The Outer Worlds 2

[Fedora Master]

Game will be mediocre at best and forgotten about in 6 months, just like the first one.
Codex will discuss it endlessly.

Mediocre games get forgotten when there is good games to talk about.

No wonder all these threads about shit games get bumped constantly.

 

[Reader]

while someone's output will certainly have a generally accepted "best" work, it doesn't make every other work they've made bad

for me Lacuna Coil never made a bad album

Now imagine that their sound record studio says "You guys are good but we cut your album here and here. Then here are Tori Amos and Justin Bieber, they are now part of your team and will write some of the texts...And actually could you please wear something nice like Justin here? Like baseball cap and hoody. Why so gloomy.."

 

[[UCHIHA]XxDarkSasuke420xX]

will this one have pickle rick????

I FUCKIN LOVE PICKLE RICK

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

 

[Flying Dutchman]

Please don't crop out evidence of the author of the doc. It's like lying. With pictures. There's no telling Tim Cain wrote this. It is a lie.

Althoughhhhhhh I guess Tim Cain would have had to approve the doc, but I didn't peg him for a writer, so I would be surprised if he wrote this.

Anyway, lies.

 

[Flying Dutchman]

will this one have pickle rick????

Pickle Rick was one of the smartest episodes of that filthy series, you heathen

It made me want a pickle-shoulder laser powered by single-shot AA batteries. (Yes, just like the one I use on your Mom.)

 

[Gradenmayer]

I played Outer Worlds after Disco and the writing made me want to kill someone. Like, putting aside the dumbass quests with zero depth and absolutely uninteresting conflicts, cringy jokes which even the local troglodytes can outwit, lame companions where only one character got an actual sidequest- the game failed to write a readable flavor text.

When you read that shit you can appreciate the difference between an actual novelist working on the script and someone from Starbucks writing for below minimum wage without any formal education. Utter trash.

The only good part was salesman with moon hat.

Small budget stopped them from hiring an actual writer or something? Those are dirt cheap nowadays and still not even fucking midbudget RPGs can be bothered hiring one.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

The only good part was salesman with moon hat.

one of the few times that the corporatism critique was handled well

 

[Butter]

McDonald's did it better.

 

[Slaver1]

I played Outer Worlds after Disco and the writing made me want to kill someone. Like, putting aside the dumbass quests with zero depth and absolutely uninteresting conflicts, cringy jokes which even the local troglodytes can outwit, lame companions where only one character got an actual sidequest- the game failed to write a readable flavor text.

When you read that shit you can appreciate the difference between an actual novelist working on the script and someone from Starbucks writing for below minimum wage without any formal education. Utter trash.

The only good part was salesman with moon hat.

Small budget stopped them from hiring an actual writer or something? Those are dirt cheap nowadays and still not even fucking midbudget RPGs can be bothered hiring one.

Obsidian have a hive of neurotic Californian women who all think the same way doing the writing and they don't come cheap. It does offer them PR clout in clown world, though.

 

[Zarniwoop]

Though it would be nice if they could make the gameplay less by-the-numbers & mediocre.

Yeah thats the trend these days, making gameplay better

 

[Zarniwoop]

Game will be mediocre at best and forgotten about in 6 months, just like the first one.
Codex will discuss it endlessly.

Mediocre games get forgotten when there is good games to talk about.

Yeah, that's why no one's talking about Skyrim these days. Or "Fallout "4

 

[Bad Sector]

Now imagine that their sound record studio says "You guys are good but we cut your album here and here. Then here are Tori Amos and Justin Bieber, they are now part of your team and will write some of the texts...And actually could you please wear something nice like Justin here? Like baseball cap and hoody. Why so gloomy.."

If that is what happened with TOW then at least there is hope for the future that Cain and Boyarsky can make something much better.

 

[Roguey]

Please don't crop out evidence of the author of the doc. It's like lying. With pictures. There's no telling Tim Cain wrote this. It is a lie.

Althoughhhhhhh I guess Tim Cain would have had to approve the doc, but I didn't peg him for a writer, so I would be surprised if he wrote this.

Anyway, lies.

Chris Taylor wrote it, but as I said, this was for the middle management bros.

Brian was involved with the vision statement by reading it. I wrote the thing after talking with Tim and the rest of the team at a team meeting. I'm pretty sure all the leads had direct input into the vision doc. We had been having problems getting an approved vision statement, IIRC, and I wrote an off-beat one that got approved. The little blurbs in the FO3 post don't quite do it justice.

The mega-level of violence snippet is being taken slightly out of context. Here's the full text:

That vision statement was written with management, marketing and sales in mind. It was never intended to be released to the public, nor was it written at the end of the project -- things changed.

 

[[UCHIHA]XxDarkSasuke420xX]

will this one have pickle rick????

Pickle Rick was one of the smartest episodes of that filthy series, you heathen

It made me want a pickle-shoulder laser powered by single-shot AA batteries. (Yes, just like the one I use on your Mom.)

LISTEN HERE MORTY YOU AND I BOTH KNOW A PICKLE SHOULDER LASER CANT BE POWERED BY SINGLE SHOT AA BATTERIES ITS INCONCEIVABLE INCOMPREHENSIBLE INCOMPATIBLE IMPOSSIBLE MORTY IMPOSSIBLE I SAY IF I HEAR ONE MORE LINE OF NONSENSE LIKE THIS FROM YOUR CUM STAINED MOUTH IM GONNA RAM MY PICKLE COCK SO FAR UP YOUR ASS IT'LL CREATE A QUANTUM BLACK LASER BEAM HOLE IN YOUR ASSHOLE THE GREATEST THE WORLD'S EVER SEEN SINCE THE BIG BANG MORTY BELIEVE ME

Spoiler

if racist sexist mysoginistic chris avelloone happens to be reading this thread please accept this post as my job application for the outer worlds 2

 

[Flying Dutchman]

LISTEN HERE MORTY YOU AND I BOTH KNOW A PICKLE SHOULDER LASER CANT BE POWERED BY SINGLE SHOT AA BATTERIES ITS INCONCEIVABLE INCOMPREHENSIBLE INCOMPATIBLE IMPOSSIBLE MORTY IMPOSSIBLE I SAY IF I HEAR ONE MORE LINE OF NONSENSE LIKE THIS FROM YOUR CUM STAINED MOUTH IM GONNA RAM MY PICKLE COCK SO FAR UP YOUR ASS IT'LL CREATE A QUANTUM BLACK LASER BEAM HOLE IN YOUR ASSHOLE THE GREATEST THE WORLD'S EVER SEEN SINCE THE BIG BANG MORTY BELIEVE ME

Spoiler

if racist sexist mysoginistic chris avelloone happens to be reading this thread please accept this post as my job application for the outer worlds 2

I can't even

 

[Jenkem]

I played Outer Worlds after Disco

stopped reading right here. writing in both games is shit, for different reasons.

 

[Gradenmayer]

I played Outer Worlds after Disco

stopped reading right here. writing in both games is shit, for different reasons.

I think your reading capability is the issue here then, not the writing.

 

[Fedora Master]

Can't we just close the thread and not talk about this game? We all know it's gonna be irrelevant boring banal shit.

 

[Gargaune]

Can't we just close the thread and not talk about this game? We all know it's gonna be irrelevant boring banal shit.

No, I'm not done shitting on it.

 

[jungl]

first game was extremely forgettable bad borderlands clone. It probably still sold 100k something copies to warrant a sequel.

 

[Child of Malkav]

The fact they even announced this game so soon means that no improvements of any kind have been made. It'll be just copied and pasted, from a gameplay mechanics and gameplay features perspective. Sad. Big names behind projects means nothing.

 

[vortex]

What if turns a 180 and ends up amazing rpg with new gameplay improvements and gud story?

 

[jackofshadows]

It may turn out to be a much better game: first of all as a shooter, with more vast and interesting locations to explore, solid and not overly-exposed loot, equipment but as an RPG or get a good story with these writers? No fucking way.

 

[Roguey]

The fact they even announced this game so soon means that no improvements of any kind have been made. It'll be just copied and pasted, from a gameplay mechanics and gameplay features perspective. Sad. Big names behind projects means nothing.

Outer Worlds was released in late 2019 and won't actually be out until late 2022 at the earliest. Three years is plenty of time for a same-engine sequel.

 

[Delterius]

The fact they even announced this game so soon means that no improvements of any kind have been made. It'll be just copied and pasted, from a gameplay mechanics and gameplay features perspective. Sad. Big names behind projects means nothing.

Outer Worlds was released in late 2019 and won't actually be out until late 2022 at the earliest. Three years is plenty of time for a same-engine sequel.

Plus, the fundamental problem with the Outer Worlds is lack of budget and content. A lot of people bought it thinking it would be a larger game, but they certainly didn't expect anything different from 'fallouty FPS with skill checks'. An ideal sequel would just keep all the current tech and create a larger, more interesting world that can stand up to F:NV.