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The way he's gone since NV, it's for the best.The way JS completely ignores the idea of Fallout NV2 is sad. For whatever reason he prefers not to mention it.
The way he's gone since NV, it's for the best.The way JS completely ignores the idea of Fallout NV2 is sad. For whatever reason he prefers not to mention it.
KOTOR 2 - 86 Critic score/8.8 user scoreIsn't Pentiment the highest rated Obsidian game by both critics and customers?
Pillars of Eternity - 89 Critic score
Deadfire paid the interest on that loan.Pillars of Eternity - 89 Critic score
was "moving in" a thing in 1600-1700s? to be spoken so liberally in a random convo
was "moving in" a thing in 1600-1700s? to be spoken so liberally in a random convo
Marriage ceremony was for a long time a thing only rich people did. Commoners were usually just agreeing that they want to be together and then moving in and that was it. However during that time period the ceremony customs might be already gaining popularity among commoners, it's something one has to check out to be sure.
The Good Wyfe Wold A Pylgremage’, an anonymous fifteenth-century conduct poem for women, emphasizes
the importance of making sure that a marriage was arranged legally and bindingly:
‘Daughter, one thing I forbid you: do not swear. / Keep your hands and give no troth, for
weddings are unsure. / He is a fool that will be bound while he may forbear. / A lovely
looking and a purse make fools here and there. / With an O and an I, try before ever you trust;
/ When the deed is done, it is too late to say “Had I known”!’
The poem warns that a woman who thought she had made a binding contract might
yet find herself abandoned. This advice was entirely reasonable in late medieval
England, when the issue of what constituted a binding marriage contract could be
very complicated, filling the ecclesiastical courts with couples who had conflicting
ideas about how far they had committed themselves.14 The Celys’ efforts to extricate
Robert from his match show exactly what the conduct literature for women warned
against (if from the other side of the transaction) — a young man trying to escape
from a contract into which he had entered. The poem may also express parental
concern about the fact that, according to canon law, medieval women and men of
age could bind themselves simply by swearing vows to each other, without any
parental supervision or control
I didn't mean to ask "if moving in in place of marriage was a thing?", I meant to ask "if moving in/living together pre-marriage was a thing?" as it is like in modern timez which is what I understood from that Deadfire convo which made it seem out of place for me. But I guess if the former was in fact a thing, the writer coulda meant that which I doubt.
Needless to say, you've given the matter more thought than any of Obsidian's writers did.I didn't mean to ask "if moving in in place of marriage was a thing?", I meant to ask "if moving in/living together pre-marriage was a thing?" as it is like in modern timez which is what I understood from that Deadfire convo which made it seem out of place for me. But I guess if the former was in fact a thing, the writer coulda meant that which I doubt.
This is a more difficult question due to a lesser number of sources and lesser human mobility. When most people marry a girl next door from their village, then moving in before marriage would be something functionally different to what it is today, especially considering how most houselholds were multi-generational. I don't know the answer to this.
This. There's zero chance the writers researched anything (for all of Sawyer's many flaws, that's something he at least used to do); they just wrote something in their standard 21st century California parlance and called it a day.Needless to say, you've given the matter more thought than any of Obsidian's writers did.I didn't mean to ask "if moving in in place of marriage was a thing?", I meant to ask "if moving in/living together pre-marriage was a thing?" as it is like in modern timez which is what I understood from that Deadfire convo which made it seem out of place for me. But I guess if the former was in fact a thing, the writer coulda meant that which I doubt.
This is a more difficult question due to a lesser number of sources and lesser human mobility. When most people marry a girl next door from their village, then moving in before marriage would be something functionally different to what it is today, especially considering how most houselholds were multi-generational. I don't know the answer to this.
I don't think that's fair, really. The guy's a capable designer and one of the more structured and technical ones around, his typical hyper-focused exhibition talks are far more interesting than the usual "so then we did this vague thing, and then we kinda thought about that abstract concept, and then..." The problem is that, despite that trendy faux-modesty, he's kinda pigheaded about his ideas and not very receptive to feedback.Eh, the guy is shit. I'm glad more people are realizing it. There was a time when I was one of the few.
It is very easy to answer. We have a vast amount of court sentences from these times, at least from Sweden during its great power days, 16-18 century. After converting to protestantism and fighting basically holy wars against German and Russian heatens religious law went almost to old testament level. If a girl got pregnant they both would be forced to marry, we know this because of surviving records, if they already were married they were sentenced and punished. The people at the time were living in small community were the priest was a powerful figure and also the central states local man. The priest decided which men got round up in to the army, delivered the news from central power etc etc. Carl the twelve were also a very pios man which just added the strength of religious laws. Soldiers caught having sex with animals were executed for breaking gods law.I didn't mean to ask "if moving in in place of marriage was a thing?", I meant to ask "if moving in/living together pre-marriage was a thing?" as it is like in modern timez which is what I understood from that Deadfire convo which made it seem out of place for me. But I guess if the former was in fact a thing, the writer coulda meant that which I doubt.
This is a more difficult question due to a lesser number of sources and lesser human mobility. When most people marry a girl next door from their village, then moving in before marriage would be something functionally different to what it is today, especially considering how most houselholds were multi-generational. I don't know the answer to this.
It is very easy to answer. We have a vast amount of court sentences from these times, at least from Sweden during its great power days, 16-18 century. After converting to protestantism and fighting basically holy wars against German and Russian heatens religious law went almost to old testament level. If a girl got pregnant they both would be forced to marry, we know this because of surviving records, if they already were married they were sentenced and punished. The people at the time were living in small community were the priest was a powerful figure and also the central states local man. The priest decided which men got round up in to the army, delivered the news from central power etc etc. Carl the twelve were also a very pios man which just added the strength of religious laws. Soldiers caught having sex with animals were executed for breaking gods law.I didn't mean to ask "if moving in in place of marriage was a thing?", I meant to ask "if moving in/living together pre-marriage was a thing?" as it is like in modern timez which is what I understood from that Deadfire convo which made it seem out of place for me. But I guess if the former was in fact a thing, the writer coulda meant that which I doubt.
This is a more difficult question due to a lesser number of sources and lesser human mobility. When most people marry a girl next door from their village, then moving in before marriage would be something functionally different to what it is today, especially considering how most houselholds were multi-generational. I don't know the answer to this.
And on moving in. Farms were the economic units of the time. Now there exist a range from wealthy farmer to a worker in a shed working on rented land. But the general rule were that you had to be able to support yourself. Otherwise you can just stay as a paid servant for an actual farmer family, hired hands.
and then her father and brothers will cave your skull inIt is very easy to answer. We have a vast amount of court sentences from these times, at least from Sweden during its great power days, 16-18 century. After converting to protestantism and fighting basically holy wars against German and Russian heatens religious law went almost to old testament level. If a girl got pregnant they both would be forced to marry, we know this because of surviving records, if they already were married they were sentenced and punished. The people at the time were living in small community were the priest was a powerful figure and also the central states local man. The priest decided which men got round up in to the army, delivered the news from central power etc etc. Carl the twelve were also a very pios man which just added the strength of religious laws. Soldiers caught having sex with animals were executed for breaking gods law.I didn't mean to ask "if moving in in place of marriage was a thing?", I meant to ask "if moving in/living together pre-marriage was a thing?" as it is like in modern timez which is what I understood from that Deadfire convo which made it seem out of place for me. But I guess if the former was in fact a thing, the writer coulda meant that which I doubt.
This is a more difficult question due to a lesser number of sources and lesser human mobility. When most people marry a girl next door from their village, then moving in before marriage would be something functionally different to what it is today, especially considering how most houselholds were multi-generational. I don't know the answer to this.
And on moving in. Farms were the economic units of the time. Now there exist a range from wealthy farmer to a worker in a shed working on rented land. But the general rule were that you had to be able to support yourself. Otherwise you can just stay as a paid servant for an actual farmer family, hired hands.
You can get a girl pregnant without cohabitation. Forest meadows are a good place too.
and then her father and brothers will cave your skull in
Much like Grimrock on its day, PoE benefitted from being a pretty game that also had the benefit of it making you look like a "hardcore crpg player", but people then realized why they didn't liked their respective genres after like 15 minutes of it.Pillars of Eternity - 89 Critic score
It's not about the how. Ita about that someone will need to answer for it afterward once shes pregnant. There will be an investigation in the local court calling witnesses. And sense these are tight knit communities there will be no problem getting answers.You can get a girl pregnant without cohabitation. Forest meadows are a good place too.