Legend of Grimrock 2

[Cyberarmy]

Best race is probably the ratlings thanks to their "Mutator" trait. It's random but still +1 stat per level.
Minatours can be good with "Headhunter" trait depending on how many skulls around. After 4 hours of gameplay I only found 1 in a secret place.

 

[toro]

Is it just me or do humans seem more overpowered than the other races? Humans naturally get a +10% exp gain and the fast learner trait gets you another +10%, which seems a little much.

Humans are shit, actually, incredibly weak when compared to the other races. 20% xp means nothing because the lvl up formula here is each level costs 1k experience more than the previous one. For example, to reach lvl 10 you need 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9=45k experience. At the same time, human with his 20% bonus will have 54k experience - 1k short of level 11 (instead of supposedly being lvl 12). And the further it goes, the worse it gets. Compared to the other races, humans are nothing. Not sure who are the best at the moment, though.

You are kind of right but personally I wanted to see some human faces in my party otherwise it would break my Immersion™.

 

[Cyberarmy]

Actually I kinda regret my human knight, should have made him a lizard for resistance stuff and becoming the ultimate tank.

 

[toro]

Human/Knight/Muscular(+2 Strength)/Agile(+2 Dexterity)
Minotaur/Barbarian/Muscular(+2 Strength)/Healthy(+2 Vitality)
Ratling/Alchemist/Mutation/Agile(+2 Dexterity)
Human/Wizard/Strong Mind (+2 Willpower)/Healthy(+2 Vitality)

I'm basically cautious that's why I gave the wizard some health.

 

[Lemming42]

I went with Human Fighter, Minatour Barbarian, Lizardman Rogue and Insectoid Wizard. Pretty much the most sub-optimal party of all time, but it was the one I had in Grimrock 1 so whatever.

Mages are invaluable in this game, even moreso than in the first one. A lot of battles (especially ones against those fucking rock monsters) involve the Human and the Minatour pathetically swiping at them for 1 damage, the Lizardman doing absolutely fuck-all in the back row, and the mage coming in and wiping everything out in a couple of strikes.

Also, the special attacks are really cool, at least when they actually hit. I can't remember if they were in the first game or not, but if not they're a good addition.

 

[Unkillable Cat]

Best race is probably the ratlings thanks to their "Mutator" trait. It's random but still +1 stat per level.
Minatours can be good with "Headhunter" trait depending on how many skulls around. After 4 hours of gameplay I only found 1 in a secret place.

There's a skull near the save crystal in the "Eastern forest" map. NW of it, IIRC.

 

[Whisper]

Ice shards spell require 1 Water and 1 Earth magic.

Hmm my mage is Fire Earth
and 2nd is Ice Air
Ice shards is alll 3 lowest icon together.


Share recipes and requirements for spells.

 

[Whisper]

Some spells here:
http://www.grimrock.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7035

Share ones you didnt see in this list please.

 

[SophosTheWise]

I've started playing with the standard party, because I thought I'd only play 20 minutes or so, but now I'm an hour in and don't want to start over because I hate starting over. But really, I'm surprised at how satisfying the game is, immensely satisfying.

 

[Pope Amole II]

Already rerolled once with the:

Anub'arak the Insectoid Barbarian - points into Strength & Vitality - Heavy Qeapons & Accuracy - Quick & Chitin Armor (playing on the hard and decided that my previous minotaur barbarian, while doing much more damage, wasn't capable of tanking shit, hence this protective build).

Splinter the Ratling Knight - points into Sexterity & Citality - Light weapons & Armor - Mutation & Agile (just another tank/damage dealer hybrid, testing which one is better - my bet is on ratling, btw).

Dakkon the Minotaur Alchemist (actually, this was supposed to be either Dace or Darkstorn, but something went funny with my memory) - points into Strength & Vitality - Alchemy & Accuracy - Head Hunter & Aggressive (wanna test alchemist and, since his firearms looked totally shit in combat in my first run, decided to test that 2 accuracy - melee from the back row thingie).

Plissken the Lizardman Wizard - points into Vitality & Willpower - Fire Magic & Concentration - Endure Elements & Fast Metabolism (yeah, lizards have penalty to willpower, but my previous insectoid wizard was regenerating his mana way too slow so I decided to test if fast metabolism will solve that issue; also, 50 resistance from the start should really help him survive any kind of magical ranged onslaught).

TBH, if I wasn't going to make funbuilding about it and had no need to test various stuff, I'd just go with 2x ratling knight for the frontlines, 2x lizard wizard for the back rows.

 

[Infinitron]

Check the "extras" directory in the game folder for an MP3 of the main menu theme. Very heroic.

 

[Elim]

A few questions:

"The four plagues" - anyone figure this one out? I think they're asking for the opposites of the signs, but what is the opposite for "disease" then?

Four Plagues Spoiler

Spoiler

Famine = Food
Disease = Cure Disease Potion
War = Weapon
Death = Cold Resistance Amulet or something with "Cold" on it

 

[adddeed]

Check the "extras" directory in the game folder for an MP3 of the main menu theme. Very heroic.

LoG1 has the best main menu music, ever. Its as if it was made for an epic adventure not just a dungeon crawl.

 

[toro]

Splinter the Ratling Knight - points into Sexterity & Citality - Light weapons & Armor - Mutation & Agile (just another tank/damage dealer hybrid, testing which one is better - my bet is on ratling, btw).

You really want a challenge.

Anyway, my ratling is out of pellets therefore he is useless at the moment.

However the game is really surprising:
- somewhat open-world approach to game world,
- underwater secrets (!?)

 

[evdk]

Finally got escaped from work.

Barbarian - Heavy Weapons/Armour
Fighter - Light Weapons/Critical
Wizard - Fire/Earth
Alchemist - Alchemy/Guns

 

[Zed]

Wow, I had no idea this was released already. I'm glad to hear the initial response is so positive. Good dammit, too many games to play. Give back 2005!

 

[Unkillable Cat]

The underwater segments really surprised me. You need tridents to be able to fight the monsters underwater, I found one somewhere and managed to gain others by killing those aqua goblins.

The main element of the game now seems to be the find the four elemental temples, and find four power gems for each one. Completing this task gives you an elemental Essence, which are to be placed by the Buddha-esque statues in the courtyard of the castle.

(The game statistics tell me that there are FIVE essences and 20 power gems, so keep an eye out for an extra round of errands.)

My party is Lvl 7 now and my Rogue has finally stopped getting one-shotted...now he needs TWO hits before the dies.

Oh, and Fireball is Fire Magic 3 and Air Magic 1 (1236 IIRC) so be prepared to train for that.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

Anyway, my ratling is out of pellets therefore he is useless at the moment.

Buddy of mine was saying guns seem pretty bad. Can't recover ammo for 'em like with thrown/ranged weapons, don't do massively better damage, and can jam. He did say they've got really good range but nuts to that.

I ended up largely just remaking my Grimrock 1 party. Rejiggered the races since I was 75% human in Grimrock 1 and felt like a little more variety this time, but I figured I'd see how the same general thing held up in 2.

Smug, human knight
Bruticis, minotaur barbarian
SMA, skaven rogue
SGC Meltdown, bug wizard

Haven't leveled up enough to really play with stuff though. Just eyeballing the skills and the perks associated with them it does seem like Grimrock 2 is more forgiving about (And encourages?) spreading your points more than 1. Still, I'm going to ignore that and heavily specialize everyone like I did in 1. Smug focuses mainly on getting to heavy armor, Brut is inaccurate but does massive damage, SMA maxes out ranged weapon (Which sadly sounds like it may not have the double shot that 1 did), and Meltdown puts everything into fire magic (and some alchemy since alchemy's a skill now and I love potions). Kinda sad about not taking an alchemist but I really wanted to do the same party.

Edit:

Oh, and Fireball is Fire Magic 3 and Air Magic 1 (1236 IIRC) so be prepared to train for that.

o god. o god no

 

[Daemongar]

Well, seeing as I liked and finished LoG and saw it was completed, I just bought it.

Lizardman, Fighter, Fast metabolism, Endure elements, will focus on light weapons and dodge/armor
Minotaur, Barbarian, Headhunter, Weapon Specialist, will focus on getting heavy weapons
Human Alchemist, Faster Learner, Agile, Focus on guns and alchemy
Ratkin Wizard, Mutation, Strong mind - seems pretty good choice

Edit: realized how bad my party was and switched it around and started over.

Biggest problem so far

Spoiler

not knowing you can place rocks on that plate behind the door after the first teleporter (duh). Man, it's been a while...

 

[Whisper]

Please post spell combinations!

 

[Inquisition]

Four Plagues Spoiler

Spoiler

Famine = Food
Disease = Cure Disease Potion
War = Weapon
Death = Cold Resistance Amulet or something with "Cold" on it

You know what's great? Oviously there are multiple solutions, that's what's great! That's how I did it:

Spoiler

Famine = Food
Disease = Health Potion
War = Weapon
Death = Clothes

I have a question about the Dungeon Part called the "Philosopher's Stone":

Spoiler

Can I solve this puzzle when I first stumble upon it? The one with the cube and the 4 ornate plates on the ground? I managed to make the whole thing glow, but I can't move the stone or do anything else.

 

[Cyberarmy]

I have a question about the Dungeon Part called the "Philosopher's Stone":

Spoiler

Can I solve this puzzle when I first stumble upon it? The one with the cube and the 4 ornate plates on the ground? I managed to make the whole thing glow, but I can't move the stone or do anything else.

You need to think like "Sokoban", just click on it to push on another glowing square.

 

[Inquisition]

You need to think like "Sokoban", just click on it to push on another glowing square.

Thanks!

 

[MicoSelva]

Our first level up in the name of Horned Rat

Spoiler

Shadenuat is Matt Barton!

 

[Shadenuat]

Fight rats with rats. - Matt, RPG Wisdom.

Re-rolled by replacing alchemist with another Battlemage btw. Also changed stats a bit to complement weapons better and added Mutation trait to every rat.