Civilization V is Dead

[Jason]

<strong>[ Announcement ]</strong>

<p>Apparently no one told Sid Meier the terrible truth about Steam (i.e. it deletes your porn) because <a href="http://store.steampowered.com/news/3792/" target="_blank"><strong>Civilization V is going to require Steam</strong></a>.</p><blockquote><p>2K Games and Valve today announced an agreement to power all PC versions of the highly anticipated Sid Meier's Civilization V with many of Steamworks' features and offer a special Digital Deluxe Edition  via Steam. Customers who pre-order the regular or Digital Deluxe editions of Sid Meier's Civilization V on Steam will be rewarded with a free map pack when the game launches in fall 2010.

Sid Meier's Civilization V players will enjoy the benefits of the Steamworks' features included in all PC versions, such as auto-updating, Steam Achievements, downloadable content, ability to access from any computer*, multiplayer matchmatching and more.


*In supported countries </p></blockquote><p>Steam = no sale from me </p>

 

[Higher Game]

Good, because Civ 4 is awesome and should remain the standard. :twisted:

 

[Jim Cojones]

I would probably buy it if not this. Now I know torrent is the only option for Civ V.

 

[racofer]

2K Games and Valve today announced an agreement to power all PC versions of the highly anticipated Sid Meier's Civilization V...

Fixed, given the circumstances. Not that I care though, since if I ever play Civ5 it will be the free version with all DLCs, collector only stuff and limited fggotry shit anyway.

 

[Angthoron]

Fucking Steam. Why the fuck do they have to stuff the shitty social networking aspects into my games, for fuck's sake, I'm not playing singleplayer games to be fucking social you morons. And online DRMs are fun, too, of course.

 

[spectre]

Steam = no sale from me

And I really, really wanted to buy this one.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

And to think my interest grew when I heard it was supporting Steam.

 

[Frau Bishop]

Why the fuck do they have to stuff the shitty social networking aspects into my games, for fuck's sake, I'm not playing singleplayer games to be fucking social you morons.

Heh, true.

Too bad there was no facebook 25 years ago, it would have been an impulse to find another hobby like playing guitar or competitive modern dance.

 

[kris]

My home internet was down for two days. I guess you know what that would have meant.

 

[1eyedking]

Civilization V Videogaming is Dead

Fixed
:sad:

 

[TheCowburner]

Yep, Civilization is officially dead

 

[Fez]

What annoys me the most is when a retail box game requires it. I don't mind if they give people the choice of buying something from Steam or other systems. Just don't force it on people who bought the retail box.

 

[Angthoron]

Well, it wouldn't be a DRM then, really, would it?

 

[Fez]

Indeed, but I can dream.

 

[CrimsonAngel]

OH buhu it is using a steam grow the fuck up.

Steam is a good system over all and it gets a bad rap by poor people becaus they can't afford proper internet so i say fuck them.

Poor people don't deserve to have opinions any way.

 

[spectre]

You sound awfully butthurt over this whole poor people business. Wanna share with the hivemend?

 

[Yeesh]

Meh.

 

[GarfunkeL]

Oh well, down the drain. Cheers for that 2K Games.

 

[M_I_C_K_E_Y_M_O_U_S_E]

What's wrong with Steam that a crack can't fix?

 

[Angthoron]

And online DRMs are fun, too, of course.

I'd like you to tell it to Steam when I'm re-installing my legally purchased copy of HL2. It totally doesn't want to connect and authenticate. Steam is a DRM no matter whether you post "go offline" pictures or images of mudkips.

I'm not saying it requires a constant connection. That's Ubisoft. Steam only requires an authentication once per computer restart.

Oh, and do note the "Only the games that are fully up to date will be available"

 

[Fez]

Let us not forget that if Steam goes and breaks on you during an update or some such then you've also lost access to all your games until you can hopefully get it reinstalled and running again without having to download and reinstall and then update all your games as well.

I've used it for quite a few things myself already, so I am hardly a rabid hater of it, but I don't kid myself that it's got some downsides too. Nothing wrong with being aware of limitations or flaws.

I'll continue to use it for some things and dislike it for others. Forcing me to use Steam for a retail box copy is just plain annoying. I don't like obtrusive DRM, especially as the only people who end up not being annoyed by DRM are the people who didn't even pay for it.

 

[Phelot]

I, too use Steam for some games. Mostly, because it IS convenient if I can't be bothered to get a crack for a game I already own. I HATE having to use DVDs or CDs so having a crack or using Steam is handy. So far I've never had a problem with Steam other then that the browser portion of it broke for no reason, but I can still view games and play them with no problem.

But yeah, this is dumb

 

[Fez]

I read that as meaning you couldn't pick the version you wanted to use, like with STALKER SOC where some people avoid the latest patch but Steam gives you no choice.

Likewise with Mount and Blade if you want to play The Last Days or another mod that only works with one version.

 

[Fez]

You could stick with it by doing that if you had it already and new ahead of time to disable the updates to prevent incompatibility (it should be fine with the offiline and DRM side of things), but disabling the updates won't work if you're just installing it for the first time or reinstalling it as it'll download the latest version, I'd imagine. If you need an intermediary version (like with STALKER) then you're in an even trickier spot as neither the latest nor completely unpatched would be suitable (presuming you could even get the unpatched or older versions).

 

[YourConscience]

I guess we all just need to open up the valve a bit and let off some steam!

But yeah, there's one thing that I fear - that steam goes belly up at some point. I think there should be some kind of law or something protecting our purchases in that case which would make it necessary to put some no-steam patch for every game realeased in steam into some government safe which would be released if valve/steam ceases to exist at some point. Or something like that. Then that would remove my biggest complaint about steam.

I hate CDs/DVDs more than steam though. Because these disappear/break down quicker than steam will.