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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Edition - RTwP incline from Owlcat Games

Discussion in 'Owlcat Games' started by Elex, Nov 20, 2018.

  1. Mexi Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck

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    Thanks for being honest. Almost thought I was an idiot :lol:, but even in the thread, I know people that went to the March early struggled with the dragon. Yeah, White March's difficulty with PotD is superb. Some tough encounters, and I was using choke-points and terrain a lot in that game because I also went early. I know the base game is quite easy, though, so my bias is definitely up there. Just the difficulty felt superb there.
     
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  2. Yosharian Cipher

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    Superb compared to the shitfest that is Deadfire that's for sure
     
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  3. Daidre Arbiter

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    P:K is designed a bit differently. Starting from chapter 2, when map opens with access to optional high-level fights it becomes painfully obvious that lot of them are not meant to be face-tanked if you want your juicy item+exp rewards early.
    Not that Valerie would start to get aggro keeping problems, but things she is meant to engage with will start to heap enough attack and damage to murder her twice in first round.

    Also you would probably notice when archer AI's would stop being forgiving and start targeting lowest AC char. Happens a bit later, around chapter 4 I think.
     
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  4. kelkorkesis Novice

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    This is true for unfair also. In my current playthrough on unfair, I just buff up and right click for most fights since act 4. But I've yet to see a RPG which keeps its difficulty of from early game.
     
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  5. Erebus Arcane

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    That can be a real problem in some fights. In others, it can be used to your advantage : if you make the targeted character run away, the archers will chase after him/her, even if it brings them close to your melee fighters.
     
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  6. ga♥ Liturgist

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    Just entered HATEOT. My MC is lvl20 by abusing the skill check experience option in Pitax (unhappy about it).
    While the companions got to lvl20 automaticaly in the house... mercenaries did not. Annoying bug.
    Also, Honor and duty, the quest for the Lawful good kingdoms, is still bugged and can't be finished meh.

    At least artisans are fixed, got all masterpieces.

    Sadly noone knows where the fuck is Elemental punisher though (bow), did they remove it from the game?
     
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  7. Andhaira Arcane

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    What's Avellone's new module like? Any good? How long is it and does it require a level 1 character?
     
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  8. PorkyThePaladin Arcane

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    Btw, not to toot my own horn or anything, but according to Steam stats, only 0.8% of Shitmaker players completed it on Challenging or above. So I guess just me and Trashos.
     
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  9. Pink Eye Kineticist Patron

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    Avellone's module is just a pnp thing. It's completely separate from the video game. Can only be accessed by buying the high tier editions of Kingmaker. I have mostly forgotten about it, due to how long it took to release.
     
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  10. Trashos Arcane

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    I always have Steam offline unless I am buying shit, so that was someone else.

    Have you started your next playthrough yet?
     
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  11. PorkyThePaladin Arcane

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    Once Shitmaker 2: Math of the Righteous (Munchkin) comes out.
     
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  12. Trashos Arcane

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    The relative lack of mage duels aside, I have to say that I am enjoying my Wizard playthrough a lot. I especially like the ability to customize my spellbook through metamagic, and the need/option to specialize in different types of arcane schools. I am already coming up with ideas about how to improve my build for my next playthrough.

    An idea: It would be cool if there was also metamagic that lowered the level of spells. Certain spells would probably need to be excluded so that we do not end up having game breaking spells on our lower spell slots, but generally it would lead to increased customization and fun.

    On the downside:
    - I cannot seem to be able to make the Quicken rod work. Spells just won't fire when I have that rod selected. The spells won't even appear above my head (as the spells being "readied" are supposed to appear). Anybody else having this problem? The rest of the rods seem to be working just fine.
    - Despite focusing on a Disabler Wizard build, in the Pitax chapter I already feel the need to diversify towards nuking, due to the larger enemy groups.

    I have specialized in Enchantment, Necromancy, and Illusion this time, but next time I will probably replace Enchantment with Evocation. The opposition schools are going to remain the same, Divination and Abjuration.
     
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  13. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Why not Conjuration? It starts off with pretty good disables and then acquires means for nuking.
     
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  14. Trashos Arcane

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    Delterius, other than the awesome Chains of Light, I find Conjuration to be cheesy. The AI cannot handle its best spells. Thus, I am avoiding it on purpose. (secondarily, I also do not enjoy summoning)
     
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  15. Sykar Arcane

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    In terms of enjoyment Wizard >> Sorcerer all day any day for me. I made 4 sorcerers and deleted 3. The only one left is my crossblooded half orc orc/dragon bloodline sorcerer due to the hilariously absurd damage. 70 damge first target Burning Arc anyne? As for wizards, Conjuration is my favorite specialization. Love those free DDs all day long. Longer summon duration is nice and the Acid Dart had some use in Chapter 2.
     
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  16. gunman Arcane Developer

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    I was playing in Last Azlanti mode, having just finished Season of Bloom, when the game crashed when changing areas and the save got corrupted.

    :x

    If you play Last Azlanti, remember to make backups of save file after each play.
     
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  17. ga♥ Liturgist

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    So, HATEOT got ultra-nerfed. They replaced most of the Wild hunts with a few Golems... Why people still bitch about it?
    I made a damn gnome illusionist mercenary (from the start) just to rape the hunts with Weird, and there no need, meh.
     
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  18. S0rcererV1ct0r Savant

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    You should do it with ANY game. Mainly bugged ones...
     
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  19. Mexi Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck

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    I'm playing on challenging at the moment, but it defaults back to custom if you put character retraining option. That might also be a reason.
     
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  20. PorkyThePaladin Arcane

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    The weak retrain themselves. The Porkies retrain Troll and Fey monarchs.
     
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  21. Serus Arcane

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    Maybe everyone who plays challenging+ own a copy from GOG or Piratebay. :smug:
     
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  22. deuxhero Arcane

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    Custom difficulty doesn't have achievements.
     
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  23. Erebus Arcane

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    Finally reached the House. The scenes between Nyrissa and our companions are vaguely reminiscent of the confrontations between The Transcendent One and TNO's companions.

    Still looking for Amiri and Harrim, but I've found the others. Tristian actually turned up, even though I'd killed him in Act 4, but then Jaethal killed him again. And I still don't know WTF was his deal.

    So far, the Wild Hunt dudes aren't anywhere as numerous as I feared (from what I understand, patches have diminished their numbers).

    Just killed the Misbegotten Troll. At first, he didn't seem like a big deal, but I changed my mind when he started repeatedly casting Heal on himself. My fighters barely ever managed to hit him, and I'm not sure how I would have managed without an alchemist to throw force bombs at his ugly face.
     
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  24. ga♥ Liturgist

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    If you want to know what is the blessing you get if
    Show Spoiler

    you give Evindra to Tsanna for a Lamatsu sacrifice.
    It's +4 to strength (the tooltip doesn't mention it so maybe is a bug), +4 to constitution and +2 natural armor. All of this is permanent, pets get it too and stacks with everything!
    Sorry Evindra, but 50 STR was too appealing.
    If you refuse to sacrifice Evindra, you get half of it.
    +2 STR, +2 CON, +1 Nat armor.
    Tsanna best advisor confirmed.


    edit: Incendax already told it nearly a year ago. My last playtrough was bugged and I never received the bonus.
     
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  25. ga♥ Liturgist

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    Meh. They could have least changed the dialogue to let "Tristian" seem an an illusion.

    I finished the game today. Honestly, after all this time (last playthrough was in 2018) there are still bugged quests, missing tooltips (loading screens still saying "press UNKNOWN BINDING for").

    Also sadly they nerfed HATEOT and I think they nerfed the final battle as well, which was ridiculously easy.

    The DLCs were a bit of let down as well.
     
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