most hot topic issue for their games. There is Übermensch levels of backwards rationalizing going on about what people want from Divinity games.

Less Romance bullshit and more interesting items please.

It's kind of funny that RPG designers use random loot and then immediately remove the point of randomized loot by significantly downplaying the random aspect through level scaling and requirements.

In Nethack, you could potentially spawn a (Colour) Dragon Armour in the very first room of the game (though at a percentage chance akin to winning the lottery) and it would certainly make you feel powerful even though there are still a billion other ways to get yourself killed.

I'm not entirely sure they *get* the point of items. It's not about changing your equipment every few levels like we are playing Barbie's Dress-up, but they seem to be going for that feel for some reason.