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Top cRPG to be a cRPG veteran?

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Thinking the other day... What are the top classic cRPGs? The top that everyone, no excuse, should play. The mandatory top list for someone to be considered a cRPG veteran.

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Play? All of them.

Complete? Only the ones worth completing. No reason to push through anything that's not clicking.

There are enough subgenres out there to appeal to most anyone.
 

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Play the cult classic games with die hard fanbases. If the game is still on air and people play it 20 years later then the devs done something right.
 

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Pathfinder: Wrath
Ultima IV V and VI without guides. Ultima II on anything. Ultima VII on original hardware.
The Magic Candle without guides
Wizardry IV
Fate: Gates of Dawn
Fountain of Dreams
Lands of Lore on Ferocious
Fallout 2 unpatched
Daggerfall unpatched...God have mercy.

You don't become a cRPG veteran by playing top cRPGs, you become one by suffering.
 
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Thinking the other day... What are the top classic cRPGs? The top that everyone, no excuse, should play. The mandatory top list for someone to be considered a cRPG veteran.

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I don't think you need to play a particular list of games to be considered a cRPG veteran anymore than you need to fight in a particular war to become a war veteran (any war will do). Play 3-7 RPGs with UI built for keyboards and I'll call you a cRPG veteran if you want.

Now, as for cRPG literacy, that's a different story.

"Bachelors" is extensive familiarity with Kickstarter and post-Kickstarter era games (crowdfunded not a requirement, just that era), "Masters" is late 90s/early 2000s Infinity Engine-era including pretty much all Bioware/Black Isle/Troika games, and "Doctorate" is Golden Age RPGs like Ultima/M&M/Wizardry/etc.
 

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Thinking the other day... What are the top classic cRPGs? The top that everyone, no excuse, should play. The mandatory top list for someone to be considered a cRPG veteran.

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you don't need to play anything of note as a grizzled codex veteran, suffices you fellate troika and black isle in a manner vague enough nobody realises you've never played their shit
 

KeighnMcDeath

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When you have gaming PTSD and addiction withdrawal from NOT playing then we'll call you a cRPG veteran. You can never win the war for there is alway more!





Oh.. games... yeah not rats. My bad.
 

Disciple

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If you've completed, say, >70% of the games in this list, you're probably ahead of most RPG players.

1980
Rogue

1981
Wizardry I

1983
Ultima III

1985
The Bard's Tale
Ultima IV
Wizard's Crown

1986
Might & Magic: Book One
Starflight

1987
Dungeon Master
NetHack
Wizardry IV

1988
AD&D: Pool of Radiance
Ultima V
Wasteland

1989
The Dark Heart of Uukrul
The Magic Candle
Quest for Glory: So You Want to Be a Hero

1990
Angband
AD&D: Champions of Krynn
Captive
Ultima VI
Wizardry VI

1991
Eye of the Beholder
Might & Magic III

1992
Darklands
The Summoning
Ultima Underworld
Wizardry VII

1993
Betrayal at Krondor
Dark Sun: Shattered Lands
The Legacy: Realm of Terror

1994
Might & Magic: World of Xeen (IV-V)
Realms of Arkania: Star Trail

1995
Exile: Escape from the Pit

1996
TES: Daggerfall

1997
Diablo
Fallout

1998
Baldur's Gate
Fallout 2
Might & Magic VI

1999
Jagged Alliance 2
Planescape: Torment
System Shock 2

2000
Arcanum
Deus Ex

2001
Geneforge
Gothic

2002
Arx Fatalis
Gothic II
TES: Morrowind

2009
Knights of the Chalice

2012
Tales of Maj'Eyal
The Legend of Grimrock

2014
NEO Scavenger

2015
Underrail
 
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Play 3-7 RPGs with UI built for keyboards and I'll call you a cRPG veteran if you want.
I already played Rogue and original Rogue-likes :smug:

"Bachelors" is extensive familiarity with Kickstarter and post-Kickstarter era games (crowdfunded not a requirement, just that era), "Masters" is late 90s/early 2000s Infinity Engine-era including pretty much all Bioware/Black Isle/Troika games, and "Doctorate" is Golden Age RPGs like Ultima/M&M/Wizardry/etc.
Pretty much from Bioware? They have a dozen of RPG for console. How about Obsidian?
 
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Play the cult classic games with die hard fanbases. If the game is still on air and people play it 20 years later then the devs done something right.
This is the reason why voting for recent titles during the "best cRPG of all time" should be prohibited. Should be a gap, maybe 4 years.
 

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If you've completed, say, >70% of the games in this list, you're probably ahead of most RPG players.

1980
Rogue

1981
Wizardry I

1983
Ultima III

1985
The Bard's Tale
Ultima IV
Wizard's Crown

1986
Might & Magic: Book One
Starflight

1987
Dungeon Master
NetHack
Wizardry IV

1988
AD&D: Pool of Radiance
Ultima V
Wasteland

1989
The Dark Heart of Uukrul
The Magic Candle
Quest for Glory: So You Want to Be a Hero

1990
Angband
AD&D: Champions of Krynn
Captive
Ultima VI
Wizardry VI

1991
Eye of the Beholder
Might & Magic III

1992
Darklands
The Summoning
Ultima Underworld
Wizardry VII

1993
Betrayal at Krondor
Dark Sun: Shattered Lands
The Legacy: Realm of Terror

1994
Might & Magic: World of Xeen (IV-V)
Realms of Arkania: Star Trail

1995
Exile: Escape from the Pit

1996
TES: Daggerfall

1997
Diablo
Fallout

1998
Baldur's Gate
Fallout 2
Might & Magic VI

1999
Jagged Alliance 2
Planescape: Torment
System Shock 2

2000
Arcanum
Deus Ex

2001
Geneforge
Gothic

2002
Arx Fatalis
Gothic II
TES: Morrowind

2009
Knights of the Chalice

2012
Tales of Maj'Eyal
The Legend of Grimrock

2014
NEO Scavenger

2015
Underrail
Cool list! I like the chronological ordering - It frames how various design trends have shifted in popularity over the eras. That 2000s period looks bleak though.
 

Harthwain

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Thinking the other day... What are the top classic cRPGs? The top that everyone, no excuse, should play. The mandatory top list for someone to be considered a cRPG veteran.

:fight:
Obviously such list would differ depending on individual in question.

I started with the likes of Icewind Dale, Baldur's Gate, Fallout, Deus Ex, Planescape: Torment, Gothic and Morrowind (I got into Arcanum MUCH later, because I heard it was a buggy mess, so I ended up avoiding it on release). These ended up being my RPG classics.
 
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If you've completed, say, >70% of the games in this list, you're probably ahead of most RPG players.
Cool list! I like the chronological ordering - It frames how various design trends have shifted in popularity over the eras. That 2000s period looks bleak though.
Yes, nice list, I have a similar list *1. Specially because Silvanus included Rogue. I think Rogue is one of the main game in cRPG history, but I would include "Beneath Apple Manor' (1978) at the top, before Rogue (1980).

*1 With the exception of a few games, such as Starflight or The Magic Candle, and I am uncertain whether I would include NEO Scavenger, despite I'm aware of their existence I have not played it or watched a gameplay. Therefore, I am unable to provide any comment regarding the game.
 

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