MetalCraze said:But the general consensus on the Codex was that DA:O is an awesome game.
Before ME2 came out
Need moar of my fix.Sceptic said:See, you were much better off having lore conversations with me
Well, any piece of fiction or documentary regarding 1ek and his views on art should therefore be titled "His Derp Materials".The difference is that 1eyedking isn't arguing about the importance of art direction. He's arguing about the importance of HIS definition of art, which if I recall does not necessarily overlap with yours (it fucking better not...). Remember "it's only art if it's made of Noble Materials"?
villain of the story said:General consensus is that skyway thinks Dragon Age is the best RPG since KOTOR.
DraQ said:Well, any piece of fiction or documentary regarding 1ek and his views on art should therefore be titled "His Derp Materials".
"Second, the impressions and mini-reviews were mostly positive. From the 80+ page thread:villain of the story said:1eyedDerp going HerpDerp over a a semi-praising review of a shit game written by one former-content-provider-on-the-staff-turned-jaded-gamer-developer wrote and attributing that to be the general consensus in Codex.
But I guess you could say that the chosen one...
...must choose
MetalCraze said:Dragon Age is the best RPG to come out in fucking years
Vault Dweller said:"Second, the impressions and mini-reviews were mostly positive. From the 80+ page thread:villain of the story said:1eyedDerp going HerpDerp over a a semi-praising review of a shit game written by one former-content-provider-on-the-staff-turned-jaded-gamer-developer wrote and attributing that to be the general consensus in Codex.
But I guess you could say that the chosen one...
...must choose
Trash: It's pretty much the best rpg in years.
Monocause: The game is simply the best done by Bioware since BG2 - compared to everything else, I'd say it's good. To those who can't decide whether to get it or not - do give it a try.
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Look, when I downloaded the game I had very low expectations. I played a while expecting the idiotic shitfest to begin around the next corner. To my surprise I got good dialogue, likeable NPCs, combat that requires thinking, palatable graphics and a story that keeps me happily playing.
Arcanoix: VD, if I may, the game isn't as bad as you think. I'd say it's like a party-based Witcher with a hint of NWN2 graphics.
Killzig: Reading over my posts it sounds like I'm not enjoying the game. I'm actually liking the combat quite a bit, enough that I didn't mind at all replaying the mage origin story to see the different conclusions and enough that I will probably end up replaying that segment again a third time to get that staff...
Multi-headed Cow: It's fun. Still enjoying the hell out of this. Not sure how C&C will hold up since it's seeming KotOR/Mass Effect-esque in that each area is its own self contained chunk, but they're quite enjoyable chunks thus far.
Vibalist: Enjoying this game very much so far. There's too much combat for my tastes, but the combat system is still solid enough. I'm very delighted with the fact that they actually went ahead and made it hard. You can't just wade through enemies or lure single opponents away from their pack anymore. It actually takes tactics now, so thanks for that Bioware.
What I've experienced so far of dialogue, story, NPC's, side quests and so on are above the level I expected. People are right when they say this is the best game since Baldurs Gate 2.
fizzelopeguss: Just finished, game is pretty awesome.
Gay-Lussac: Oh yeah and I just pulled an all nighter playing this shit (to think I didn't go out with my friends to study and ended up on the PC all night Confused ). So yeah it's pretty damn fun, combat is the right amount of challenging (playing on nightmare) and everything else the people who actually played it already said.
I'd say that most people whose names I recognized liked the game."
Excidium said:Don't leave mang. You're one of my favourite gay characters.
Well, there was the poll that made it the Codex game of 2009. Anyway, I agree that there is no such thing as the general consensus on the Codex. My point was that the game was well received and it's the vocal "shit, shit, shit" minority that makes it seem otherwise.Shannow said:From looking those quotes over only one had finished the game at the time of commenting. I can't speak for them but if I'd commented in the first third of the game I would have sounded very positive, too. Over time I could overlook shitty dialogue, samey gameplay/combat and stunted character development less and less. The story got derpier and herpier, too (really hated the last third). By the time I played Awakening I was in full mode.
And "the general consensus in Codex" is, as always, an evasive beast. Simply quoting a few posters doesn't really "prove" anything by itself... *shrug*
I'm not sure it's a minority. In the 2009 poll only 68 out of 169 posters voted for it and in this 2010 poll thread the response is overwhelmingly negative.Vault Dweller said:Well, there was the poll that made it the Codex game of 2009. Anyway, I agree that there is no such thing as the general consensus on the Codex. My point was that the game was well received and it's the vocal "shit, shit, shit" minority that makes it seem otherwise.
DragoFireheart said:MetalCraze said:Dragon Age is the best RPG to come out in fucking years
-This is what Skyway thinks.
Also check out these flip-flops from the second thread
I don't like that poll. It suggests something it doesn't prove. If the CIA kidnapped me and gave me the choice between waterboarding, electro shocks to the testicles or being skinned alive, I'd go for waterboarding. Doesn't make waterboarding good. IIRC, it didn't really have any competition. If DAO had had to compete with Risen, MotB and/or TW2 (all mainstream and not unanimously praised on the codex) I'm pretty sure results would still have been different.Vault Dweller said:Well, there was the poll that made it the Codex game of 2009.
Perhaps. It's difficult with the codex. Do you follow the most vocal opinion? Do you follow it early or later? Do you do a poll? What use is it if the majority of expressed opinions go contrary to the poll results?My point was that the game was well received and it's the vocal "shit, shit, shit" minority that makes it seem otherwise.
Yep. I disagree with "god-fucking-awful" but that's a disagreement of "scale", not of essence. I'd still like to point out that those games didn't have "awesome!" at release and "shit, shit, shit" after a while as the prominent opinions on the codex so DAO seems to be a more special case.I agree that the first third was much better than the last, but many games are like that. Not making any excuses, but stating the obvious. Bloodlines, Gothic, Arcanum, Risen, etc. Risen, for example, was receivedvery favorablylike the second coming of Jesus despite the fact that once you make The Choice, the game becomes a god-fucking-awful action RPG on rails. Same goes for Gothic though.
http://www.rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=38358Shannow said:I don't like that poll. It suggests something it doesn't prove. If the CIA kidnapped me and gave me the choice between waterboarding, electro shocks to the testicles or being skinned alive, I'd go for waterboarding. Doesn't make waterboarding good. IIRC, it didn't really have any competition. If DAO had had to compete with Risen, MotB and/or TW2 (all mainstream and not unanimously praised on the codex) I'm pretty sure results would still have been different.
aboyd said:You know, if it really bugs Codex natives that DA is winning, it might be slightly comforting to note that the poll is almost self-selecting for DA. By that I mean, when presented with a list of stuff to vote for, people vote for the familiar, so popular shit remains popular shit. But just because McDonald's sells the most doesn't mean it's the best.
If we had a poll where we rated the quality of the games on a 5-star basis, it's possible that KotC would get a dozen 4 or 5 star ratings, which might handily trounce DA's 200 3 star ratings.
The poll as it currently stands allows a majority of people who are only familiar with a game that is "pretty OK" to overrun a minority of people who have experienced a game that is amazing.
So take heart. The disappointing results here may simply be a flaw of the poll itself.
Downloaded and played Europa Universalis III for a while.
Fucking boring, and pretty much zero historical fappability, a fact that instantly makes Civilization the better game since its simpler mechanics allows you to focus completely on strategy and deeper thinking instead of watching bars getting filled.
Of course he is. Now one leaves the Codex other than Qwinn. You should knowWyrmlord said:The guy is still here?