Riven remake

[El Presidente]

Steam page for the remake is up



Looks pretty and faithful but what's with this stupid subtitle

Anyways please don't suck

 

[Jaesun]

I'll cautiously fap for now (I did add this to my wishlist). Since it shows Cyan actually developing this, this at least has piqued my interest.

 

[Darkozric]

GOG page is also up, looks gud
https://www.gog.com/en/game/riven?f...social&utm_source=facebook&utm_term=EN&r=true

 

[Martyr]

ugh. Riven hasn't aged nearly enough for a remake to be necessary. imo people who might have trouble with the navigation and play style of the original or lack the patience to overcome their difficulty are not the target audience anyway. Cyan should rather work on something new instead of developing pointless remakes.

 

[Great Deceiver]

Creativity is a very finite resource and it seems the world's all out of it

 

[Darkozric]

Cyan already worked on something new and they fucked it up, it's better to retire with a good remake than with more mediocre shit.

 

[Jaesun]

Cyan already worked on something new and they fucked it up, it's better to retire with a good remake than with more mediocre shit.

Yeah, Obduction was well.... Obduction. I'm still curious what they do with this.

 

[Martyr]

Cyan already worked on something new and they fucked it up, it's better to retire with a good remake than with more mediocre shit.

Yeah, Obduction was well.... Obduction. I'm still curious what they do with this.

didn't you like Obduction?
I felt like it wasn't on the same level as Myst or Riven, but it kept me well entertained for the duration of 2 playthroughs over the years. on the other hand there are the countless Myst remakes that I haven't touched since the first one. I've played the original multiple times, I don't need the same thing over again but with shiny graphics.
same with Riven. I've replayed that in 2021 and was amazed at how little it has aged. the added content of the remake does indeed sound intriguing, but not enough that it makes me want to buy it.

 

[Darkozric]

Cyan already worked on something new and they fucked it up, it's better to retire with a good remake than with more mediocre shit.

Yeah, Obduction was well.... Obduction. I'm still curious what they do with this.

didn't you like Obduction?
I felt like it wasn't on the same level as Myst or Riven, but it kept me well entertained for the duration of 2 playthroughs over the years. on the other hand there are the countless Myst remakes that I haven't touched since the first one. I've played the original multiple times, I don't need the same thing over again but with shiny graphics.
same with Riven. I've replayed that in 2021 and was amazed at how little it has aged. the added content of the remake does indeed sound intriguing, but not enough that it makes me want to buy it.

Obduction had its problems but it wasn't a bad game overall, I posted my thoughts about it on the fpp adventure thread, I was talking about Firmament.

I don't disagree on how little Riven has aged, but when it comes to Riven I'll accept anything the Millers throw at me like a starving dog.

After all, we got 158 remakes of the first game, a 3D remake of their magnum opus will not bring the end of the world.

Also don't forget that Robin is 57 and Rand 64, I prefer to see them retire with something decent than to desecrate their career with more Firmaments.

 

[El Presidente]

This game's biggest sin is that it'll most certainly replace the actors for awful 3D models just like they did with Myst's remake. After tons of complaints Cyan patched the option to use the original FMVs in the game, except they conveniently ignored pretty much all the endings, where you're still forced to deal with the 3D models regardless of turning the original FMVs on. The 3D brothers' bad endings are really terrible and break the whimsical/mysterious nature of the trap books really bad, as it throws you inside this little space with a huge "gap to the outside world" above your head, which makes no sense at all considering how you interact with Sirrus and Achenar when they are trapped inside them. In that regard (plus having the bonus Rime age) realMyst Masterpiece Edition is the better remake, as it manages to preserve even Atrus in his desk as a video with Rand Miller - albeit a new one they filmed just for it. Well, as a matter of fact, there are many more reasons to consider realMyst to be the superior remake, not just that. The dynamic weather and night/day cycles are sweet and a few other smaller touches, like this for example:

Achenar's rose-skull projection device in...

Myst Masterpiece:



...in realMyst:



...and finally in the newest remake where it's laughably bad, almost like they purposely wanted to insult the thing and turn it into a mockery:




We can only hope they'll keep such uh artistic changes to a minimum, preferably to zero, but we'll see. As for replacing the actors for 3D models, I expect nothing short of a trainwreck, especially in Gehn's case, which is one of the highlights of Riven.

 

[Infinitron]

 

[Ludwig von Eisenthal]

I love Riven but I have to admit I can't feel anything watching such an utterly meaningless "treaser" devoid of any real information, without the slightest aesthetics. To me this whole project feels as if now - after they re-re-re-released a shitload of Myst remakes, every single one inferior to the original game - these fuckers will now do the same with Riven. Mark my words, for the next ten+ years you'll have your regular Riven remake every 1-2 years.

 

[Darkozric]

 

[Star Citizen]

Cruel af for them to end it there LOL it's one thing that's been burning on my mind is to see if they managed to get the cart rides right. Actually looks pretty good, now just to see how they did the characters. I'm hoping that they stuck to the FMV.

 

[Skinwalker]

Is it out yet?

 

[Morpheus Kitami]

Cruel af for them to end it there LOL it's one thing that's been burning on my mind is to see if they managed to get the cart rides right. Actually looks pretty good, now just to see how they did the characters. I'm hoping that they stuck to the FMV.

It is a very good question, because there are times where people exist in the game world as opposed to being their own thing, unlike Myst. (Don't um, actually me, the person at the end can't be directly touched) This time though, you'll be able to go anywhere, which would break FMV if they allow you free movement at that time. The first time you go into the village, for instance.

 

[Star Citizen]

Cruel af for them to end it there LOL it's one thing that's been burning on my mind is to see if they managed to get the cart rides right. Actually looks pretty good, now just to see how they did the characters. I'm hoping that they stuck to the FMV.

It is a very good question, because there are times where people exist in the game world as opposed to being their own thing, unlike Myst. (Don't um, actually me, the person at the end can't be directly touched) This time though, you'll be able to go anywhere, which would break FMV if they allow you free movement at that time. The first time you go into the village, for instance.

Yeah, I mean wouldnt be impossible. Could just lock you into scenes with FMV characters like the OG did. The MYST Remakes 3D characters looked like dog water

 

[Star Citizen]

Well this confirms that it's going to use 3D models for characters, let's just hope they look better than the Myst remake's did.

 

[Skinwalker]

Most of Riven takes place in just the Age of Riven, right? Except for the intro sequence which is in D'ni, and a few brief excursions into the Moety age, and that one world with an inhospitable alien landscape or something.

 

[Darkozric]

Most of Riven takes place in just the Age of Riven, right? Except for the intro sequence which is in D'ni, and a few brief excursions into the Moety age, and that one world with an inhospitable alien landscape or something.

Yup, 5 interconnected islands plus Tay (the Moiety/Rebel Age), and the Age 233, the first Age that Gehn was able to write while trapped on Riven. I'm curious to see if they will expand any of those Ages.

 

[Darkozric]

 

[Star Citizen]

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

 

[Foxtrix]

There is a demo on Steam. I have played it and was actually very impressed. Everything looks really good (minus the 3D characters) and it runs very well (better than Firmament?). There is a ton of detail in textures, models, etc. and I don't think it sacrifices anything compared to the original (for example in terms of lighting or photorealism, where sadly the last Myst game in Unreal Engine didn't do great IMO, especially in some of the exterior environments like Myst island).

I noticed some subtle differences and additions in terms of content, but nothing jarring or unwelcome so far. Hope they don't dumb down any puzzles.

With each of their revisions of the original Myst I always felt that they took some steps forward and some steps back. I'm hoping this new Riven doesn't disappoint.

EDIT: It looks like this is their first game using Unreal Engine 5. Not sure if that is the reason for the seemingly better visual fidelity and performance compared to their more recent UE4 games like Myst and Firmament. If so, I hope they upgrade them to UE5.

 

[Star Citizen]

To my surprise the 3D character models don't look half bad at all - still not perfect but waaaay better than I thought they'd be and a fair compromise. Extremely impressed at how well they've managed to nail the aesthetic.
3 days

 

[NwNgger]

I very much enjoyed playing the Myst remake in VR and I'm excited to experience Riven in VR too. It's always been one of those places I wish really existed so I could walk through it in real life so VR is the next best thing. I do agree that the 3D models for the actors were dogshit. I don't understand why they couldn't use the FMVs for that like they did in Obduction.