Hellgate: London is back AGAIN

[Stormcrowfleet]

Then proceed to briefly remove from inventory. For science, of course.

I started playing and was feeling it was not the same as what I had played years ago. This thread confirms I was right in my assumption.

Let's say, for scientific purposes, that we are discussing this (not that we would do it). How do you go from removing the item from the inventory to playing the old-school version ?

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

Then proceed to briefly remove from inventory. For science, of course.

I started playing and was feeling it was not the same as what I had played years ago. This thread confirms I was right in my assumption.

Let's say, for scientific purposes, that we are discussing this (not that we would do it). How do you go from removing the item from the inventory to playing the old-school version ?

For optimal vanilla experience, install scientific PCB onto your hard drive err into computer and go here to download the official patches:
http://www.hellgateaus.info/forum/hellgate-london-download-patches/

(SP 1.2 for singleplayer, MP 2.0 for multiplayer)

Now of course this site also offer the Revival Mod itself that comes with an awful lot of balancing changes, if you wish.

For multiplayer vanilla experience, simply go here:
https://london2038.com/

Register, download and install Alpha client. Auto-patch. Done.

 

[thesheeep]

Ugh, fuck this, the framerate drop bug is just unbearable. Every 10-30 minutes, the game just grinds to a 0-1 fps halt for minutes. On a GTX 1070
I'll try the scientific original & Revival Mod to see if that is any better...

 

[fantadomat]

Ugh, fuck this, the framerate drop bug is just unbearable. Every 10-30 minutes, the game just grinds to a 0-1 fps halt for minutes. On a GTX 1070
I'll try the scientific original & Revival Mod to see if that is any better...

I am sure that it will run fine on my gtx580. New drivers are just shit.

 

[TemplarGR]

I really enjoyed it when it came out. It had potential.

 

[Bastardchops]

What if you do not have those discs?

But what if the internet and then your computer has them? Is that really piracy? Is anything really stolen if a man just duplicates the treasure before him?

 

[rusty_shackleford]

The concept of "intellectual property" is an oxymoron and a state-enforced monopoly that is opposite to a free market's goals.

 

[ArchAngel]

Ugh, fuck this, the framerate drop bug is just unbearable. Every 10-30 minutes, the game just grinds to a 0-1 fps halt for minutes. On a GTX 1070
I'll try the scientific original & Revival Mod to see if that is any better...

I am sure that it will run fine on my gtx580. New drivers are just shit.

No, it will not. This is some bug in the engine that existed forever. I played Hellgate Global for a while until this exact bug made me go away. Except for me it happened closer to 10 minutes than 30.

 

[Bastardchops]

The concept of "intellectual property" is an oxymoron and a state-enforced monopoly that is opposite to a free market's goals.

"We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem," he said. "If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate's service is more valuable."

The proof is in the proverbial pudding. "Prior to entering the Russian market, we were told that Russia was a waste of time because everyone would pirate our products. Russia is now about to become [Steam's] largest market in Europe," Newell said.

Gabe manages to make billions not even properly selling games to people and still beats the pirates. Shackleford may have a decent point.

Quotes taken from. https://www.escapistmagazine.com/ne...-Gabe-Newell-Says-Piracy-Is-a-Service-Problem

 

[Max Damage]

I remember playing this back in 2008-2009, was decent for a few hours but nothing special once you get bored of "it's like Diablo but 1st/3rd person PoV!" gimmick. Levels were rehashed and very repetitive, abilities bugged and bland. It really needed at least 6 more months of refinement and devs that actually listen to community feedback. Retarded subscription model also didn't help the game at all.

 

[Farewell into the night]

Never played this. How good it is comparing to Diablo?

 

[Max Damage]

I enjoyed and actually played Diablo 2 to the end, Hellgate is very bland. It's not the worst thing ever, just really mediocre. Good soundtrack undermined by wacky XD writing that makes Fallout 2 look sophisticated. Marksman and Evoker are probably the only 2 classes that get to fully utilize 1st person view, otherwise the game could be done just as well in isometry.

 

[Roguey]

Good soundtrack undermined by wacky XD writing that makes Fallout 2 look sophisticated.

Did you only play the completely unpatched version, because as I understand it, the first thing they did was patch out all the wacky writing.

 

[Old Hans]

Never played this. How good it is comparing to Diablo?

this game was a hunk of shit. There is a reason it vanished.

 

[Max Damage]

Good soundtrack undermined by wacky XD writing that makes Fallout 2 look sophisticated.

Did you only play the completely unpatched version, because as I understand it, the first thing they did was patch out all the wacky writing.

I played version 1.2, it had very bad humor and lolsorandom XD voice acting. Also, forgot to add, the difficulty spikes were very jarring, one of the many reasons I never finished this game.

 

[Farewell into the night]

Just played it. Cool intro cinematic, but didn't like the game.


edit: I played more and it's and OK game.

 

[thesheeep]

I gave the Steam version a thumbs down and checked out the original+Revival mod 4.0 version.

So....

Looks better than the Korean Steam version (some models definitely have better textures, especially the enemies).
Has way less strange MMO-insertions and UI problems (you can still see remnants of it being an online game in the UI in the Steam version, while original + Revival just looks better).
The story itself and what NPCs say/how they look/even their names(!!) is actually different in the original!
The game is MUCH more challenging in original+Revival. In the Steam version, you just get constantly showered with loot and enemies are pushovers. They really did make the game much easier in Korea for some reason.
And maybe most importantly, the FPS frame drop doesn’t seem to exist at all in the original+Revival. I played for multiple hours without it happening a single time.

It is a bit of a hassle to get it all installed correctly, but once you do it, there really is no reason to play the Steam version over the original+Revival mod version.
What a shame.

 

[Luckmann]

Is there any LAN/Co-Op working in any of them? Because the always-online/MMO xD/closed servers thing is what killed it for me the first time the game was released. If I can actually sit down with a mate and play it however the fuck I want, I might give it a new whirl.

 

[TheImplodingVoice]

What the fuck were they doing for the past 8 years. What is this. WHAT IS GOING ON MAN?

Hellgate: London provides a single play environment with the latest version (Version 2.0) of the Hellgate: Tokyo service.
The game provides single play optimized scenario contents and premium support items.

I STILL DO NOT UNDERSTAND!

At some point the chinks picked up the IP, chinkified it a bit with loot boxes and such and re-released it. This seems to be the same Chink version but on Steam.

So it's basically Chinkgate: London now?

They should call it Hellgate: Immortal because it just can't seem to die

 

[theSavant]

Is there any LAN/Co-Op working in any of them? Because the always-online/MMO xD/closed servers thing is what killed it for me the first time the game was released. If I can actually sit down with a mate and play it however the fuck I want, I might give it a new whirl.

Looks like it's Singleplayer only... which is weird considering it was a full multiplayer title back then. They could have implemented LAN-Coop at least.

 

[Farewell into the night]

Looks like it's Singleplayer only... which is weird considering it was a full multiplayer title back then. They could have implemented LAN-Coop at least.

Perhaps because servers cost money?

 

[Elex]

What the fuck were they doing for the past 8 years. What is this. WHAT IS GOING ON MAN?

Hellgate: London provides a single play environment with the latest version (Version 2.0) of the Hellgate: Tokyo service.
The game provides single play optimized scenario contents and premium support items.

I STILL DO NOT UNDERSTAND!

At some point the chinks picked up the IP, chinkified it a bit with loot boxes and such and re-released it. This seems to be the same Chink version but on Steam.

So it's basically Chinkgate: London now?

They should call it Hellgate: Immortal because it just can't seem to die

well i'm surprised we don't have hellgate london for phones.

 

[Serus]

Looks like it's Singleplayer only... which is weird considering it was a full multiplayer title back then. They could have implemented LAN-Coop at least.

Perhaps because servers cost money?

"Servers" for LAN? The issue is not lack of dedicated servers but the supposed lack of any multiplayer option at all, LAN included.

 

[Farewell into the night]

"Servers" for LAN? The issue is not lack of dedicated servers but the supposed lack of any multiplayer option at all, LAN included.

I was talking about the full multiplayer option.

 

[thesheeep]

Looks like it's Singleplayer only... which is weird considering it was a full multiplayer title back then. They could have implemented LAN-Coop at least.

Perhaps because servers cost money?

"Servers" for LAN? The issue is not lack of dedicated servers but the supposed lack of any multiplayer option at all, LAN included.

For that to work, you need to program multiplayer in a way that supports peer 2 peer (no matter if via LAN or online, both is pretty much the same from a coding perspective anyway).
Hellgate: London was obviously coded with dedicated multiplayer servers (while the game is the client), and that server code is most likely not included in the client (in contrast to, for example, Neverwinter Nights, where the client can function as the server as well).

IMO, that is also the reason why it took so many years for the London 2038 project to feature multiplayer - they had to write the server code from scratch.