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[MountainWest]

There's a difference between fucking a topless polygon, and getting rewarded a card of a milkmaid pouring milk on her tits, no? I haven't played Gods of war, but if it's a survival of the strongest kind of setting, hookers are to be expected - as they are in real life. The idea of pin up cards - with the sole reason of providing teens with jack off material - is pathetic. And I'm sure it will be seen as patheteic.

 

[OSK]

What? The women you lay don't give you collectible cards afterwards? How else are you supposed to show off to your buddies?

I got a quite a few shitty common cards and a few more uncommon, but I have yet to get my hands on an elusive V-card!

 

[don_tomaso]

'not even published in English'.

You're wrong. It's being released in the UK too, which surprisingly enough speaks English! Yeah I know, I too thought only America spoke English. And apparently some other countries in Europe get English versions, like Holland, Sweden etc.

Emm not to sound like an ass, but don´t you idiots think he ment the books and not the game (since it hasnt been released yet) when he said that the IP have not ever reached englishspeaking ground..

 

[sportforredneck]

The industry needs more games like God Of War to show you don't have to aim your games at 5 year-olds to get good sales (and the 5 year-olds will probably still buy it anyway)

Pretty sure that God of War is basically aimed at the young crowd who will go "OMG look he cut that guys head off and it's bleeding everywhere! KOOL!" and then there's also "Titties! YAY!"

 

[Claw]

PS:T was mature.

I guess I long for the past, then. So that's why I keep playing DOS games.

I have no problem at all with in-game sex, as long as its done tastefully (e.g. not like in God of War).

And the relevance of that statement is?

 

[Zomg]

"You guys are making us look like jerks in front of the other mediums!"

 

[sabishii]

The industry needs more games like God Of War to show you don't have to aim your games at 5 year-olds to get good sales (and the 5 year-olds will probably still buy it anyway)

Pretty sure that God of War is basically aimed at the young crowd who will go "OMG look he cut that guys head off and it's bleeding everywhere! KOOL!" and then there's also "Titties! YAY!"

...And an action game aimed at an older crowd would do what?

 

[sportforredneck]

...And an action game aimed at an older crowd would do what?

Do you mean older or more mature? Because some older people are still going to get a kick out of a chick fucking minigame because they're retarded.

And to answer the question, an action game for more mature people wouldn't have to include over-the-top violence and random nudity for their enjoyment. Doesn't matter if it's an action game or not. It could include any number of things that makes it more mature.

 

[sabishii]

...And an action game aimed at an older crowd would do what?

Do you mean older or more mature? Because some older people are still going to get a kick out of a chick fucking minigame because they're retarded.

You're the one who named the "younger crowd" so, if anything, you're nitpicking your own statement.

And to answer the question, an action game for more mature people wouldn't have to include over-the-top violence and random nudity for their enjoyment. Doesn't matter if it's an action game or not. It could include any number of things that makes it more mature.

So a more mature action game would just NOT have those things? Great, let's just take away stuff from a game so it seems more palpable to some people. Whereas on the other hand, as it stands right now, there are tasteless elements that immature people like and mature people can easily ignore (as it doesn't at all tamper with the actual gameplay), in addition to the highly rated gameplay which is much more important to a "mature" action gamer.

 

[sportforredneck]

You're the one who named the "younger crowd" so, if anything, you're nitpicking your own statement.

Well actually what I responded to said "5 year olds" rather than say that, I said younger crowd.

So a more mature action game would just NOT have those things?

Not particularly, I just say that as the easy way out of it. Nudity and the violence could be done in a mature way, hell Greeks are shown naked all the damn time, but they don't really go that route, they just go sex button mashing.

Whereas on the other hand, as it stands right now, there are tasteless elements that immature people like and mature people can easily ignore (as it doesn't at all tamper with the actual gameplay), in addition to the highly rated gameplay which is much more important to a "mature" action gamer.

Fuck the immature people, I don't care if something is optional or not, if it's something that's just plain stupid or used for money generation reasons alone(such as controversy) then you kick that shit out of the game.

 

[sabishii]

So a more mature action game would just NOT have those things?

Not particularly, I just say that as the easy way out of it. Nudity and the violence could be done in a mature way, hell Greeks are shown naked all the damn time, but they don't really go that route, they just go sex button mashing.

Well, actually, the Greek gods did seem to have a ball of a time going around screwing bunches of human women.

Whereas on the other hand, as it stands right now, there are tasteless elements that immature people like and mature people can easily ignore (as it doesn't at all tamper with the actual gameplay), in addition to the highly rated gameplay which is much more important to a "mature" action gamer.

Fuck the immature people, I don't care if something is optional or not, if it's something that's just plain stupid or used for money generation reasons alone(such as controversy) then you kick that shit out of the game.

So making more money is a bad thing, now? It's understandable if the tasteless elements actually detracted from the game and dumbed it down (and we know the obvious examples on this board), but that's not the case here. In my mind, a "mature" person would appreciate the actual gameplay beneath the "tastelessness," which he is "mature" enough to simply laugh off.

 

[sportforredneck]

Well, actually, the Greek gods did seem to have a ball of a time going around screwing bunches of human women.

They also appeared as swans and nailed women, they should make a minigame of that then too. I was just refering to tasteful sex anyway, meaning less button mashing sex, more orgies.

So making more money is a bad thing, now?

That depends. You could do something you want and make less money, or you could sell out and do shitty stuff you hate for more money, that could be a bad thing. Using shit to make money is a bad thing in my mind, as in the "tits = money" route most games take.

It's understandable if the tasteless elements actually detracted from the game and dumbed it down (and we know the obvious examples on this board),

but that's not the case here.

So threesome sex for health points does not dumb down a game? Would think differently, myself.

In my mind, a "mature" person would appreciate the actual gameplay beneath the "tastelessness," which he is "mature" enough to simply laugh off.

A mature purpose, I would think, would yearn for something less idiotic and want something with actual substance.

 

[sabishii]

So threesome sex for health points does not dumb down a game? Would think differently, myself.

You mean one single instance in the first game that took up 1 minute out of a 10 hour play time? Or the almost secret area in the second game that most people would miss unless they read about it in a FAQ (I missed it when I played through it)? How much that affected the game!

A mature purpose, I would think, would yearn for something less idiotic and want something with actual substance.

You would rather play a "mature" game with crappy gameplay, than a game with excellent gameplay but has some easily ignorable "tasteless" elements?

 

[sportforredneck]

You mean one single instance in the first game that took up 1 minute out of a 10 hour play time?

Yes. You're telling me one scene of a movie that goes far off from anything that would make sense wouldn't change it for you?

How much that affected the game!

It does. It shows how much whoring out Jaffe is willing to do to get people to play his stupid shit.

You would rather play a "mature" game with crappy gameplay, than a game with excellent gameplay but has some easily ignorable "tasteless" elements?

The obvious choice. But I wouldn't be the one to trust your judgment on what has "excellent gameplay."

 

[sabishii]

Yes. You're telling me one scene of a movie that goes far off from anything that would make sense wouldn't change it for you?

If this particular movie had been 10 hours long and this particular scene been 1 minute long, then, no, why the fuck would I care?

It does. It shows how much whoring out Jaffe is willing to do to get people to play his stupid shit.

Wow! So it shows that the developer is a bad person. And of course this directly affects the gameplay of the game! :D

Tell me, have you actually played this game from beginning to end, or have you simply avoided this game just because of a single "tasteless" scene?

 

[sportforredneck]

If this particular movie had been 10 hours long and this particular scene been 1 minute long, then, no, why the fuck would I care?

Why the fuck would you watch a 10 hour movie?

And of course this directly affects the gameplay of the game! :D

I'm not just talking about gameplay though. I'm talking about the atmosphere itself, you can have the best gameplay in the world, but if you have a game involving skullfucking for example, it'll probably fuck with the atmosphere. Including just random sex horsehit is just stupid and can make something seem lesser.

Tell me, have you actually played this game from beginning to end, or have you simply avoided this game just because of a single "tasteless" scene?

Played it, I don't care if games have sex in it or not, but when the context is for pure controversy then it's just idiotic.

 

[sabishii]

Why the fuck would you watch a 10 hour movie?

Why the fuck would you compare a scene in a 2 hour movie to a 1 minute distraction in a 10 hour game?

I'm not just talking about gameplay though. I'm talking about the atmosphere itself, you can have the best gameplay in the world, but if you have a game involving skullfucking for example, it'll probably fuck with the atmosphere. Including just random sex horsehit is just stupid and can make something seem lesser.

I still don't get how this little part of a game can be blown out of proportion like this. Five minutes afterwards I was too busy killing things with my chain-blades to care - or even remember - about the sex scene. Whatever; this argument is going nowhere.

 

[sportforredneck]

Why the fuck would you compare a scene in a 2 hour movie to a 1 minute distraction in a 10 hour game?

Sarcasm.

I still don't get how this little part of a game can be blown out of proportion like this.

Well I did also mention the over-the-top violence, at the start.

Whatever; this argument is going nowhere.

Indeed.

 

[Ladonna]

Apart from the humourous comments it has gotten from some of the codexers here, it is a pathetic idea, to me anyway.....

I would much rather the time spent on this garbage been used in better directions. I won't write off the game over this fluff, as its probably (Better be) optional. It seems incredibly immature though.

 

[mister lamat]

fuckin' tacky. says something about the devs too.

 

[Ryuken]

Jeez, the nudie card stuff didn't exactly cause that much complaints almost two years ago. I am pretty sure there's a lot more "real" mature content in it than that.

 

[Elwro]

Somehow I'm sure the "choices and delayed consequences" bit will be more than enough to make up for any silly male chauvinistic childishnessitude.

 

[taxacaria]

When sex is used as an instrument of marketing, it's time to look very closely at the quality of the other content the game has.

 

[Elwro]

So, watch the latest videos and tell us what disturbs you!

 

[taxacaria]

So, watch the latest videos and tell us what disturbs you!

Nothing at this time. Some marketing vids, which are available for everyone, aren't a sufficient base to make a final decision.
I'm suspicious, that's all.
Feel free to ask me again when I've played the game.