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What is the best RPG of the CRPG Renaissance?

Best CRPGs 2012-2021

  • Legend of Grimrock

    Votes: 19 7.5%
  • Dead State (ReAnimated)

    Votes: 4 1.6%
  • Divinity: Original Sin

    Votes: 18 7.1%
  • Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition

    Votes: 4 1.6%
  • Baldur's Gate 2: Enhanced Edition

    Votes: 5 2.0%
  • Baldur's Gate: Siege of Dragonspear

    Votes: 3 1.2%
  • Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition

    Votes: 3 1.2%
  • Planescape: Torment: Enhanced Edition

    Votes: 8 3.2%
  • Shadowrun Returns

    Votes: 2 0.8%
  • Shadowrun: Dragonfall

    Votes: 61 24.2%
  • Shadowrun: Hong Kong

    Votes: 8 3.2%
  • Legend of Grimrock II

    Votes: 18 7.1%
  • Might and Magic X: Legacy

    Votes: 8 3.2%
  • Lords of Xulima

    Votes: 9 3.6%
  • Grimoire: Heralds of the Winged Exemplar

    Votes: 43 17.1%
  • ELEX

    Votes: 30 11.9%
  • NEO Scavenger

    Votes: 19 7.5%
  • Wasteland 2

    Votes: 11 4.4%
  • Legends of Eisenwald

    Votes: 3 1.2%
  • Pillars of Eternity

    Votes: 20 7.9%
  • The Age of Decadence

    Votes: 60 23.8%
  • Underrail

    Votes: 84 33.3%
  • Darkest Dungeon

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • Divinity: Original Sin 2

    Votes: 23 9.1%
  • Tyranny

    Votes: 12 4.8%
  • Torment: Tides of Numenara

    Votes: 4 1.6%
  • Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire

    Votes: 17 6.7%
  • Pathfinder: Kingmaker

    Votes: 99 39.3%
  • Disco Elysium

    Votes: 57 22.6%
  • Paranoia: Happiness is Mandatory

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Stygian: Reign of the Old Ones

    Votes: 2 0.8%
  • Heroine's Quest

    Votes: 11 4.4%
  • Battle Brothers

    Votes: 23 9.1%
  • Expedition: Conquistadors

    Votes: 14 5.6%
  • Expedition: Vikings

    Votes: 16 6.3%
  • Vaporum

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Vaporum: Lockdown

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Starcrawlers

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Serpent in the Staglands

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • ATOM

    Votes: 17 6.7%
  • Caves of Qud

    Votes: 2 0.8%
  • Kingdom Come: Deliverance

    Votes: 34 13.5%
  • Star Traders

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • Tales of Maj'Eyal

    Votes: 2 0.8%
  • Voidspire Tactics

    Votes: 3 1.2%
  • Alvora Tactics

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Satellite Reign

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Kenshi

    Votes: 17 6.7%
  • Troubleshooter

    Votes: 5 2.0%
  • Dungeon of Naheulbeuk

    Votes: 3 1.2%
  • Wasteland 3

    Votes: 9 3.6%
  • Knights of the Chalice 2

    Votes: 10 4.0%
  • Quest for Infamy

    Votes: 4 1.6%
  • Blackguards

    Votes: 4 1.6%
  • Blackguards 2

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • Dungeon Rats

    Votes: 7 2.8%
  • A Legionary's Life

    Votes: 2 0.8%

  • Total voters
    252

fantadomat

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Surprised to see Dragonfall doing so well. I think it’s definitely the best of the nuShadowruns, but I didn’t find it particularly engaging outside of the narrative.

Also seems like Codex is less inclined towards blobbers than it used to be. For shame.
Because there is no blobbers to be inclined toward. There was operencia which was ok but nothing special,and there was bard's tale which was a meme,yet still ok after a lot of fixing. Neither of them is something amazing,it is no new MM tier of incline.

Grimrock 2 is probably the best RT blobber ever released outside of CSB, and Lords of Xulima is a perfectly respectable game as well.
LoL both of them are mega garbage,go get your self a surgery for a taste implantation! Grimcock is a generic dungeon crawler trough generic unity assets. Xulima have some good parts like the world and its semi freedom to explore it,but the combat was mega generic and tedious,the part where you have too move around till the enemy attack you too.

I want to see some modern evolution of a blober,want to see free camera,free movement,one world with different factions quests and characters,robust leveling system with useful skills,good dungeon design not just long corridors with enemy and traps dropped in random places. I am tired of people that cling to the old garbage dungeon crawlers,they were good games for its times,but such people make the genre stagnates and die!
 

fantadomat

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Also it show how much of casualtards you are,not even one of you mentioned Frayed Knights The Skull of Smakh-Daon,which is far better blobber than all the garbage in here. Also operencia is far better than grimcock,but i doubt that you had played it.


EDIT:Also no mention of THE QUEST lol. It may not be a blober per character numbers,but is great fun game. It is a shame that on a supposedly niche forum for rpgs and people don't even know that exists :(.
 

Strange Fellow

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
There are also a few very indie blobbers, but I'm kind of getting tired of badgering people to add Note of the Outskirts to lists just so I alone can vote for it, so I didn't this time.
 

anvi

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Surprised to see Dragonfall doing so well. I think it’s definitely the best of the nuShadowruns, but I didn’t find it particularly engaging outside of the narrative.

Also seems like Codex is less inclined towards blobbers than it used to be. For shame.
Because there is no blobbers to be inclined toward. There was operencia which was ok but nothing special,and there was bard's tale which was a meme,yet still ok after a lot of fixing. Neither of them is something amazing,it is no new MM tier of incline.

Grimrock 2 is probably the best RT blobber ever released outside of CSB, and Lords of Xulima is a perfectly respectable game as well.
It doesn't even have a healer. :killit:
 

anvi

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Also it show how much of casualtards you are,not even one of you mentioned Frayed Knights The Skull of Smakh-Daon,which is far better blobber than all the garbage in here. Also operencia is far better than grimcock,but i doubt that you had played it.


EDIT:Also no mention of THE QUEST lol. It may not be a blober per character numbers,but is great fun game. It is a shame that on a supposedly niche forum for rpgs and people don't even know that exists :(.
It is still a phone game though and you can exploit the hell out of wands and stuff.
 

DalekFlay

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I voted for:

Pathfinder
Pillars
Shadowrun Dragonfall
Elex

Of those I'll be the weirdo who says he enjoyed Pillars most. Pathfinder was a little too mechanics focused, the kingdom management was tedious and annoying, the time limits made for some feelings of linearity despite their leniency and having to save scum after learning what status effects the enemies were using was lame. Dragonfall was a little too small in scope to compete. Elex isn't really applicable to the question IMO. Note: I have not played Atom, Underrail or Wasteland 3 yet.
 

Zed Duke of Banville

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These are not renaissance games. Lilura will comeback to punish you, heretic.
Legend of Grimrock was the first in a spate of games looking back to the Golden Age of CRPGs for inspiration, and therefore this period is more deserving of the moniker "Renaissance Era" than Lilura's favorite epoch.

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grimrock: dance dance blobber edition

Dude. If you're going to spend breath defending declined MMO shit like FO76 and TOR (which, btw, I admire you for being willing to defend), you could at least engage in substantive criticism of the games you don't like instead of just pithy one-liner pile-ons.

I do think combat is easily the worst part of the Grimrocks, but the second game goes a long way towards making it more palatable and interesting. Level and encounter design are much more clever than in the first game.
 
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Codex Year of the Donut
grimrock: dance dance blobber edition

Dude. If you're going to spend breath defending declined MMO shit like FO76 and TOR (which, btw, I admire you for being willing to defend), you could at least engage in substantive criticism of the games you don't like instead of just pithy one-liner pile-ons.

I do think combat is easily the worst part of the Grimrocks, but the second game goes a long way towards making it more palatable and interesting. Level and encounter design are much more clever than in the first game.
nah
 
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grimrock: dance dance blobber edition

Dude. If you're going to spend breath defending declined MMO shit like FO76 and TOR (which, btw, I admire you for being willing to defend), you could at least engage in substantive criticism of the games you don't like instead of just pithy one-liner pile-ons.

I do think combat is easily the worst part of the Grimrocks, but the second game goes a long way towards making it more palatable and interesting. Level and encounter design are much more clever than in the first game.
nah

Disappointing.
 
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Codex Year of the Donut
grimrock: dance dance blobber edition

Dude. If you're going to spend breath defending declined MMO shit like FO76 and TOR (which, btw, I admire you for being willing to defend), you could at least engage in substantive criticism of the games you don't like instead of just pithy one-liner pile-ons.

I do think combat is easily the worst part of the Grimrocks, but the second game goes a long way towards making it more palatable and interesting. Level and encounter design are much more clever than in the first game.
nah

Disappointing.
I aim to please
 

fantadomat

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grimrock: dance dance blobber edition

Dude. If you're going to spend breath defending declined MMO shit like FO76 and TOR (which, btw, I admire you for being willing to defend), you could at least engage in substantive criticism of the games you don't like instead of just pithy one-liner pile-ons.

I do think combat is easily the worst part of the Grimrocks, but the second game goes a long way towards making it more palatable and interesting. Level and encounter design are much more clever than in the first game.
nah

Disappointing.
You really do have shitty taste. Grimcock is garbage and one of the worst blobbers.
 
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I'm very into cock and ball torture
I want more votes, there are at least 10 good rpgs in the poll, and it pains me seeing some good rpgs go with 1 vote just because there are better ones.
 

jackofshadows

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The Age of Decadence
Underrail
Furries
Dungeon Rats (1 vote? the fuck?!)

Dragonfall was good but not good enough.
Grimrock 1-2 are very good games but calling them RPGs is a stretch. (fanta doesn't like solving puzzles while being drunk, who could've guessed)
 

Darth Canoli

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In no particular order

  • KotC 2
  • Dungeon Rats
  • Quest For Infamy
  • ATOM RPG
  • Grimoire
Also, these polls are useless, it's obviously a popularity contest won by the infiltrated masses whom only play some big shitty titles, as the Codex Giggle of the Year showed us times and again.
 
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In no particular order

  • KotC 2
  • Dungeon Rats
  • Quest For Infamy
  • ATOM RPG
  • Grimoire
Also, these polls are useless, it's obviously a popularity contest won by the infiltrated masses whom only play some big shitty titles, as the Codex Giggle of the Year showed us times and again.
Eh. Yes and no. The top results are ultimately neither terribly informative nor surprising (nor did I expect them to be when I made the poll; I would frankly have been stunned if Kingmaker and Underrail were not in the top 3), but the poll itself can illuminate some surprising data. Dragonfall’s strong performance surprised me, so did the relative underperformance of AoD and the blobbers present. From your own list I’m surprised to see QFI, a game I really like, but consider strictly inferior to Heroine’s Quest.
Is any of this scientific? Not even remotely, but my intention with this thread was to foment discussion, not reach firm conclusions.
 

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