I like BG2

[VonVentrue]

I like the BG series, depite its sometimes glaring shortcomings (referring to BG1 in particular here, though I stand by my opinion that it was superior to the sequel in the 'exploration' aspect, I wasn't pleased at all with the on-rails progress through the game world in BG2).

Am I the only one around here who thinks that BG2's graphics are absolutely awesome?

Of course not. Every single game based on the Infinity Engine is nothing short of stunning visually and BG2 is not an exception.

 

[inwoker]

I wanted to write something serious but decided to fight with pillows.
So far I win.

 

[Nedrah]

I just realized that for some reason the hivemind sees Baldur's Gate 2 as a steaming pile of shit.

Thread tl;dr.

Still, I'd like to know where people get that idea. Plenty of us actually see BG2 as one of the better, if not best, Rpgs out there. I know that I played through it more than once, really considering a BG1/2tutu run at the moment. Has to be heavily modded though, so I first need to find out how heavily tutu will limit my ability to add some of the content-heavier mods.

 

[deranged]

Yoshimo and Keldorn.

-A question to you, Keldorn: Do good knights ever find cause to sing bawdy songs and tell ribald tales around a campfire, or is dourness an inarguable tenet of the Order?
-Ha. There are countless books within our Holy Libraries where bored and dreamy scribes have penned petty blasphemies into the margins.When I was younger, I used to sing a little song that would make the brothers laugh...how did it go now, I wonder?
-You're not seriously going to sing it, are you?
-"I knew a girl from a distant world,
across the planar deep,
and to her place, to see her face,
across the void, I'd creep.
Though time... though time.....
Oh, how did the second verse go? It's been so long, I'm surprised I remember that much.
-"Though time went by and long I tried
to satisfy my lust,
no matter where I touched, 'twas not enough
to please my succubus."
Is that it?

Also Zan and Keldorn.

-One must maintain constant discipline and remember the four principles of virtue...that is my motto and everlasting burden.
-Virtue, eh knighty?
-Indeed, little one. 'Tis not virtuous to refer to me as 'knighty'.
-Another human with his shorts in a knot. But I digress. Anyway, Keldy, my mother wrote a book on virtue.
-Did she?
-Oh, yes. A book on the virtues of erotic love. "Sins of the Flesh Golem", it was called. Excellent sales in the paladin's spouse market.
-A wholly inappropriate jest, Jan. You should be ashamed.
-It is no jest. I'll send you copy, if your wife does not already have one.
-Never speak of my wife, gnome. Your lack of respect is appalling.
-Ah, now I see. One of THOSE.
-It is not your place to judge my affairs. You must learn to respect your leaders.
-I do respect my leaders. This has nothing to do with them. This reminds me of the chapter where the paladin first makes passionate love to the flesh golem. What a beautiful scene...

Pretty clear what the target audience for the game was, no?

NWN2 OC was fun but a bit cheesy and waaay too easy with no mods.

PS:T and MOTB had quality writing, but their combat sucked big time.

BG2 is every geek's wet dream come true....

 

[Hümmelgümpf]

NWN2 OC was fun but a bit cheesy

A bit? Sometimes it managed to outcamp Devil May Cry. Which is awesome.

 

[Melcar]

I enjoy BG2. It's easily the best game among my collection. Great atmosphere and gameplay. Hated most of the NPCs though. Don't know why... maybe it was their personality (although I did enjoy most of the in-party banters between some of them) or the fact that there were so few of them that it limited strategic party builds.
ToB is shit, however. A pure mucnhkin fest. Only things I like about it are Watcher's keep (doing it with a 15-18 lvl party is fun) and the whole Yaga-Shura part of the game.

For me the IE game ranking goes:

BG2>IWD>BG>IWD2

 

[MetalCraze]

BG2 is the best Bioware game. Though that doesn't say much good about the game.
Still most of all I like that it had pretty nice c&c and not only among your companions. Also it has a big and varied world from the deserts to Underdark so the game is like a journey through DnD places of interest. I also like that each class gets his own castle/sphere/ranger hut to manage. It is probably the only Bioware game I can see myself replaying.
However it still has loads of classic Bioware shit like some extremely emo companions that you just kill when you meet them just to help your party to get started, often a mediocre writing and generic villains. The good thing - much less of that than in any other Bio game.

 

[Hamster]

What i have to say, is that BG2 have more roleplaying elements than HL2 and that means it's a fantasic game and very good RPG according to most recent codex classification. Also, everyone who don't likes it is a raving nerd unable to deal with games that don't meet his impossibly high expectation.

 

[Hümmelgümpf]

What i have to say, is that BG2 have more roleplaying elements than HL2 and that means it's a fantasic game and very good RPG according to most recent codex classification. Also, everyone who don't likes it is a raving nerd unable to deal with games that don't meet hisimpossibly high expectation.

 

[Humanophage]

As a matter of fact, Baldur's Gate 2 was selected as one of the best representatives of the genre by Codex a few years ago. Unfortunately, I'm unable to find the exact thread, but here is a link to a news article on a different website: http://www.crpg.ru/article.php?sid=9729

1. Fallout
2. Planescape: Torment
3. Fallout 2
4. Arcanum
5. Baldur’s Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
6. Deus Ex
7. Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines
8. Ultima 7: The Black Gate // Baldur’s Gate
9. System Shock 2 // Gothic 2
10. Elder Scrolls 2: Daggerfall

I don't think it's very representative of what we can see on the board: for instance, Baldur's Gate I is often viciously attacked. It is also likely that the Codex is growing more elitist and disillusioned with time, and would assault some of the less extravagant games as the users of the forum get more and more tired of fantasy.

Personally, I liked the game quite a bit. I'm not sure if it's adequate to accuse it of being a dungeon crawl - in fact, most of the fans of the game paid less attention to combat and more to character interaction than many Fallout I and Fallout II fans did, judging by their comments on popular sites (it sometimes seems as if some Fallout fans were playing a simple version of Jagged Alliance, not an RPG renowned for its non-linearity and dialogues). I also didn't find Baldur's Gate excessively whiny. Many JRPGs are emo and cheesy, but Baldur's Gate? It's neither too romantic nor too macho.

 

[The Vanished One]

I like BG2. It's huge, mostly interesting, quite varied. Story, characters and dialogue are nowhere near PS:T level, but also not nearly as bad as Oblivion's. I enjoyed the combat for the most part, although I don't really have high standards in that regard. A good game overall, I have enjoyed it.

 

[The Vanished One]

You should stop posting :wink:

 

[JarlFrank]

shall i make a new top 10 codex RPG's thread? or of the mods should do it, as to generate more traffic and votes :>

I don't think we need this yet. Not before I have created 10 CRPGs :conspiracy:

 

[Melcar]

The romances in BG2 where very stereotypical whiny bullshit.

 

[Pastel]

I made one about an year ago:
http://www.rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic ... highlight=
If you want to make another one, wait until SoZ is played, because it might have a shot. Unlike the crap that is to be released next year.

 

[MetalCraze]

I'm sure Fallout3 will be voted into the Top10

 

[Pastel]

On the 28th.

 

[Korgan]

Gentlemen, I strongly suspect that we're all niggers posting in a troll thread.

 

[MetalCraze]

What? Do you actually mean we are codex members posting in a usual codex thread?

 

[deranged]

---Sings happily--- ...I like BG2 and I cannot lie...You other brothers can't deny...

...Baldur's Gate I is often viciously attacked...

There is a reason for that, BG1 unlike BG2 was a yawn-fest in clearing the wilderness areas,
had soulless NPCs and only a handful of interesting challenges / encounters. Well-above titles like Fable or Oblivion, but still overrated.

However it still has loads of classic Bioware shit like some extremely emo companions that you just kill when you meet them just to help your party to get started...

I am not sure I understand this bit, care to elaborate?

...often a mediocre writing...

again care to elaborate ? Mediocre compared to what ? Comparing it to PS:T, which was basically literature in the form of a CRPG, doesn't explain much and PS:T it still only a single game. Can you reference a few CRPGs that had better dialogue?

...and generic villains...

Who ? Irenicus? Bodhi?

 

[Volourn]

"Because it's basically a dungeon crawler. Dialogs are basic, inconsequential and short. If BG 2 would have real dialogs then it would be a top game, most definitely."

You are dumb. You might have a popint with BG1; but not BG2. Its dialogues ar eoften of solid length, and far from basic or inconsequential. Tool.

 

[Melcar]

Dammit! Now I have the urge to replay the damn thing again.

 

[Xi]

BG 2 is a fine RPG. Who wouldn't kill(Or go suicide bombing) for a similar experience these days?

 

[Quilty]

I really hated the level-draining vampires.

But seriously, I enjoyed the game for what it seemed to offer: a decent story, nice followers (if at times too emo/irritating), a good combat system, even though I found it wasn't anything too exciting or memorable. However,today I'd kill for another such game. I can't stand the mediocrity that is being lauded as original these days.

I can't wait for AoD.

 

[Volourn]

"I really hated the level-draining vampires."

That's because you are a pussy, and a retarded all rolled up into one.


"I can't stand the mediocrity that is being lauded as original these days."

Brainwashed moronic tool mimicing retards who are blinded by the overrated past.