Sapkowski demands CDPR pay him more

[Dayyālu]

Perumov

This science fiction duology tells about a distant future in which the "German nation" became the human hegemon in the Galaxy, namely through abandonning its Nazi ideology in favour of a multicultural "Empire Above All" nationalism. The book centers on the quest of Ruslan Fateev to attain independence for his homeworld of New Crimea, the sole Russian-speaking corner of the Empire (according to the books, the overwhelming majority of Russians chose voluntary germanisation over the centuries). All this is set in an atmosphere of uprisings of a federation of colony worlds against the Empire and the invasion of human planets by mysterious alien creatures named "Biomorphs"

It's like my personal dystopia made manifest. Seriously, you Russians have a knack for unending horror.

 

[Hamster]

Perumov

This science fiction duology tells about a distant future in which the "German nation" became the human hegemon in the Galaxy, namely through abandonning its Nazi ideology in favour of a multicultural "Empire Above All" nationalism. The book centers on the quest of Ruslan Fateev to attain independence for his homeworld of New Crimea, the sole Russian-speaking corner of the Empire (according to the books, the overwhelming majority of Russians chose voluntary germanisation over the centuries). All this is set in an atmosphere of uprisings of a federation of colony worlds against the Empire and the invasion of human planets by mysterious alien creatures named "Biomorphs"

It's like my personal dystopia made manifest. Seriously, you Russians have a knack for unending horror.

Nah, that was much later, i was talking about his fantasy novels.

 

[Raghar]

Jacek Dukaj
Robert Wegner
Jarosław Grzędowicz
Maja-Lidia Kossakowska

Kick out Kossakowska and we have an agreement.

She wrote an SF satire on EU in the vein of Space Quest, with a chef as the main character, she stays.

Polish authors that don't have easily to download books, preferably in english are close to irrelevant.

 

[Lagole Gon]

I usually take Sapko's side. Disdain for fans and adaptations is a rare virtue these days and should be appreciated.

But this... this is just theft. This is not his fucking money. What's next? Maybe he should cut his dick skin and try with tenements in Warsaw.

 

[mondblut]

Regarding "deconstruction", it truly felt to me like utter lack of imagination more than skillful use of tropes. Not the "hah, I recognize what the guy is doing" but more like "uhn, this is cringeworthy in its lack of subletly and creativity". Like the trash American comics&movies that throw out GRITTY REBOOTS OF FAIRY TALES FOR HARDCORE AUDIENCES. Likewise for being "mature", Sapkowski reads like YA literature (and probably is) and I can barely remember any adult detail regarding his stories. Maybe they were so irrelevant to be quickly forgotten.

We live in the days when Game of Thrones is the most popular tv series evar, millions of normie bitches are rubbing themselves to 50 shades of lite BDSM pron, and the books for 5 years old wouldn't be out of place in the Warhammer 40k universe (particularly the Slaaneshi-controlled parts of it), so I guess the grimdark wore off its novelty. When The Witcher (not the stupid games) was all the rage, it wasn't so. Much like Cook and Martin, it was a refreshing breath of black and grey morality in the mire of "good is stupid, but prevails over evil anyway" trash.

 

[mondblut]

Perumov

This science fiction duology tells about a distant future in which the "German nation" became the human hegemon in the Galaxy, namely through abandonning its Nazi ideology in favour of a multicultural "Empire Above All" nationalism. The book centers on the quest of Ruslan Fateev to attain independence for his homeworld of New Crimea, the sole Russian-speaking corner of the Empire (according to the books, the overwhelming majority of Russians chose voluntary germanisation over the centuries). All this is set in an atmosphere of uprisings of a federation of colony worlds against the Empire and the invasion of human planets by mysterious alien creatures named "Biomorphs"

It's like my personal dystopia made manifest. Seriously, you Russians have a knack for unending horror.

He started his career with another Tolkien sequel about "elves are manipulative assholes, freedum to teh humans (and orcs too)". And while the Last Ringbearer is a pastiche of spy fiction and an intellectual's mindgame, Perumov literally has the heroes storming Valinor at the end of his trilogy

Still kinda fun tho'

 

[Bester]

but assholes and idiots don't deserve money, so I hope he doesn't get a penny.

I don't even know the name of meritocracy based on your opinion of a guy. This is infantile beyond belief. It's so stupid, this shit doesn't even have a name.

Your self-entitlement is on par with the most hysterical of the SJW. You don't decide who deserves what amount of money, dumbass.

I find it hilarious how all of you are "capitalist" an sheit (law above all), but then suddenly when talking about a guy whose rights have been legally infringed, you're all like "well yeah he deserved that". Such a horrible mess of incompatible ideas in your little head.
And even in socialism, you don't decide who gets what amount of money based on how well they talk about your favorite franchises, morons.
Nowhere does it happen.

what the law says is retarded.

You're only saying that because you're not on the other side of that situation. Which leads me to believe your opinion is not much worthier than that of an insect. You can't think in abstract terms. Not surprised about the

.

 

[Sigourn]

what the law says is retarded.

You're only saying that because you're not on the other side of that situation.

On the basis of what? You made a deal and it didn't turn out as you expected. Tough luck, dude. Like someone else said before, having the law intervene means shitting on established deals. "Disproportionate" my ass, at the time Sapkowski thought he had made a GREAT deal. It's only "disproportionate" 15 years into the future, which is retarded.

You can't think in abstract terms. Not surprised about the

.

I got the "village idiot" tag because I said a certain Codex favorite game was shit, which says a lot about the kind of thing that goes for village idiot in this forum. The game in question was Arcanum, which I ended up beating, which doesn't change the fact it is a pretty flawed game, in a bad way (a "diamond" being "rough" doesn't make it better, it makes it worse, and said "rough diamonds" are usually rough because they are unpolished, broken, and clunky).

 

[Bester]

tl;dr: "I deserve to be compensated for making bad decisions"

It's a good decision to take upfront money (you need to feed family) than to gamble on a very long shot. 99 out of 100 times upfront is better when there's so many unknowns.

You don't understand the basic math of it.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

tl;dr: "I deserve to be compensated for making bad decisions"

It's a good decision to take upfront money (you need to feed family) than to gamble on a very long shot. 99 out of 100 times upfront is better when there's so many unknowns.

You don't understand the basic math of it.

You don't get to bitch about lost opportunity when you took the safe option. You don't understand that you don't deserve to be compensated for refusing to take risks.

 

[Sigourn]

tl;dr: "I deserve to be compensated for making bad decisions"

It's a good decision to take upfront money (you need to feed family) than to gamble on a very long shot. 99 out of 100 times upfront is better when there's so many unknowns.

You don't understand the basic math of it.

In other words: Sapkowski did nothing wrong, and CD Projekt RED did nothing wrong either. Why is Sapkowski bitching, again?

 

[Bester]

There must be no gambling in a solid business relationship.

The contract should've taken into account the possibility of rev shares IF they make a shit ton of money. But neither them, nor he thought it was in the realm of possibility. Had he asked for rev shares if they make $25 million, they would've signed it too. Nobody would've been against it at that point, so he's not being unreasonable either.

Both sides did the right thing, and both sides signed an incomplete contract. And the law allows it to be rectified. Nothing wrong is happening here. The only butthurt people (you) are people who've got nothing to do with this.

 

[Sigourn]

There must be no gambling in a solid business relationship.

Sapkowski's and CD Projekt RED's business relationship amounts to them giving him money Sapwkoski ASKED for UP FRONT in exchange for the I.P.. That's the extent of it. He didn't have creative input on The Witcher (2007) despite CDPR asking him to act as an advisor, because he refused.

Had he asked for rev shares if they make $25 million, they would've signed it too.

He could have, but didn't. Tough luck. We miss hundreds of opportunities in our lifetimes. Sapkowski's mistake, and one I presume he still has to learn from, is that videogames are not "a waste of time" when it comes to making money.

 

[Sigourn]

Bester Sapkowki's grudge isn't against CDPR. It's against himself. But he is not man enough to say "what a shame", and instead has to blame others for making a decision that, retrospectively, wasn't the best. But just as retrospectively it wasn't the best, retrospectively it could have been the best decision he had ever made.

Fact is: at the time he asked for money up front, Sapkowski thought "what a bunch of dumb nerds".

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Bester Sapkowki's grudge isn't against CDPR. It's against himself. But he is not man enough to say "what a shame", and instead has to blame others for making a decision that, retrospectively, wasn't the best. But just as retrospectively it wasn't the best, retrospectively it could have been the best decision he had ever made.

Fact is: at the time he asked for money up front, Sapkowski thought "what a bunch of dumb nerds".

It would be better received if Sapkowski just admitted he was an idiot and asked CDPR to simply renegotiate the contract instead of acting like an angry drunk that blames his problems on everyone else.

 

[Xeon]

Outstar is a former CDPR employee I think and from Poland so its kinda interesting hearing her opinion about the entire thing, still tho I kinda disagree about CDPR paying Sapkowski, CDPR didn't do anything wrong to him and they even tried to have friendly relations with him but he refused as far I know so fuck him, like a lot of people said, he profited from the popularity.

 

[Bester]

admitted he was an idiot

What else should he do? You keep suggestions coming.

Fucking bydlo. Your entire lives you're debasing yourselves in front of your boss for some modicum of food, and all you dream about is being this powerful corporation to debase and humiliate others. And when you can't, you want to do it by proxy.

I remember the story of Tugboat McGuire who asked people to squeal like a pig and run around on all four for like 1 grand for his private amusement. Bydlo in a nutshell.

I feel like I need to depart this planet.

 

[Sigourn]

Whatever you say, Ivan.

 

[Serus]

Jacek Dukaj
Robert Wegner
Jarosław Grzędowicz
Maja-Lidia Kossakowska

Kick out Kossakowska and we have an agreement.

She wrote an SF satire on EU in the vein of Space Quest, with a chef as the main character, she stays.

Polish authors that don't have easily to download books, preferably in english are close to irrelevant.

Sure they are irrelevant to every non-native speaker. And so are authors of every single nationality whose books aren't translated into a language a given person can read. Which means that vast majority of books written everywhere in the World are irrelevant because usually only a small % of books is being translated into foreign languages. English authors are in a bit better position because English is so popular as foreign language and also English is the dominant World culture so it's more popular by definition. But how many contemporary non-english authors of any nationality that isn't your own do you know? Exactly.

Also, as I wrote in a previous post, at least Dukaj actually has one (or more?) book translated into English and available in electronic format, but this is the one I haven't read so can't say if it's representative of his work (which is usually high quality).

 

[J_C]

but assholes and idiots don't deserve money, so I hope he doesn't get a penny.

I don't even know the name of meritocracy based on your opinion of a guy. This is infantile beyond belief. It's so stupid, this shit doesn't even have a name.

Your self-entitlement is on par with the most hysterical of the SJW. You don't decide who deserves what amount of money, dumbass.

I find it hilarious how all of you are "capitalist" an sheit (law above all), but then suddenly when talking about a guy whose rights have been legally infringed, you're all like "well yeah he deserved that". Such a horrible mess of incompatible ideas in your little head.
And even in socialism, you don't decide who gets what amount of money based on how well they talk about your favorite franchises, morons.
Nowhere does it happen.

what the law says is retarded.

You're only saying that because you're not on the other side of that situation. Which leads me to believe your opinion is not much worthier than that of an insect. You can't think in abstract terms. Not surprised about the

.

Oh come on, it's like you have never wished a company to go bankrupt on the Codex. So don't pull that moral high ground shit on me.

As you said, I don't decide who deserves what amount of money. But I can bitch about it in good Codex tradition.

I feel like I need to depart this planet.

Why don't you start with departing from the Codex?

 

[TemplarGR]

All the 12 year old fangirls of CDPR still defend CDPR i see... Makes sense. After all, they only played Witcher 3 on their PS4s and suddenly they became fans... Books? LOL. That is why they don't respect the guy who invented the whole fucking thing...

Bester has said MANY truths in this thread. It is funny seeing how capitalist spoiled brats hate capitalist laws when they don't suit their fancy... Capitalism for them is only good if it allows the US to exploit the third world so they can live relatively rich lifestyles while producing nothing of value. When someone does produce something of value, a whole fantasy franchise millions of people enjoy, then it is unfair to demand more than a few months salary for his work, all the while those who exploit his work get to have their lamborghinis, the yachts, the top model women, and the coke. LOL.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

All the 12 year old fangirls of CDPR still defend CDPR i see... Makes sense. After all, they only played Witcher 3 on their PS4s and suddenly they became fans... Books? LOL. That is why they don't respect the guy who invented the whole fucking thing...

Bester has said MANY truths in this thread. It is funny seeing how capitalist spoiled brats hate capitalist laws when they don't suit their fancy... Capitalism for them is only good if it allows the US to exploit the third world so they can live relatively rich lifestyles while producing nothing of value. When someone does produce something of value, a whole fantasy franchise millions of people enjoy, then it is unfair to demand more than a few months salary for his work, all the while those who exploit his work get to have their lamborghinis, the yachts, the top model women, and the coke. LOL.

Absolutely nobody is surprised the greek demands free shit for people.

 

[TemplarGR]

Absolutely nobody is surprised the greek demands free shit for people.

You must be really young and totally lack an understanding of the world. Leave the "greek" part aside, you don't understand what really happened in the greek economy and i won't attempt to educate your ass here.

What you must understand, is that us, MARXISTS, don't demand "free shit". It is the capitalist class which demands "free shit". Socialists just want 100% of the fruits of our labour, while capitalists say "no, only the 1% gets the profits, you get a sustainance wage, just some food and water so we don't die so we can make moar money for the 1%"...

Remember, (well off) capitalism ends when you run out of third world countries to exploit. Then begins the police state and the hunger and the huge debt. USA is almost there. China Russia EU and other parts of the world won't let the US keep printing useless fiat currency and live a filthy rich lifestyle while producing only human feces and pollution.

Just look around you and try to locate how much of what you use daily is produced in the US kid... You are living on borrowed time. But yeah, keep spewing propaganda for Greece, like all the retards on the internet who only get their news from CNN and BBC.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Absolutely nobody is surprised the greek demands free shit for people.

You must be really young and totally lack an understanding of the world. Leave the "greek" part aside, you don't understand what really happened in the greek economy and i won't attempt to educate your ass here.

What you must understand, is that us, MARXISTS, don't demand "free shit". It is the capitalist class which demands "free shit". Socialists just want 100% of the fruits of our labour, while capitalists say "no, only the 1% gets the profits, you get a sustainance wage, just some food and water so we don't die so we can make moar money for the 1%"...

Remember, (well off) capitalism ends when you run out of third world countries to exploit. Then begins the police state and the hunger and the huge debt. USA is almost there. China Russia EU and other parts of the world won't let the US keep printing useless fiat currency and live a filthy rich lifestyle while producing only human feces and pollution.

Just look around you and try to locate how much of what you use daily is produced in the US kid... You are living on borrowed time. But yeah, keep spewing propaganda for Greece, like all the retards on the internet who only get their news from CNN and BBC.

I don't read posts from people who live in countries that even refugees flee from

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

Sapkowski is a cock, but people acting like they're smart when speaking with almost 2 decades of hindsight are hilarious.

Regarding his books - they don't really hold up today (though pretending that the writing in the games does in comparison is pure prosper), but back in the early nineties the early witcher books were a very fun read for late teens/young adults. That's all they are and there's nothing wrong about it.