Hobo Elf
Arcane
They had a very samey feel to the game though. Risen's engine just felt like a more polished G3 engine.
Gothic 1/2 at level 1
Cant even wield a sword, you equip 2h weapon and he barely lifts it off the ground. You meet an Adult scavenger and it totally annihilates you. Every NPC in the game hates you and wants to kick your ass and steal your ore.
Gothic 3/4 at level 1
Doing backflips and spins n shit, cleaving through anything that gets in his way. You can take on entire villages by nonstop clicking the attack button. Everyones really nice and all has a good opinion of you, even the orcs.
Metro said:Gord said:Might try to push forward with the story - didn't even liberate Myrtana yet.
Have fun with that. You're going to need to kill about two hundred or so orcs. Although as a mage you can just use some huge nuke -- a lot less tedious than with a fighter.
Leonard DeVir said:And yes, with Gothic 3 they made a more or less linear ARPG to a sandbox game, where implementing reasonable C&C is more than hard (looking at you, FNV). Gothic always thrived on C&C: choose your allies, choose your path (mage, warrior),... and the world will react.
Metro said:Raghar said:You forgot to tell us what GFX card you have.
No, it's there. You apparently just forgot to read it.
Metro said:While Gothic 3 does have non-linearity it's just rife with poorly implemented game play mechanics that pretty much ruin any enjoyment of the game. The combat is atrocious (yes, even with fan patch), clearing/liberating cities/camps is tedious to the umpteenth degree, awful world design where you could no longer climb, having 99% of chests randomized and forcing you to hunt out X number special chests to finally get special/magic weapons, said randomization basically ruining any point of exploration since even if you found some cool cave with ogres or whatever the loot would be no different than a chest you find five feet from Ardea (the starting area), and well... just countless other horrible design decisions like the stupidly prolonged casting animation you perform on drinking a potion. I understand what PB was trying to do with G3, it was fairly ambitious but -- whether they were rushed or just flat out failed -- they fell on their face quite soundly with the finished product.
I put about 60 hours into it playing the Innos path. I still had quests to do in Nordmar but I just went ahead and pushed to finish the main quest because killing orcs two dozen at a time again and again wasn't very fun and it just felt like meaningless filler.
Risen, on the other hand, was not particularly ambitious. They played it safe. It's basically a modernized version of an amalgam of G1 and G2 both in thematic elements, questing, monsters, etc. And while it has all of the drawbacks of G1 and G2 it has most of the benefits making it a much better game than G3 on the balance of things.
Coyote said:And that's all with the massive number of fixes provided by the community patch.
Really?
Yes, there is a power attack that breaks block (Axe 2 / Sword 7/Staff 8). And you will be using it all the fucking time against lizard after lizard after...... well you get it. Imo melee combat is most interesting in the first half or so of Risen, not as good as NotRs though.Aothan said:is Risen's combat all that fun ?.... if there are methods to break or prevent blocking.
Gord said:Do I even have to liberate Myrtana or kill the rebels in the end?
That's another thing, everything feels so optional.
I think I might have gone on playing but the completely arbitrary approach to the storyline didn't exactly help to muster some motivation.
Raghar said:The only question is why do you have card like that? NV9600GT were available, and you could find NV8600GTS for similar price.
Hobo Elf said:Dunno about melee, but magic is kinda dull.
Ammar said:The Beliar end is probably the most tedious, it requires you to kill Zuben, Xardas, Rhobar and all the orcish leaders.
Phantasmal said:So for anyone who never got it to run reasonably, try 4gb or more of ram and Win 7 64-bit. You might be pleasantly surprised. Sure, it's simple advice but you never know. As you can see, a good video card isn't even needed considering the 9600gt is getting quite ancient now.
Severian Silk said:If Risen is comparable to Gothic 3 then I won't be playing it. Gothic 3 is tedious as hell.