Editorial The Citizen Kanes of video games

[Secretninja]

Citizen Kain was much better.

 

[sportforredneck]

There is no such thing as Citizen Kanes. There was just one Citizen Kane, it's called Citizen Kane.

Because there hasn't been a remake. Yet.

 

[Azrael the cat]

There is no such thing as Citizen Kanes. There was just one Citizen Kane, it's called Citizen Kane.

Because there hasn't been a remake. Yet.

Actually I'd be inclined to say that there are NO Citizen Kanes. Don't get me wrong, Citizen Kane is a pretty good movie, but it's no Citizen Kane or anything

 

[Jasede]

Citizen Kane was boring shit, but I did get an A on an essay about how it influenced future movies.

But comparing it to Kotor - or Ultima 3 - in its influence... there is no facepalm big enough.

 

[Micmu]

Generic formula for "top 10 something games" lists:
- 5 games that deserve to be on the list for credibility,
- 3 games of any kind author liked
- 2 recent mainstream games site advertises/gets "exclusives" from their publisher(s)
Numbers may vary.

 

[sportforredneck]

Citizen Kane was boring shit

 

[bhlaab]

Generic formula for "top 10 something games" lists:
- 5 games that deserve to be on the list for credibility,
- 3 games of any kind author liked
- 2 recent mainstream games site advertises/gets "exclusives" from their publisher(s)
Numbers may vary.

Your formula's a bit off
-2 or 3 recent heavy-hitters that clearly inspired the creation of the list in the first place (Top 10 Sequels to games where Creeds are written for Assassins)

-Obligatory and predictable props given to the most obvious classic cantidates (Super Mario Bros was influential? Y'don't say!)

-A couple obscure games to mine credibility but absoloutely do not deserve to be on the list and are only tangetically related to the topic (Did you know that 1988's Tome of Wizards and Traps vaguely attempted to do fpp before Ultima Underworld, and might have been considered a classic if it hadn't failed miserably and the author of the list wasn't the only person to have played it? Now you do! That's why it's #3 in the list of all-time best First Person Shooters!)

 

[Chefe]

There is no such thing as Citizen Kanes. There was just one Citizen Kane, it's called Citizen Kane.

Because there hasn't been a remake. Yet.

I hear the guys from the Dante's Inferno game are going to do a Citizen Kane game next where you play as the ghost of Kane and you have to slaughter tons of mafia guys who hold the key to saving your love Betty "Rosebud" Sledworth and track your progress through newspapers.

 

[Hobo Elf]

There is no such thing as Citizen Kanes. There was just one Citizen Kane, it's called Citizen Kane.

Because there hasn't been a remake. Yet.

I hear the guys from the Dante's Inferno game are going to do a Citizen Kane game next where you play as the ghost of Kane and you have to slaughter tons of mafia guys who hold the key to saving your love Betty "Rosebud" Sledworth and track your progress through newspapers.

Oh god I hope EA doesn't visit the Codex

 

[ElectricOtter]

Could anyone direct me to a fighting game that is less about spending tens of hours practicing finger-crushing analogue stick movements on a dummy opponent until you learn how to successively cancel 15 moves into each other, and more about learning when exactly to use a relatively small list of easy to perform moves? Bonus Kodex Kool Points if it has trick moves, such as freezing.

It's not exactly SUPAR INFULENTAL, but One Must Fall: 2097 has what you want. Plus p. cool soundtrack. And giant robots.

 

[Jaime Lannister]

Probably Half-Life for pioneering the "interactive movie singleplayer with small multiplayer maps" style of game that everyone and their mom copies.

 

[DefJam101]

Could anyone direct me to a fighting game that is less about spending tens of hours practicing finger-crushing analogue stick movements on a dummy opponent until you learn how to successively cancel 15 moves into each other, and more about learning when exactly to use a relatively small list of easy to perform moves?

Dead or Alive

 

[Chefe]

Dead or Alive?


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*wheeze*

Oh God. Someone recommended Dead or Alive.

 

[DefJam101]

omg doa sucks XD

fucking japanese shit

 

[Chefe]

yea sure fucking japanese shit when I just recommended sf2 and sc1

 

[DefJam101]

that's the idea, yeah

 

[PlanHex]

Slightly less retarded list of influential games: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/top-1 ... down/52509

 

[deuxhero]

When I saw "Citizen kane" and "KotOR" I thought "Twists everyone knows" (You are Revan, Areis dies ect ect.) before "classic"

 

[Balor]

The only game that is truly worthy of being 'Citizen Kane of video games' is Pathologic.
/thread

 

[Chefe]

When I saw "Citizen kane" and "KotOR" I thought "Twists everyone knows" (You are Revan, Areis dies ect ect.) before "classic"

Aeris didn't die at the end of Citizen Kane. She hooked up with whats-his-name.

 

[Rhalle]

Probably Half-Life for pioneering the "interactive movie singleplayer with small multiplayer maps" style of game that everyone and their mom copies.

No doubt.

My vote also is for HL, since it was the first to do first-person vicarious cinematic gameplay (and arguably did it best), and since virtually every game released since 1998 bears its influence.

It's clearly the most important (not necessarily the 'best', mind you) videogame of the last ten years; and it will probably be the most important of the next ten, too.

As all genres converge on cinematically-focused first-person and story, all roads will inevitably lead back to the original Half-Life.

 

[sysdefect]

Could anyone direct me to a fighting game that is less about spending tens of hours practicing finger-crushing analogue stick movements on a dummy opponent until you learn how to successively cancel 15 moves into each other, and more about learning when exactly to use a relatively small list of easy to perform moves? Bonus Kodex Kool Points if it has trick moves, such as freezing.

I like to play Guilty Gear Accent Core. It's probably one of the most solid and most entertaining 2d fighters you will come across, though if you get it for the wii, it is imperative you play it on the classic controllers.

It has movesets that operate around simple stick gyrations (quarter circles, half circles, forward-down-diagonals), nothing too extensive. The most complicated move you will find is a double quarter circle or a half circle back then forward. Also, many of these moves are awesome because many of the characters are awesome, the game does not include freezing but has a variety of other cool shit.

Zappa is possessed by a variety of spirits, that he may randomly call. A ghostly dog that he controls independent of himself, three chained ghosts with which he may haunt the opponent with (causing jinx like interrupts), a sword, and a massive lightning spirit only summonable after certain conditions.

Faust is an eccentric surgeon with some extraordinary powers. Not limited to annoying ass dimensional doors, similar to scorpions teleport kick and a grab bag of miscellaneous shit to toss at you and piss you off with (bombs, little "faustlings" that serve well as interrupts, hammers, and fucking meteors).

These are the two characters I play, mostly, Faust is my main.

The entire game has a distinct rock influence, Zappa being a reference to the Frank Zappa, and is very fast paced and flashy. There aren't any dial-a-combos thankfully, as in the MK games, but there is some definite technical shit.

Also see BlazBlue, the new game by the same creators, in the same vain, but completely new and with many new interesting moves that you may never have thought of. In which there is also freezing and also a new semi intuitive control scheme; light, medium, strong attacks, and then the special drive button which binds all the characters special moves, be it freezing or bounding about. Is also in HD.

 

[Hümmelgümpf]

I, ahem, acquired the PC version of Guilty Gear XX, and it does look like a great game with characters that play vastly different from each other. Unfortunately, God hates Europe, and I can't get BlazBlue. On the brighter side, I am able to get Battle Fantasia, from the same developer. Is it any good?