World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 - VTMB sequel from The Chinese Room - coming Fall 2024

[Larianshill]

You forgot Cities Skylines, which is unbelievably scandalous.

 

[Harthwain]

You forgot Cities Skylines, which is unbelievably scandalous.

Wasn't Cities: Skylines developed by Colossal Order and only published by Paradox Interactive?

 

[502]

I haven't canceled my Blood Moon preorder due to morbid curiosity and admittedly, because it was practically free when local pricing policy was in effect. Blood Moon is supposed to be the highest tier but it's so typical of Paradox to introduce an even higher tier version near the release.

 

[Semiurge]

Yeah when you think about it...Does Paradox publish/produce anything that is complete at launch? Also they develop Stellaris/etc right? What else is solely in their production sector?

If a finished game is a hamburger, then Paradox's releases are the sesame seeds that go on the buns. The rest you need to purchase separately.

 

[Roguey]

Couple of new (ultimately positive) glassdoor reviews that suggest things aren't going all that smoothly (I am Jack's Complete Lack of Surprise)

Mar 28, 2024

Great place to grow but is having trouble taking in more famous titles

Programmer
Former Employee, more than 3 years

Pros

Great job security, great projects.

Cons

Production is disorganized in planning the work so often stuff gets squished last minute before feature delivery.

Apr 13, 2024

Brilliant company, good people, interesting projects.

Pros

Space to learn and grow as a developer. Good salary. Flexible work hours. People focused.

Cons

Might expect more of an individual dev than other bigger companies.

 

[Herumor]

Couple of new (ultimately positive) glassdoor reviews that suggest things aren't going all that smoothly (I am Jack's Complete Lack of Surprise)

Mar 28, 2024

Great place to grow but is having trouble taking in more famous titles

Programmer
Former Employee, more than 3 years

Pros

Great job security, great projects.

Cons

Production is disorganized in planning the work so often stuff gets squished last minute before feature delivery.

Apr 13, 2024

Brilliant company, good people, interesting projects.

Pros

Space to learn and grow as a developer. Good salary. Flexible work hours. People focused.

Cons

Might expect more of an individual dev than other bigger companies.

This is for Chinese Room?

 

[Skinwalker]

Daily wish that this shit gets canned and never released.

 

[Ibn Sina]

Daily wish that this shit gets canned and never released.

Why? It being a shitshow will be more entertaining that any game released this year. This is class A entertainment. I can't wait.

 

[Skinwalker]

Daily wish that this shit gets canned and never released.

Why? It being a shitshow will be more entertaining that any game released this year. This is class A entertainment. I can't wait.

Because I love the original and hate seeing its name attached to this abortion.

 

[Daedalos]

Mods will fix it.

 

[La vie sexuelle]

Mods will fix it.

Mods never fixed bad game. Never.

 

[Mauman]

Mods will fix it.

Mods are like spices. They either enhance the taste of something good, or they attempt to hide the taste of something bad.

You can attempt to spice rotting meat all you want, but even if you manage to hide the bulk of the bad taste, at the end of the day you're still eating rotting meat.

 

[Vulpes]

Daily wish that this shit gets canned and never released.

Why? It being a shitshow will be more entertaining that any game released this year. This is class A entertainment. I can't wait.

Because I love the original and hate seeing its name attached to this abortion.

Imagine actually caring about the name. Arkane's Prey might not have anything to do with the original, but it's still a great spiritual successor to System Shock. Far better than Jew Levine's Bioshock and that tranny-coded roguelite he's currently working on. That said, I'm not trying to imply that Bloodlines 2 will be good. I think the most we can expect from it is a mediocre copy of Dishonored 1 and that's the type of game we should be comparing it to.

Mods will fix it.

Mods never fixed bad game. Never.

They fixed Morrowind and made it into a game that can be enjoyed without abusing bugs and glitches.

 

[Skinwalker]

Imagine actually caring about the name.

Imagine actually not caring about the name.

I find it extremely satisfying that "Project Snowblind" was never released under the name of Deus Ex 3, like it was originally going to. Made people forget its horrid existence much faster. Otherwise, every time you'd think about the original Deus Ex, or even its Dance Dance Revolution prequel, you'd have not only Invisible Whore, but also Project Snowbling as a mental hanger-on.

What's in a name? A lot.

 

[Hobo Elf]

Mods will fix it.

I'm afraid you'll need so many mods you might as well just have made a new game from scratch.

 

[Vulpes]

Imagine actually not caring about the name.

I find it extremely satisfying that "Project Snowblind" was never released under the name of Deus Ex 3, like it was originally going to. Made people forget its horrid existence much faster. Otherwise, every time you'd think about the original Deus Ex, or even its Dance Dance Revolution prequel, you'd have not only Invisible Whore, but also Project Snowbling as a mental hanger-on.

What's in a name? A lot.

Names are mainly there for marketing purposes. Everyone that's not an autistic imbecile knows that Arkane's Prey is not connected to Human Head Studios' Prey. The problem with Invisible War is that it was a direct continuation of Deus Ex 1, which Bloodlines 2 isn't. The sole narrative element that's shared between the two games is the WoD setting. None of the characters, locations and plot points from the original are returning, so they're not gonna be retroactively effected by something that's a "sequel" in name only.

 

[Skinwalker]

The problem with Invisible War is that it was a direct continuation of Deus Ex 1, which Bloodlines 2 isn't. The sole narrative element that's shared between the two games is the WoD setting. None of the characters, locations and plot points from the original are returning, so they're not gonna be retroactively effected by something that's a "sequel" in name only.

Sounds like a solid reason to not call it Bloodlines 2, thanks for making my case.

 

[DeepOcean]

it's like watching those meme by balenciaga AI videos

It is the balenciaga Ai after passing through the Google ethics board approval process.

 

[Harthwain]

They fixed Morrowind and made it into a game that can be enjoyed without abusing bugs and glitches.

Never used mods for Morrowind and I was fine.

Names are mainly there for marketing purposes. Everyone that's not an autistic imbecile knows that Arkane's Prey is not connected to Human Head Studios' Prey. The problem with Invisible War is that it was a direct continuation of Deus Ex 1, which Bloodlines 2 isn't. The sole narrative element that's shared between the two games is the WoD setting. None of the characters, locations and plot points from the original are returning, so they're not gonna be retroactively effected by something that's a "sequel" in name only.

That's not true. "Bloodlines 2" implies connection to another "Bloodlines" title (the one without a number in its title). WoD setting can be connected by "Vampire: The Masquerade" part. Just look at Redemption, which was before Bloodlines; same setting, different stories. So using "Bloodlines" without any real connections between the two is simply false marketing strategy.

 

[La vie sexuelle]

Mods will fix it.

Mods never fixed bad game. Never.

They fixed Morrowind and made it into a game that can be enjoyed without abusing bugs and glitches.

Morrowind wans't bad in the first place. And I say that as not a fan.

 

[Morpheus Kitami]

That's not true. "Bloodlines 2" implies connection to another "Bloodlines" title (the one without a number in its title). WoD setting can be connected by "Vampire: The Masquerade" part. Just look at Redemption, which was before Bloodlines; same setting, different stories. So using "Bloodlines" without any real connections between the two is simply false marketing strategy.

It's also worth pointing out that there are a ton of Vampire games around now that aren't Bloodlines. I realize a lot of them have flown under the radar, but they're still there. That said, in theory this has some of the same characters and ideas that the original had, but as with every other sequel that's made by a basically completely unrelated team, that connection is going to be tenuous.