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Terenty said:
I dont get why there's so much hype on the internet whenever some old franchise is resurected by a completely different dev. Its like saying there's a new Nirvana album coming out only its Muse who is making it.
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Music and games not really comparable here like you're pretending. It's not like the developer "Bioware" means a specific group of people necessarily because it could be anyone. How many people involved in Dragon Age 4 were important on development of Dragon Age 1? So even Nirvana is no longer Nirvana, by your logic. Artist-driven mediums like that can't really be compared to gaming, which is more team focused and in this case IP-driven.
 
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Yosharian said:
Cross said:
Deus Ex was pitched in 1994, half a decade before The Matrix came out. I also don't see what they have in common.
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Yes but he used clever words like 'zeitgeist' so he must be right
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His whole shtick is supposedly being a person who has thought long and hard about the history of CRPGs ("BUY MY BOOK! IT'S NOTHING BUT PICTURES AND COSTS A BILLION DOLLARS!"). The reality is that he's a weeb living in Japan who couldn't even handle Grimoire.
 
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He's correct though, games living off the beautiful corpse of nostalgia are just lazy and soulless.

But then again, what would an up-to-date BG3 really have to tell? I personally would be fine with a really good story as a starter, but of course we can't even have that in the age of purple censorship and politicial polarisation.
 
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Infinitron said:
The tentacles are probably more than a reference to some arbitrary spell.

Is there any particular sea monster or tentacle monster that's a big thing in recent FR lore?
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The Kraken from the Kraken Society. It was a plot point in Storm Kings Thunder.
Edit: They're active in the Sword Coast, so that would fit to BG.
 

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Speaking of graphics.. I already psychologically prepared for less realistic, more cartoony Baldur's Gate.
But just in case I can't handle it, I've got a bottle of wine to help me.

DoomIhlVaria said:
His whole shtick is supposedly being a person who has thought long and hard about the history of CRPGs ("BUY MY BOOK! IT'S NOTHING BUT PICTURES AND COSTS A BILLION DOLLARS!"). The reality is that he's a weeb living in Japan who couldn't even handle Grimoire.
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I think he's donating all money from the book to charity :-/
 
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hexer said:
I think he's donating all money from the book to charity :-/
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Oh, I don't think it's a greed thing. I believe you can just download the book for free. It's just a truly baffling long saga of handling printing logistics. But I get it. Entry-level color printing services are expensive. I just got burned out on hearing about it long ago.
 

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I haven't seen the hardcover IRL but I currently work in marketing / financial industry, and we usually get extreme discounts on printing services because of years of "customer loyalty" with a few printing studios.
We use them to print all sort of things .. books, info pamphlets, t-shirts, billboards, any sort of promo material you can imagine.
Someone probably charged him a full price as I imagine he wasn't a "long term client".
 
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One thing i cannot forgive in that book is relative praise of Failure3, or Faceplam 3, while he always harshly criticized it and whole bethesda and everything theyve done on the forums.
I dont have that, talk in one way here but if writing a book about it talk differently,... skill. And "being objective while writing a historic account of a genre for wide audience" doesnt cut it for me either, because such approach to those specific games is not objective. I criticized him for it and he didnt take it kindly.

Yet, all the same, felipepepe is a good dude and one of the best posters this site ever had. Easily far better than me by a very large margin.
Just wanted to note this down for posterity.
 
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DalekFlay said:
Music and games not really comparable here like you're pretending. It's not like the developer "Bioware" means a specific group of people necessarily because it could be anyone.
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What? Bioware circa 1998-2000 made two BG games that became classics, i would gladly play their version of BG3, wouldn't you?
 
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Mr. Hiver said:
One thing i cannot forgive in that book is relative praise of Failure3, or Faceplam 3, while he always harshly criticized it and whole bethesda and everything theyve done on the forums.
I dont have that, talk in one way here but if writing a book about it talk differently,... skill. And "being objective while writing a historic account of a genre for wide audience" doesnt cut it for me either, because such approach to those specific games is not objective. I criticized him for it and he didnt take it kindly.
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I mean if you're writing the history of RPGs it's a fact that Fallout 3 was a big hit and loved by gamers at large. The fact us old cranks who loved 1 and 2 were annoyed by it should probably be mentioned as a footnote, but that's about it.

Terenty said:
What? Bioware circa 1998-2000 made two BG games that became classics, i would gladly play their version of BG3, wouldn't you?
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That Bioware no longer exists.
 
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TT1 said:
photoshop:LayerName="Say no to crack Say yes to kraken"
<rdf:li xml:lang="x-default">Wuts kraken</rdf:li>
<rdf:li xml:lang="x-default">KRAKEN me crazy</rdf:li>
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Kraken antagonist seems very likely (unless they're still messing around).

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Infinitron said:
The tentacles are probably more than a reference to some arbitrary spell.

Is there any particular sea monster or tentacle monster that's a big thing in recent FR lore?
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The Kraken from the Kraken Society. It was a plot point in Storm Kings Thunder.
Edit: They're active in the Sword Coast, so that would fit to BG.
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Yes, it's Slarkrethel.
 

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Terenty said:
DalekFlay said:
Music and games not really comparable here like you're pretending. It's not like the developer "Bioware" means a specific group of people necessarily because it could be anyone.
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What? Bioware circa 1998-2000 made two BG games that became classics, i would gladly play their version of BG3, wouldn't you?
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The old gang is long gone, dispersed by the waves of time in all directions.
The 90s magic is gone I'm afraid. We need new crazy bastards with a vision!
 
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DalekFlay said:
I mean if you're writing the history of RPGs it's a fact that Fallout 3 was a big hit and loved by gamers at large.
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Sure, but my point is, thats far from the only fact about it. And i see no sense or point in self reduction into "old cranks" in a footnote either. Especially considering the fact we revitalized the old school TB RPGs, brought about the new age of incline and enabled many kicstarter projects, including Wasteland 2 and even a TB "spiritual successor" to bloody Planescape Torment and Baldurs gate games (regardless that those were failures). But lets not drag this further.
 
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hexer said:
Terenty said:
DalekFlay said:
Music and games not really comparable here like you're pretending. It's not like the developer "Bioware" means a specific group of people necessarily because it could be anyone.
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What? Bioware circa 1998-2000 made two BG games that became classics, i would gladly play their version of BG3, wouldn't you?
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The old gang is long gone, dispersed by the waves of time in all directions.
The 90s magic is gone I'm afraid. We need new crazy bastards with a vision!
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Arn't there any FR novelists that they could employ that are similiar in tone to the IE games? Serious question.
 
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Terenty said:
Sure, but my point is, thats far from the only fact about it. And i see no sense or point in self reduction into "old cranks" in a footnote either. Especially considering the fact we revitalized the old school TB RPGs, brought about the new age of incline and enabled many kicstarter projects, including Wasteland 2 and even a TB "spiritual successor" to bloody Planescape Torment and Baldurs gate games (regardless that those were failures). But lets not drag this further.
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Pretty sure he mentioned that later stuff in the PoE section. Anyway, I don't remember his exact wording for Fallout 3 so I can't speak to specifics, I just know when writing history you have to be honest about the general perception and only mention the small minority opinion in balance with that. The Codex is a great place for free expression and complaining about mainstream priorities and whatnot, but when writing a book like that I think his approach made sense.
 
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Hey guys, this is a leak of some of the main characters used for the upcoming BG3 by Larian: also, you can see the art style they'll utilize.

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Something's up!! Why would he be nervous and excited?

 
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