Codex Review RPG Codex Review: Torment: Tides of Numenera

[DeepOcean]

People bashing rpgs for being rpgs and not some console shit with lite rpg elements.

We should waste time bashing popamole crap so we could get "haerdcore" points and only then we could criticize an RPG? That doesn't make any sense.

doing real and significant damage to real rpg developers.

Basic function of a videogame is to entertain you. I symphatize with someone wanting more RPGs to be made but if those RPGs are boring videogames failing on their basic function as videogames, I don't see the point.

What lesson does this teach developers? Make shitty rpg like hipster shit or some other type of safe game that is far easier to make than real rpgs.

Yeah, so lying to make their little special snowflakes egoes better, saying their shitty games aren't shitty will teach them what? To continue making shit games? No, thanks.

It is impossible to have a conversation with retards or people who do not even like the genre.

Of course, not liking a game is like not liking a whole genre. If I don't like Call of Duty, I won't like Doom because, of course, both are completely similar because they are on the same genre.

The only people that seem to be able to string a coherent sentence together are some how drama mad sycophants who are far too filled with rage to have an actual debate with.

A debate involve two sides, if you say you won't engage people because they are "mad sycophants", then there won't be a debate by definition, this is circular logic. Circular logic is the kind of shit people that don't wanna debates use. "I won't have a debate with you because I don't like you, why won't you debate with me?" The areguments about the game were made, you say what you think about them or continue whining, your choice.

Also, I hope you do not think I would write Roqua on my account and then state I am not him.

Hi, Roqua.

 

[prodigydancer]

However, I think that making a proper review of a game like TToN would be the same as pointing out mistakes in writing and teaching how to actually write. Not only it would require lots of skill, but it's something you should get paid money for by developer, heh.

Come on. Their writing is so weak at times you don't have to be a writer yourself to criticize it.

How the hell can memories blaze and be visible for "kilometers around"? OK, maybe in the Underdark they can, but the context here is that you're all alone in a place that is likely a figment of your imagination. Ah well, who cares? Let's ignore logic if it stands in the way of our marketing goals.

Must... get... to 1.2m... words...

 

[Ismaul]

The rpgcodex used to be pro-rpg. Now they are pro Asian console games. Rpgs cannot be discussed here in any productive or meaningful way. E.g. - This review, any thread on a real rpg made primarily for the PC such as WL2, PoE, Tyranny, etc. Compare this to the love every game gets in the Asian forum and even you fucking brainiacs should see a stark difference.

So you admit you went to the "asian console" forum, often enough to be able to compare the reception of those games vs "western" rpgs. Why would you even go there, if you're not an anti-rpg console-lover retard? Retard.

There's a reason the subforums are separate.

P.S. Numenera is a console game.

 

[Schizophrenic monolog]

Edit: Whoops quoted wrong post.

Depends. In most cases in an RTWP, the developers let only lose the enemies on player, without any refined tactic. But as we see this also happens in an TB system. A good TB and RTWP could technically behave the same concerning the tactics, just made with other means.

The only RTwP system I can remember right now which was good and doesn't induced desire to dismember its creator was system in Evil Islands.

Alos http://riotpixels.com/torment-tides-of-numenera-review/ - 74% lol, while game deseve no more than 55% at max. Bunch of popamolers...

That steam thread is a goldmine at the moment.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/272270/discussions/0/133259227531564004/?ctp=9

"Breitbart of video game world" is as good a description of Codex as any. Though, their community is actually viler than Breitbart.

You can't ban an organisation from doing reviews, regrettably.

This thread is starting to get into flaming and trolling territory pretty quick. We do like that people are expressing their opinions, but when it gets into personal attacks, or attacks on specific gaming communities (whether for or against), it's fair to say things have probably run their course. Let's keep the discussion about the game and not people's political views or perceived mental health issues, please.

And its closed.

Dude, a very big chunk of this game happens within the Castoff mind!!!

IT'S ALL ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES!!!

 

[Daedalos]

Keeping up with this thread requires a 2nd full-time job

The butthurt is worth it doe.

 

[vivec]

@discussion on RtWP vs TB

You guys are missing the point. This is a PST spirit sequel. Combat don't matter.

 

[ArchAngel]

Shut up Roqua.

I thought RPGCodex was supposed to be good because of 'muh freeze peach'

Yeah, he has the free speech to wall o' text us and people have the right to tell him to go to hell. On most other forums he and his IP address would have been banned and his posts would have been deleted long ago.

Probably why he is still here. I bet he was banned on all other sites he came with that shitty attitude and way of posting.

 

[Iznaliu]

Probably why he is still here. I bet he was banned on all other sites he came with that shitty attitude and way of posting.

ArchAngel is right for once.

 

[Haba]

You guys are missing the point. This is a PST spirit sequel. Combat don't matter.

If you keep repeating it long enough, you think it will become true?

Of course combat mattered in PS:T. That's the part where you get to see the effect of your character development choices.

 

[an Administrator]

I prefer the combat in TToN. There's less trash mobs

 

[Daedalos]

Codexers complaining about other codexers' attitude and shitposting. Ladies and gentlemen, we have come full circle.

LeL.

 

[vivec]

You guys are missing the point. This is a PST spirit sequel. Combat don't matter.

If you keep repeating it long enough, you think it will become true?

Of course combat mattered in PS:T. That's the part where you get to see the effect of your character development choices.

Hmm. maybe badly phrased on my part. How about Combat played the second fiddle? What I really wanted to say was that first off they must get the storytelling right.

 

[jewboy]

Sorry guys but pretty much anyone posting to this thread would probably get banned from any 'normal' forum. Even me. Hell just my username would be enough. It is true that this is one of the only forums I know of where you really do have almost complete freedom of speech. Well except for getting tagged. Don't know what YES! is complaining about though. At least he doesn't have to live with the Pretty Princess tag Volourn has had for all these years. If you try to go up directly against DarkUnderlord I would imagine you might get into trouble unless you are someone important like Vault Dweller but you can pretty much do/say anything else. Maybe direct links to pirated games is verboten though. A shame that. I'm planning to upload one soon that is strangely enough otherwise unavailable.

What I find interesting is that this forum has seemed to have become kinder/gentler over the years. Anyone else notice this? People were such angry cunts here a decade ago almost everything devolved into a full on flame war in the first 10 posts. I wonder if it's the Dragon Age loving millennials that I am always hating on who are responsible for the toned down tone. I don't really think they belong here, but if they help keep the discussions more civil at least that's something. Having said that almost everyone here is still a huge cunt, but that's probably true of every gaming forum.

 

[Chunkyman]

That steam thread is a goldmine at the moment.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/272270/discussions/0/133259227531564004/?ctp=9

You know this place really could stand to put "Breitbart Gaming Division" on it's tagline. Has a nice ring to it.

 

[RationalLunatic]

What I find interesting is that this forum has seemed to have become kinder/gentler over the years. Anyone else notice this? People were such angry cunts here a decade ago almost everything devolved into a full on flame war in the first 10 posts. I wonder if it's the Dragon Age loving millennials that I am always hating on who are responsible for the toned down tone. I don't really think they belong here, but if they help keep the discussions more civil at least that's something. Having said that almost everyone here is still a huge cunt, but that's probably true of every gaming forum.

Or maybe they grew up?

 

[Infinitron]

http://steamcommunity.com/app/272270/discussions/0/133259227531564004/?ctp=9

"Breitbart of video game world" is as good a description of Codex as any. Though, their community is actually viler than Breitbart.

That's a pretty apt comparison, actually. The Breitbart of the video game world, not the Daily Stormer of the video game world as some would have it.

What I find interesting is that this forum has seemed to have become kinder/gentler over the years. Anyone else notice this? People were such angry cunts here a decade ago almost everything devolved into a full on flame war in the first 10 posts. I wonder if it's the Dragon Age loving millennials that I am always hating on who are responsible for the toned down tone. I don't really think they belong here, but if they help keep the discussions more civil at least that's something. Having said that almost everyone here is still a huge cunt, but that's probably true of every gaming forum.

Much of the one-liner shitposting of the old days is now outsourced to the Shoutbox.

 

[Daedalos]

Sorry guys but pretty much anyone posting to this thread would probably get banned from any 'normal' forum. Even me. Hell just my username would be enough. It is true that this is one of the only forums I know of where you really do have almost complete freedom of speech. Well except for getting tagged. Don't know what YES! is complaining about though. At least he doesn't have to live with the Pretty Princess tag Volourn has had for all these years. If you try to go up directly against DarkUnderlord I would imagine you might get into trouble unless you are someone important like Vault Dweller but you can pretty much do/say anything else. Maybe direct links to pirated games is verboten though. A shame that. I'm planning to upload one soon that is strangely enough otherwise unavailable.

What I find interesting is that this forum has seemed to have become kinder/gentler over the years. Anyone else notice this? People were such angry cunts here a decade ago almost everything devolved into a full on flame war in the first 10 posts. I wonder if it's the Dragon Age loving millennials that I am always hating on who are responsible for the toned down tone. I don't really think they belong here, but if they help keep the discussions more civil at least that's something. Having said that almost everyone here is still a huge cunt, but that's probably true of every gaming forum.

Yeah, because everybody knows, a forum infested with the mentality of 15 year olds is the best thing ever to hope for... lots of constructive dialogue to be had there. SO IMPORTAN to haev, amirite?

 

[l3loodAngel]

You guys are missing the point. This is a PST spirit sequel. Combat don't matter.

If you keep repeating it long enough, you think it will become true?

Of course combat mattered in PS:T. That's the part where you get to see the effect of your character development choices.

So the difference between PST and Dear Esther is what? Avellone? Retards like you are directly responsible for this mess, because you convinced yourself and then intellectually feeble developers that combat doesn't matter and now we have this *Torment* for the lack of better expression.

If you try to go up directly against DarkUnderlord I would imagine you might get into trouble unless you are someone important like Vault Dweller but you can pretty much do/say anything else.

Not necessarily. I used to argue with him a lot and found him quite reasonable, but not always right. I am not a person of any importance here...

 

[Repulsive]

U wot? Going on about cobblestones and PnP Numenera for half the review? Then some random musings about KS 'liez' or some shit.

Putting them in quotes doesn't make them less of lie.
Just because you're ok with being robbed by Fargo doesn't mean it's something everybody should be OK with.

Therefore, eat shit. You're crying more than the detractors of this game. Fuck man, talking bad about something someone likes is like sticking a knife in the very core of their universal essence.

Go fuck yourself if you can't fucking read you miserable piece of shit. I already wrote that I'd be fine with a Roxor review as I know he'd actually do a REVIEW not some random bullshit. Cunts like you are the butthurt ones. I like TToN, I like PoE, I like W2. I also like JRPG's, Witcher series, Might and Magic's(even IX and X). Fuck I even like Dead State(the part with the content anyway, not the 40 hours after that). Some Codex faggot who represents 0.001% of the gaming community being an edgelord or not liking something I do, I give less than 0 fucks about.

What I do care is at least a modicum of common sense when reviewing...no 'scary' sounds? kys you fucking retard.

piece of shit with terrible taste

 

[Mortmal]

Pretty messed up that Sea would try to bully gamers by silencing dissenting opinion, maybe somebody should open up another thread.

It was already pretty messed up when he completely stopped to post here . Back in the day he was even shoutboxing like any "normal" person here.Now he only post on the watch and moderate/censor on steam forum . One more reason people are hostile to inxile here, as i perceive it,sea is now wearing a corporate cog suit and we are suddenly not good enough for him. No one like being considered a reject, no one...They also did their best to alienate most of the codex by denying an interview for ridiculous reason.
The market for torment is a niche market, very niche , but instead of keeping their loyal fan base they spit in your face and do a console version for a public absolutely not interested in those kind of game. I am exceedingly good at predicting failures,even before playing it i knew that game cant possibly sell a lot on consoles.

 

[ArchAngel]

Sorry guys but pretty much anyone posting to this thread would probably get banned from any 'normal' forum. Even me. Hell just my username would be enough. It is true that this is one of the only forums I know of where you really do have almost complete freedom of speech. Well except for getting tagged. Don't know what YES! is complaining about though. At least he doesn't have to live with the Pretty Princess tag Volourn has had for all these years. If you try to go up directly against DarkUnderlord I would imagine you might get into trouble unless you are someone important like Vault Dweller but you can pretty much do/say anything else. Maybe direct links to pirated games is verboten though. A shame that. I'm planning to upload one soon that is strangely enough otherwise unavailable.

What I find interesting is that this forum has seemed to have become kinder/gentler over the years. Anyone else notice this? People were such angry cunts here a decade ago almost everything devolved into a full on flame war in the first 10 posts. I wonder if it's the Dragon Age loving millennials that I am always hating on who are responsible for the toned down tone. I don't really think they belong here, but if they help keep the discussions more civil at least that's something. Having said that almost everyone here is still a huge cunt, but that's probably true of every gaming forum.

Yeah, because everybody knows, a forum infested with the mentality of 15 year olds is the best thing ever to hope for... lots of constructive dialogue to be had there. SO IMPORTAN to haev, amirite?

I don't know about you but being 15 years old was best part of my life. War has just ended and I was still alive as well as my house/family. I call that Incline over before or after.

 

[Malpercio]

A thread where people accuse each other of joining nazi party or whatever would have been nuked and people get ding dong bannu in an instant on any official forum.

You guys sometimes forget that freedom to post your real opinion no matter how retarded it is is a luxury provided by Codex, freedom of speech is not a normal thing in the actual internet.

More like posting like on 4chan in a luxury given by the codex.

Most forum have mods and rules, for better or worse.

 

[Cowboy Moment]

Codex has mods and rules as well - for example, if you start posting links to torrents, they're going to be deleted, and you'll be punished if you don't get the hint and continue. Similarly, CP will result in an immediate ban (I assume, not aware if anyone ever tried).

What it doesn't have, is a variant of the "be nice to people and don't shitpost" rule that most internet fora have.

 

[Mr. Pink]

What I find interesting is that this forum has seemed to have become kinder/gentler over the years. Anyone else notice this? People were such angry cunts here a decade ago almost everything devolved into a full on flame war in the first 10 posts.

10 years ago (2007-2011) was the dark ages of PC gaming where nothing good came out at all, everything was a console port and all our favorite franchises were being raped by EA. It was reasonable for PC gamers to be salty back then.

 

[YES!]

People bashing rpgs for being rpgs and not some console shit with lite rpg elements.

We should waste time bashing popamole crap so we could get "haerdcore" points and only then we could criticize an RPG? That doesn't make any sense.

doing real and significant damage to real rpg developers.

Basic function of a videogame is to entertain you. I symphatize with someone wanting more RPGs to be made but if those RPGs are boring videogames failing on their basic function as videogames, I don't see the point.

What lesson does this teach developers? Make shitty rpg like hipster shit or some other type of safe game that is far easier to make than real rpgs.

Yeah, so lying to make their little special snowflakes egoes better, saying their shitty games aren't shitty will teach them what? To continue making shit games? No, thanks.

It is impossible to have a conversation with retards or people who do not even like the genre.

Of course, not liking a game is like not liking a whole genre. If I don't like Call of Duty, I won't like Doom because, of course, both are completely similar because they are on the same genre.

The only people that seem to be able to string a coherent sentence together are some how drama mad sycophants who are far too filled with rage to have an actual debate with.

A debate involve two sides, if you say you won't engage people because they are "mad sycophants", then there won't be a debate by definition, this is circular logic. Circular logic is the kind of shit people that don't wanna debates use. "I won't have a debate with you because I don't like you, why won't you debate with me?" The areguments about the game were made, you say what you think about them or continue whining, your choice.

Also, I hope you do not think I would write Roqua on my account and then state I am not him.

Hi, Roqua.

Your points articulate my core point. If this site was about wine, you guys are occasional drinkers of Boones and some other shit wine. Whereas I am a wine connoisseur and only drink wine and know all about wine. You guys are tourists and have no place when it comes to any worthwhile discussion about wine.