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I was wondering if anyone could recommend a strategy game to scratch an itch I've been having.
I am looking for an XCOMish game or a strategy game with heavy rpg elements. I've played all the usual recommendations such as Xenonauts (with X-Division it is really good minus more rpg squad character development). UFO Extraterrestrials, etc. From Hammer & Sickle to JA I've played them all.
I usually do not play 4x and I am actually not certain I know exactly what it means. I first heard that term on rpgdot about some space game with shitloads of fleets in some space 3d jumble of shit. I didn't care for it. I did like Master of Orion somewhat when it came out originally. It may be easier to note what I can't get into
1) I dislike "generations." I want my characters, not their great-great-grandchildren.
2) I dislike rpg lite - where there are only a couple upgrade options for characters or units or mostly insignificant or superficial character development or itemization.
3) I dislike having to replace units. I somewhat liked Civilization 5 or Master of Orion type games, or I liked the start of the games until I build up some units that then become irrelevant with new tech updates.
4) Full 3D space battles with lots of ships in RT. I much prefer TB in general, but full3D space battles with fleets in RT I can't handle. Star Wolves is good because it had the 2d map you could fight in. But the flying time is usually retarded in those games.
5) Games that steal all your shit. Like Legends of Eisenwald - you work hard getting items and leveling up units and when you clear a map it steals all your shit. I can't do that. I want my units or squad to always be my unit or squad unless they die.
6) I dislike arcade type shit. Like combat revolving around temporary powerups or tower defense.
7) I can't do just combat combat combat combat like a lot of RT squad games such as Red Solstice or the new Syndicate type game. I need some other game mods and things to do to split up the monotony.
8) Cards - I have never played a game with cards in it that had any of the complexity I like. Hard West had a sophomoric character development because of it. I've never played a TCG but I honestly do not seeing one having any sort of heavy rpg elements character development wise or itemization wise.
What I do like more than other things
1) I like in the new XComs how you only have one base instead of tons of bases but the base building and upgrading was really good. I know there are two camps, with people thinking the new XCOMs removed all the complexity from the originals. I disagree. I think they are far better than the originals. I like the more complex focus of the one base and the much needed rpg character development of the squad, and then it opening up psi options and genemods and mechs, etc.
2) I like the split focus of the XCOMs between all the stuff to do. It keeps it from getting too repetitive (besides Long War the missions every two seconds kind of wears you down. But it has tons of carrots on a stick to keep you going).
3) I was just looking at a game called Ravenmark on steam. It claimed to be an rpg so I was looking into and it looked awesome, until I looked deeper and saw there was no rpg elements at all. They call it an rpg because it has a story. That is fucking retarded. A game like that but with highly and heavy rpg character development would be awesome.
4) PC please. I tried various games on my kid's hand helds and even the ones I liked when I was a young man I can't get into now such as Ogre Tactics, FFT, FFA, etc. I did get into Blazing Souls for a bit, but it was too lite to hold my attention.
I've heard good things about a game called King Arthur something or other but it seems rpg lite from what I can see. Any recommendations would be awesome though. I basically have rpg blinders on so do not know a lot about other genres any more. Every time I try something I dislike it. Like Invisible Inc. If they added heavy rpg elements and some base building I could get into maybe.
Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
I was wondering if anyone could recommend a strategy game to scratch an itch I've been having.
I am looking for an XCOMish game or a strategy game with heavy rpg elements. I've played all the usual recommendations such as Xenonauts (with X-Division it is really good minus more rpg squad character development). UFO Extraterrestrials, etc. From Hammer & Sickle to JA I've played them all.
I usually do not play 4x and I am actually not certain I know exactly what it means. I first heard that term on rpgdot about some space game with shitloads of fleets in some space 3d jumble of shit. I didn't care for it. I did like Master of Orion somewhat when it came out originally. It may be easier to note what I can't get into
1) I dislike "generations." I want my characters, not their great-great-grandchildren.
2) I dislike rpg lite - where there are only a couple upgrade options for characters or units or mostly insignificant or superficial character development or itemization.
3) I dislike having to replace units. I somewhat liked Civilization 5 or Master of Orion type games, or I liked the start of the games until I build up some units that then become irrelevant with new tech updates.
4) Full 3D space battles with lots of ships in RT. I much prefer TB in general, but full3D space battles with fleets in RT I can't handle. Star Wolves is good because it had the 2d map you could fight in. But the flying time is usually retarded in those games.
5) Games that steal all your shit. Like Legends of Eisenwald - you work hard getting items and leveling up units and when you clear a map it steals all your shit. I can't do that. I want my units or squad to always be my unit or squad unless they die.
6) I dislike arcade type shit. Like combat revolving around temporary powerups or tower defense.
7) I can't do just combat combat combat combat like a lot of RT squad games such as Red Solstice or the new Syndicate type game. I need some other game mods and things to do to split up the monotony.
8) Cards - I have never played a game with cards in it that had any of the complexity I like. Hard West had a sophomoric character development because of it. I've never played a TCG but I honestly do not seeing one having any sort of heavy rpg elements character development wise or itemization wise.
What I do like more than other things
1) I like in the new XComs how you only have one base instead of tons of bases but the base building and upgrading was really good. I know there are two camps, with people thinking the new XCOMs removed all the complexity from the originals. I disagree. I think they are far better than the originals. I like the more complex focus of the one base and the much needed rpg character development of the squad, and then it opening up psi options and genemods and mechs, etc.
2) I like the split focus of the XCOMs between all the stuff to do. It keeps it from getting too repetitive (besides Long War the missions every two seconds kind of wears you down. But it has tons of carrots on a stick to keep you going).
3) I was just looking at a game called Ravenmark on steam. It claimed to be an rpg so I was looking into and it looked awesome, until I looked deeper and saw there was no rpg elements at all. They call it an rpg because it has a story. That is fucking retarded. A game like that but with highly and heavy rpg character development would be awesome.
4) PC please. I tried various games on my kid's hand helds and even the ones I liked when I was a young man I can't get into now such as Ogre Tactics, FFT, FFA, etc. I did get into Blazing Souls for a bit, but it was too lite to hold my attention.
I've heard good things about a game called King Arthur something or other but it seems rpg lite from what I can see. Any recommendations would be awesome though. I basically have rpg blinders on so do not know a lot about other genres any more. Every time I try something I dislike it. Like Invisible Inc. If they added heavy rpg elements and some base building I could get into maybe.
Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
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