RPGs with good Naval combat and exploration?

[jancobblepot]

You know, something like Ultima 4 or 5 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mjeK8JBBWw


Where can i find something like that?

 

[FatCat]

Risen 2

 

[Morkar Left]

Modded PotC or modded AoP2: CoAS. And there is a modul for NWN2 with nice ship combat called Dark Waters. Maybe Uncharted Waters 2 could be interesting, too. Not much around here...

If ship includes spaceships, try Precursors, Starflight 1+2, Planets Edge, Prospector and ascii-sector.


EDIT: Heres a clip for Dark Waters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE1uzaFoKlo&feature=related Naval Combat is like Pirates and boarding like NWN2.

 

[mondblut]

Pirates of Western Sea, duh.

 

[Carlos' Bitch1]

There are virtually none like the old Ultima games.

Demon's Winter had ship combat, though it wasn't as good. You zoomed to a tactical map, with you as your ship (which had a certain amount of hitpoints) and from there you could fire the cannon (in which the shot could veer off course and miss) and the enemy took their shots back in turn, depending on what it was you were fighting.

There are a number of old CRPG's with space ship combat, if that counts...

 

[Lunac]

Nothing worth a shit on the PC in the west. On the other hand there is the Uncharted Waters series.

Wiki link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncharted_Waters

Japanese shit, of course. The only thing from the series that went global (and was noticed anyway) was Uncharted Waters: New Horizons which was released globally for PC and every console at the time: SNES, Genesis, Saturn, PS1. This is the only game I have experience with in the series. Interestingly, UW:NH is a pretty open ended game. More of a trading/mogul sim, but there is a pretty large exploration factor too. Cool mini games in there as I remember. Like going to a local pub in a random port and gambling away your fortunes.

Jap fag shit, but what ya gonna do? At the time western developers were more interested in making Doom clones and shitty racing sims that anything like this.


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[ScottishMartialArts]

You know, something like Ultima 4 or 5 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mjeK8JBBWw


Where can i find something like that?

The original Final Fantasy had something very similar to the Ultima games. You eventually get an airship though which renders naval exploration obsolete.

 

[Ruprekt]

Suikoden 4 ?

 

[Luzur]

kinda hard genre to find these days.

 

[Heresiarch]

Yeah, Uncharted Waters is the best one.

Unfortunately, only the second in its series has been released in English.

Fortunately, the second is also the best of the series.

The English version is called "New Horizons" and it's only on the Playstatoin, but getting a emulator to run it is piss easy.

Don't let the "it's a jap game!" comments scare you, most of the art design is pretty decent, and all the character portraits are very well done.

 

[eric__s]

Nothing worth a shit on the PC in the west. On the other hand there is the Uncharted Waters series.

Wiki link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncharted_Waters

Japanese shit, of course. The only thing from the series that went global (and was noticed anyway) was Uncharted Waters: New Horizons which was released globally for PC and every console at the time: SNES, Genesis, Saturn, PS1. This is the only game I have experience with in the series. Interestingly, UW:NH is a pretty open ended game. More of a trading/mogul sim, but there is a pretty large exploration factor too. Cool mini games in there as I remember. Like going to a local pub in a random port and gambling away your fortunes.

Jap fag shit, but what ya gonna do? At the time western developers were more interested in making Doom clones and shitty racing sims that anything like this.


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Haha, you don't need to apologize for liking Koei games. They're almost all super hardcore strategy games or historical simulators - pretty much the Paradox of the east, except they got a 20 year head start. The president of Koei has said a bunch of times he prefers Western games and that the games his company makes (Dynasty Warriors and those weird romance games aside I guess) are largely influenced by Western games and history. In fact, it's a company that's fairly well-represented in the avatars at RPG Codex.

Suikoden 4 ?

This is a game you should feel bad about recommending.

 

[Jaesun]

Suikoden 4 ?

This is a game you should feel bad about recommending.

Why? The Suikoden series is fantastic.

 

[eric__s]

Suikoden 4 ?

This is a game you should feel bad about recommending.

Why? The Suikoden series is fantastic.

It's one of my favorite Japanese series! Suikoden 4 is by far the worst, though, and definitely one of the worst RPGs on the Playstation 2. This is partially because it lacks any real connection with the rest of the series and the charm of the previous games, but largely because the naval component is so tedious and poorly done that it ruins everything else. Sailing is incredibly slow and the encounter rate is extremely high. This is a game about traveling - going from place to place to recruit characters - but it restricts your mobility and makes the whole process frustrating.

It is really, really not a good game.

 

[Jaesun]

Yeah, 4 is truly the shit game of the entire Suikoden series. But I HAD to finish it, so I could use the save to get the extra character in Suikoden Tactics....

 

[mondblut]

Haha, you don't need to apologize for liking Koei games. They're almost all super hardcore strategy games or historical simulators - pretty much the Paradox of the east, except they got a 20 year head start. The president of Koei has said a bunch of times he prefers Western games and that the games his company makes (Dynasty Warriors and those weird romance games aside I guess) are largely influenced by Western games and history. In fact, it's a company that's fairly well-represented in the avatars at RPG Codex.

Uncharted Waters is on their gayer side though. I remember trying UW2 and it looked *quite* animuhomofaggotcocksuckingly. They are ought to stick to games consisting solely of series of menus, without some bug-eyed midget hopping around a town nintendo-style.

 

[Misterhamper]

I think your best bet would be Pirates of the Caribbean PC-game with the enourmous Community Build 14 mod called New Horizons.
http://www.moddb.com/mods/new-horizons

Its a pretty awesome game alright, best naval combat there is

 

[felicity]

Uncharted Waters is my favorite Koei series. IMO 3 the better on the exploration front. It added inland exploration, land battle, a lot more new skills, languages mechanic, slave trading, a better reputation system, and many more discoverables.

The art style is awesome too.

 

[mondblut]

This looks infinitely better than this nintentardism:

If only it also omits the idiotic X-men flashy FX of RTK11... Koei, how couldst thee turn thy back towards ye non-gook PC market?

 

[jancobblepot]

Thank you all!


I will try Uncharted Waters. I'm a consoletard, so I don't give a shit about SNES graphics

The original Final Fantasy had something very similar to the Ultima games. You eventually get an airship though which renders naval exploration obsolete.

I've played that game, and was boring as hell. It only has random encounters (so the player can't see, avoid or shoot enemies), there's only one indestructible ship on the world map, and has little to no land to explore.

 

[Misterhamper]

Maybe that airship RPG game for Dreamcast would be good? Got good reviews, think its turnbased

 

[sser]

You can explore the seas in Etrian Odyssey 3, but I don't remember ship battles.

 

[anus_pounder]

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Also, is there an english version or translation patch for the 3rd game?

 

[Tycn]

Silent Hunter 4.

Your crewmen have stats and you can upgrade your sub

 

[deuxhero]

Maybe that airship RPG game for Dreamcast would be good? Got good reviews, think its turnbased

Protip: Get the GCN version of Skies of Arcadia. The audio is compressed and you can't put the disc in a CD player for a funny message, but the random encounter rate is reduced, and that's the more important thing.


If you are emulating, you can also get a high resolution.

 

[anus_pounder]

Silent Hunter 4.

Your crewmen have stats and you can upgrade your sub

What about SH5? I heard it was incredibly buggy on release, but have patches fixed that?