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Didn't we already have reviews in that other thread, the "essential RPG's to play" or whatever? Just copy them.
 
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Review: Icewind Dale

If you have ever played Baldur's Gate 1 and found yourself thinking "This is great, but I wish it had full party creation, a less confusing area and quest structure, and had a lot more combat and dungeons in it" then Icewind Dale is for you. Bouyed by one of the best soundtracks in gaming, and working off the exquisite AD&D second edition ruleset, IWD was made for those players who primarily enjoy Infinity Engine games for the combat. Graphics range from equal to BG1 quality to significantly better - especially the inventory icons and spellcating animations are a true joy to behold. Note: if you read this review at any time after early 2014, please check if Beamdog Studios have released IWD: Enhanced Edition. These editions often feature vastly improved graphics and additional content and are usually well worth the higher asking price over the standard edition.

I can do a couple more later, anything for the 'dex :salute:
 
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The stuff in the Essential RPGs thread is good, but for most part not what I'm looking for. They focus to much on the plot and the describing the gameplay, like this:

Baldur's Gate II:

Continuing the storyline from the original Baldur's Gate, you and your companions have been ambushed and wake up in the lair of a dangerous wizard who is interested in your past. During an attack on the wizards compound, you manage to escape and must track down your missing companions while travelling through the city of Athkatla in the nation of Amn. Your ultimate goal is to confront the wizard and rescue your companion, but along the way you will be embroiled in a city-wide power struggle which threatens to upset the balance in the region. The successor to Baldur's Gate improves on the original with greater character customization, improved combat (magical combat is the best implementation of such in an AD&D cRPG) and more interaction between companions. Like Baldur's Gate, you can have up to 5 companions.

That reads like a souless back-of-the-box text... What i'm really after here are "why should I care about this game" texts, like this:

Baldur's Gate II:

SO. MUCH. CONTENT. Baldur's Gate 2 is easily one of my favourite games. Compared to the production values, this game provides the player with an amount of quality content unmatched in any other RPG, in my opinion. The diversity in encounters, spells, quests and, well, just about everything makes Baldur's Gate 2 a unique and complete experience. The combat is often criticized on the Codex for not being turn-based. This, in my mind, is quite like criticizing a cat for not being a dog. Baldur's Gate 2 has everything I look for in an RPG: A multitude of quests, vast amounts of unique and interesting loot, myriads of monsters to fight and a story which, while not exactly Shakespeare-material, is quite solid and has one of video gaming's most memorable villains. Oh, and Jarl, it doesn't have one of the best interfaces ever, it has THE best interface ever.

Reading the reviews should be like a trusted friend telling you why you really should give this game a chance, not like reading wikipedia.
 

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The Codex monocle + felipepepe's hard work is really bringing some new (many are 'old' gamers) people "out of the woodwork" so to speak.

It seems as if word is getting around. We may be witnessing another landmark event for this prestigious magazine.
 

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felipepepe can you list those games that still need reviews, including games with reviews you are not satisfied with?
Heh, almost all of the really.

PS:T, Arcanum, BG2, Bloodlines, Deus Ex, Mask of the Betrayer and Icewind Dale 1 are the only ones I'm satisfied with, but feel free to write about them as well, if you got something to say.

Also, where is the correct thread to post these?
Just post it here. We already have 15 pages of derping about the list, no problem in making it about the games on the list now.
 

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Why don't we have a second poll now to casts our vote for which games should be removed from this list (Morrowind, New Vegas, Alpha Protocol, Dragon Age, Baldur's Gate 2, etc).

Or perhaps cast votes for best combat, story, setting or whatever from among this list only.
 

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Wizardry VI

Alright, now we're talking. Wizardry has always been among the best turn based dungeon crawlers out there but Wizardry VI took it to a whole new level. It had everything your nerdy P&P desires needed. It had the skills. And we're not talking about a fucking skilltree or something, no Sir, we're talking SKILLS here. New players got smashed by the vast amount of skills a character could invest in and wow, they sounded so cool. Instead of lockpicking or thievery we got Skullduggery, instead of hiding in the shadows we got Ninjutsu and instead of critical hits we got Kirijutsu!
Then there's the classes. Want to play a furry samurai? Go out there and do it, son. What, you've got a weird fetish about fairie ninjas? Look no further, you have come to the right place. And if you are into rolling your attributes for countless hours, well, here you are. And finally, the dungeons. Man, those dungeons. Sure, even the forest looks like a castle wall, but who the fuck cares if the dungeon design blows you away with all it's goodness? Prepare yourself to get teleported, take a walk through complete darkness and even ride on the river Styx while the grim reaper himself is your ferryman! Hell yeah, can this even get any better? So, son, still not convinced to play the game? How about I tell you that it's combat system is so satisfying you will be voluntarily grinding the shit out of the game? And son, did you know you can export your party after you beat the game and transfer it to Wizardry VII and even all the way to Wizardry VIII? Yup, you heard it right - Bioware did not invent savegame transfers, even though this may be shocking news.
So what's the conclusion? Easy: Want to play one of the best turn based dungeon crawlers out there, that is only beaten by it's successor, Wizardry VII, then go out and buy it while it's still hot. You won't regret it.

Ok. If you don't like the review, nevermind, don't use it then. As long as it convinces someone to play the game, I'm fine.
 
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Scrooge , if you could make it without bullets points I would appreciate, I'm trying to keep all of them in a one paragraph patterm.

felipepepepepepe apparently wasn't satisfied with my three reviews, so he might have some high standards. ;)
What you're talking about? I liked your reviews a lot, but I want at least 2 reviews per game, that's why I'm not "satisfied" with the games you reviewed.
 

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felipepepe alright, I removed the bullet points and squeezed it together. It lost a bit of it's readability but it's so short it shouldn't prove a problem.

Do you think it's ok now, or do you want me to change something else?
 

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felipepepe can you list those games that still need reviews, including games with reviews you are not satisfied with?
Heh, almost all of the really.

PS:T, Arcanum, BG2, Bloodlines, Deus Ex, Mask of the Betrayer and Icewind Dale 1 are the only ones I'm satisfied with, but feel free to write about them as well, if you got something to say.
Telling all the people who wrote reviews for games other than these that their reviews suck is a great way of motivating them to contribute more reviews. :salute:
 

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Please remove that beamdog ad on bubbles iwd review, someone might think hes being serious

To wit: I'm actually serious. I don't want to start a trend of people knocking each others' reviews because that's assholish, but advertising for a product that is not the game people voted for, and hasn't even come out yet (and thus its quality cannot be determined whether you like or despise beamdog's existing catalogue) I think far outsteps the purpose of these things - which is to encourage people to try and learn to love the classics we voted for.

felipepepe I posted an AP review in page 1 or so, I'll do a couple more today.
 
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Review: Dark Souls

More of an action game than an RPG, Dark Souls is heavily combat focused and features only minimal story and dialogue. Luckily, the third person combat is excellent, greatly rewarding player skill while still working off a character stat system. The game maintains a strong sense of gameplay variety by offering a ton of different weapons with different move sets and over 40 different spells and miracles. It is also notoriously difiicult and can frustrate new player to the point of rage quitting, though sufficient practice will greatly reduce the challence.

If the combat is great, the atmosphere is better; the game makes fantastic use of its dated graphics and minimal soundtrack to create a bleak, lifeless, post-apocalytic twist on a medieval fantasy setting populated almost exclusively by undead, monsters and demons. This tone sets it radically apart from the vast majority of RPGs out there; the game is relentlessly depressing and almost every character's fate ends in misery. Other noteworthy features include a tiny bit of c&c, a (rapidly shrinking) PvP and co-op community and a new game+ mode if you need more of a challenge.

Dark Souls's only downside is a truly horrible controle scheme, which can either be fixed with a gamepad or partially alleviated by using the mouse fix. The only truly mandatory mod is DSfix, which adds support for higher resolutions and introduces a bunch of useful graphics options.

To wit: I'm actually serious. I don't want to start a trend of people knocking each others' reviews because that's assholish, but advertising for a product that is not the game people voted for, and hasn't even come out yet (and thus its quality cannot be determined whether you like or despise beamdog's existing catalogue) I think far outsteps the purpose of these things - which is to encourage people to try and learn to love the classics we voted for.

I just wanted to future proof the review, though I don't mind taking the line out and throwing a general remark about HD versions into the review compilation.
 

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I'll use your review, but I disagree on the story & dialog part. Part of why Dark Souls is so amazing is how it tells its story through exploration, items and very short but amazingly well-written lines. Its storytelling is stronger than the vast majority of games out there.
 
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I don't necessarily disagree with that, but I'd never play DS for the storytelling. That's what the other reviews can be for, no doubt.
 
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System Shock 2

Spooky-scary spaceship exploration/suvival game with more zombies than you can shake a crowbar at. The super-blocky graphics from the dark age of 3D nontheless manage to create a wonderful sense of atmosphere. Playing without spoilers is recommended, though you're likely to experience massive frustration at the punishing weapon degradation system and the constant enemy respawns. Features great level design, a number of alternate routes within the levels, secret stashes, stealth gameplay, hacking, a choice of melee/ranged/[magic equivalent] combat and a bunch of freaky-ass enemies that will give you nightmares. Excellently written crew logs abound. Inspired Bioshock in the same way that PST inspired Dragon Age 2.
 

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Great god damn list. I finished to completion 21 of those games. I really need to get around to Arcanum and BG2 one of these days. And Malkavian run through VTMB. And MotB. And Anachronox. Dammit.
 

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