Kingdom Come: Deliverance II Thread

[Child of Malkav]

21KiloChud.

 

[ADL]

Don't expect someone like Vavra to stick up for customers during the next GamerGate if this is all it takes for you sperglords to turn on him. I'd side with globohomo too after the last five years of your retarded culture war bullshit. You've all become the exact thing you railed against ten years ago but are somehow even more annoying about it.

Alien and Terminator would be considered woke goyslop by you stupid culture warring cunts if those released today exactly as they were shot 35-40 years ago.

Anyone who doubted George Miller is a fucking dumbass. Congratulations, a great movie and completely apolitical filmmaker was collateral damage in your retarded crusade and he will likely never get to make another movie again after Three Thousand Years of Longing and Furiosa both flopped.

I wasn't wrong then and I wasn't wrong now. Go fuck yourselves.

 

[turbo elephant]

Yeah, IDK, this whole situation seems kinda dark and gay.
BTW, chuddha didn't really help on this one.

Maybe on the next one.

The wokes are celebrating KCD2's success and think they owned the chuds while still hating the game and GamerGate supporter Vavra.

While at the same time NOT buying the game

KCD2 got overtaken by...... Banana!

 

[Elttharion]

Don't expect someone like Vavra to stick up for customers during the next GamerGate if this is all it takes for you sperglords to turn on him. I'd side with globohomo too after the last five years of your retarded culture war bullshit. You've all become the exact thing you railed against ten years ago but are somehow even more annoying about it.

Alien and Terminator would be considered woke goyslop by you stupid culture warring cunts if those released today exactly as they were shot 35-40 years ago.

Anyone who doubted George Miller is a fucking dumbass. Congratulations, a great movie and completely apolitical filmmaker was collateral damage in your retarded crusade and he will likely never get to make another movie again after Three Thousand Years of Longing and Furiosa both flopped.

I wasn't wrong then and I wasn't wrong now. Go fuck yourselves.

 

[Fedora Master]

Don't expect someone like Vavra to stick up for customers during the next GamerGate if this is all it takes for you sperglords to turn on him. I'd side with globohomo too after the last five years of your retarded culture war bullshit. You've all become the exact thing you railed against ten years ago but are somehow even more annoying about it.

Alien and Terminator would be considered woke goyslop by you stupid culture warring cunts if those released today exactly as they were shot 35-40 years ago.

Anyone who doubted George Miller is a fucking dumbass. Congratulations, a great movie and completely apolitical filmmaker was collateral damage in your retarded crusade and he will likely never get to make another movie again after Three Thousand Years of Longing and Furiosa both flopped.

I wasn't wrong then and I wasn't wrong now. Go fuck yourselves.

The shit you drag in here is on the same level as Infinitrons. Nobody here needs what you peddle. Maybe it is you who needs to fuck off.

 

[Abu Antar]

It's easy to understand why this game will find more success than Veilguard, and it has nothing to do with acceptance, cringe, or whatever. Warhorse did a bait and switch. They can add whatever they want in their games, but I don't accept it for the simple reason that the tune of Vavra changed once leaks happened. We did not hear anything about the controversial stuff before then. He sold out, which I may not have had a problem with under some circumstances. The thing is that his game would have done well either way. Unfortunately, he bent over and took woke dick in his butt, and grabbed some money in return. Seller of snake oil, and no matter what anyone says, my mind can't be changed. I don't wish them neither good, nor bad luck. It went off my wishlist, and that's the end of that.

"But you don't have to be gay!!", some people will say. Sure, that's what they said about BioWare games as well. Look at Veilguard, but also prior games. There were already signs in Inquistion with certain characters. Whoever plays this has no right to complain about wokeism in any other game, because they are showing that they are okay with previously non-woke games getting ruined.

For something like Larian, and Owlcat, you can almost know that there will be shit like this in their games, but they don't try to sweep it under the rug, and sucker people into thinking it isn't there.

 

[Fedora Master]

For something like Larian, and Owlcat, you can almost know that there will be shit like this in their games, but they don't try to sweep it under the rug, and sucker people into thinking it isn't there.

We must be conscious of the fact that the Slav is Asiatic and therefore thinks deviously.

 

[Fenix]

If KCD2 had dismembering it would be great, right now the combat is serviceable from gameplay standpoint but not very enjoyable from action rpg/graphical standpoint. You don't get much feedback on your hits, whether a good hitstop, sound, blood, dismemberment or armor holes if you use warhammers/picks. Hopefully other areas of the game make up for it, especially story and immersion.

You see, dismemberment is a lost tech of the ancients - what gam that was? Jady Academy? was it even this century and millenium?

 

[Skinwalker]

If KCD2 had dismembering it would be great, right now the combat is serviceable from gameplay standpoint but not very enjoyable from action rpg/graphical standpoint. You don't get much feedback on your hits, whether a good hitstop, sound, blood, dismemberment or armor holes if you use warhammers/picks. Hopefully other areas of the game make up for it, especially story and immersion.

Cumsisters:

1. Falksi
2. Stavrophore

 

[Fedora Master]

21KiloChud.

The goyim are noticing, shut it down!!!

 

[Stavrophore]

If KCD2 had dismembering it would be great, right now the combat is serviceable from gameplay standpoint but not very enjoyable from action rpg/graphical standpoint. You don't get much feedback on your hits, whether a good hitstop, sound, blood, dismemberment or armor holes if you use warhammers/picks. Hopefully other areas of the game make up for it, especially story and immersion.

Cumsisters:

1. Falksi
2. Stavrophore

Fuck off mountain jew, why did you go back in the topic[because you already rated later posts] to find my post? And where do i tell about KCD2 being great, i just rated combat, and we know that story and immersion wont make up for it, because its full on niggertopia and homosex as i just found out.

 

[Infinitron]

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The 2 percent thing is a very modern American point of view. The Jews in pre-modern Europe were often a very large percentage of the urban population, because almost all of the non-Jews were peasants or rural nobility. In Poland their population grew so quickly that they were becoming a legit demographic threat to the Slav majority.

 

[Camel]

Don't expect someone like Vavra to stick up for customers during the next GamerGate if this is all it takes for you sperglords to turn on him. I'd side with globohomo too after the last five years of your retarded culture war bullshit. You've all become the exact thing you railed against ten years ago but are somehow even more annoying about it.

Alien and Terminator would be considered woke goyslop by you stupid culture warring cunts if those released today exactly as they were shot 35-40 years ago.

Anyone who doubted George Miller is a fucking dumbass. Congratulations, a great movie and completely apolitical filmmaker was collateral damage in your retarded crusade and he will likely never get to make another movie again after Three Thousand Years of Longing and Furiosa both flopped.

I wasn't wrong then and I wasn't wrong now. Go fuck yourselves.

Wokes: Old movies and games are woke goyslop!
Also wokes: We censor old movies and games from "racism", "offensive jokes", "harmful stereotypes", "transphobia" etc.

 

[Fenix]

So if we don't romance Capon, he stay straight, if we romance him he is gay, so other characters sexuality is simply based about our choices in game? How would that work in real life? If i hit on my male coworker he simply turns gay, otherwise he will be straight? WTF.

It simply means that everyone is bisexual, which sertainly CHANGE our perception of a character - be it Henry or enyone else.
Forgive me, but at those times in Russia homos would be put on a stake to have a very torturing death.
I doubt Chech was that much different.

 

[ArcaneShifter]

It's easy to understand why this game will find more success than Veilguard, and it has nothing to do with acceptance, cringe, or whatever. Warhorse did a bait and switch. They can add whatever they want in their games, but I don't accept it for the simple reason that the tune of Vavra changed once leaks happened. We did not hear anything about the controversial stuff before then. He sold out, which I may not have had a problem with under some circumstances. The thing is that his game would have done well either way. Unfortunately, he bent over and took woke dick in his butt, and grabbed some money in return. Seller of snake oil, and no matter what anyone says, my mind can't be changed. I don't wish them neither good, nor bad luck. It went off my wishlist, and that's the end of that.

"But you don't have to be gay!!", some people will say. Sure, that's what they said about BioWare games as well. Look at Veilguard, but also prior games. There were already signs in Inquistion with certain characters. Whoever plays this has no right to complain about wokeism in any other game, because they are showing that they are okay with previously non-woke games getting ruined.

For something like Larian, and Owlcat, you can almost know that there will be shit like this in their games, but they don't try to sweep it under the rug, and sucker people into thinking it isn't there.

100%

Thr way that Vavra reacted, well, went off the handle show one thing: if it talks like a duck, walks like a duck, looks like a duck... It's a duck.

The only difference between him and the other woke devs is that he tried to hide the woke shit while other devs are proudly displaying it.

Vavra is a coward wokie. Took money and said "yes master", made Henry gay and added a black merchant.

I also wonder what else he hid in this massive open world sandbox game

 

[Fedora Master]

Note: Homosexuality isn't the problem when it is used appropriately. Nobody cared or commented on the butt buddy of the villain in KCD1. Because homosexuality is a reality. However, they're also an exceedingly tiny minority. Making characters bisexual that clearly weren't before is character assassination and pandering.

If they wanted to evolve the characters, Henry should by now be hardened and less naive, not gay.

 

[Fenix]

So if we don't romance Capon, he stay straight, if we romance him he is gay, so other characters sexuality is simply based about our choices in game? How would that work in real life? If i hit on my male coworker he simply turns gay, otherwise he will be straight? WTF.

Wait Hans is seriously the gay option?

Hans is 'one' of the gay options, according to the IGN reviewer there are multiple gay romance partners

More gay options? Seriously? Warhorse is clearly out of their minds.

https://bsky.app/profile/len.bsky.social
I don't want to keep harping on this necessarily but if you think Hans Capon is supposed to be a role model, I think you lack media literacy. He's a rich fuckboy who causes much of the conflict in the story by having dick for brains. His behavior is not presented as aspirational.

(because she just wasn't my type - I'm a true disaster bisexual and I banged multiple people of both genders on purpose)

This pic - if it is true - is a sentence, and for me it's clear (won't playing it anyway but if) - you can play it, but buying it? it mean support such ATTITUDE from developers - and I mea not just making such game, but TURNING sequel to such a game after first one.
Dragon Age was like that from start - it is only natural DAV happened.
KC on the other hand wasn't, so this feels like a betrayal.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

Don't expect someone like Vavra to stick up for customers during the next GamerGate if this is all it takes for you sperglords to turn on him.

Some of us have been criticizing Vavra's narrative decisions since 2018:

Looking forward to Kingdom Come II: Hussite Wars.

I can confirm this - KCD2 story will continue the story of KCD1 right where it ended. That doesn't mean there can't a 17 years jump into the future in the middle of the game. Right? But ask yourself how likely that is.

I finished almost all content and enjoyed the game immensely, but 50 hours spent with Henry of Skalitz is more than sufficient. I don't see the point of creating a sequel with the same protagonist, especially given that Henry should already be immensely experienced by the end of the first game and therefore character progression in a sequel would be limited unless the protagonist's skills are reset to zero. Rather than spend more time with the same protagonist following up the plot of the first game, I would much rather see a similar (but improved!) game with different characters and plot; preferably occurring during the Hussite Wars with a player-character who is more customizable.

did this game age well?

Kingdom Come: Deliverance has a number of interesting systems relating to a variety of skills, connecting to both combat and exploration, and tied into its nonlinear Open World environment. Moreover, that environment is a well-realized, small-scale, pure (i.e. non-fantasy) medieval setting, relating to an actual, historical conflict. However, there's an underlying tension between these systems of game mechanics and the narrative of the main story, which is more of a cutscene simulator and becomes increasingly intrusive as you progress through the main storyline. This is why I'd prefer the developers skip to Kingdom Come: Hussite Wars rather than make a KCD 2: Prince Hal of Skalitz, as the former might focus on extending and improving its game mechanics while reining in excessive use of cutscenes, whereas the latter will likely have a greater focus on story-telling and cutscenes in place in gameplay.

This game is 10/10 until Runt fight (the last one, not the first one), after that it's getting worse and worse. It's sad, cos' it really has potential.

The game should have ended with the second Runt fight, though with Henry retrieving his father's sword from Runt in order to give his story some degree of closure. The parts of the main quest that occur afterward were obviously rushed, dragged out by a poorly-fabricated monastery sequence, a second bandit fortified camp, and a siege for the sake of having a siege.

Since Henry's story would have been completed, we could then be looking forward to Kingdom Come II: Hussite Wars, with further refinement of the game's various mechanics.

As you'll find out shortly, the last several stages of the main quest are poorly constructed, starting with the monastery section.

I'd play the siege of Vienna, or even a globe-spanning CoD style game about Suleyman's era, where I get to play missions from both sides.

First, they need to make a game set during the Hussite Wars, which will be their next game if they have enough sense to realize that Henry's storyline was never very interesting and could easily have received closure at the end of Kingdom Come: Deliverance via the retrieval of his father's sword.

Kingdom Come: Deliverance already suffered from the writer's insistence on cramming into it as much as possible of a predetermined storyline, with the later sections of the main quest relatively dull, repetitive, linear, and/or buggy. Henry of Skalitz could easily have reached a satisfactory conclusion to his story by regaining his father's sword, from the bandit leader who had stolen it, at Pribyslavitz. Some of the material occurring later in the main quest could have been repurposed as optional side quests occurring earlier. I expect a sequel with Henry returning as protagonist will be even more prolonged and feel redundant.

I've reached the siege, and have put the game on hold for a month or so. In my opinion this shit is going one for too long for its own sake. It should have ended with Vranik, not only it is stupid to give the player more errands on a map that he has scoured many times already but the plot makes no sense :

Kingdom Come: Deliverance should have ended with the battle of Pribyslavitz, in which Henry personally defeats and slays Runt and regains his father's sword. A large portion of the later content, such as the investigation into counterfeit coins, could have been slightly reworked and made available earlier. However, it was a dreadful mistake to tell the player the princess is in another castle the sword is in another bandit camp, so that the player can be drawn into a buggy monastery quest line, followed by an investigation of the second bandit camp and battle in that camp, only to discover some of the bandits have escaped and captured Talmberg castle resulting in a prolonged siege quest line, among other extraneous content.

In a sense, Vavra wants to do the same thing the industry wants to do. He thinks roleplaying is about "experiencing" the role as if the player was actually living it. The difference between him and other devs is that he is going the right way about it. Codexers may scoff at the idea roleplaying has anything to do with "experiencing" anything, but if one MUST go that road, there's no better way to do it than how Vavra is doing it.

Vavra's game-design tendencies might be far superior to the typical tendencies of AAA game design, but they could still be considerably improved. He is the person responsible for KCD's heavy focus on cinematic cutscenes involving a pregenerated character, emulating games such as the The Witcher II/III, even though these detract from RPG immersion and the experience of the player. Similarly, Vavra insisted on prolonging the main plot in order to have as much exposition of the life of Henry as possible, preparing the grounds for at least one sequel, even though this results in the game dragging on and on in the later parts, with repeated anticlimaxes; there's even a second bandit fortress that again fails to fully resolve Henry's situation after their defeat. The true heroes of KCD are those who designed its systems and its historically-grounded Open World setting.

 

[Abu Antar]

Note: Homosexuality isn't the problem when it is used appropriately. Nobody cared or commented on the butt buddy of the villain in KCD1. Because homosexuality is a reality. However, they're also an exceedingly tiny minority. Making characters bisexual that clearly weren't before is character assassination and pandering.

If they wanted to evolve the characters, Henry should by now be hardened and less naive, not gay.

He should even have a few mini Henry's running around.

 

[Yosharian]

....so can we have a separate KCD2 thread where people actually talk about the game mechanics, builds, etc?

 

[Abu Antar]

....so can we have a separate KCD2 thread where people actually talk about the game mechanics, builds, etc?

Sure, the romance mechanic allows your character to take it in the butt.

 

[Fedora Master]

....so can we have a separate KCD2 thread where people actually talk about the game mechanics, builds, etc?

No.

 

[Fedora Master]

I like how the separation into gaming and drama has really fucking helped, right guys?

 

[Skinwalker]

....so can we have a separate KCD2 thread where people actually talk about the game mechanics, builds, etc?

Yes, I created a separate thread that is strictly for discussing gameplay and in-game events, separate from all the idpol drama, link included below:













Cumsisters:
1. Falksi
2. Stavrophore
3. Yosharian

 

[Fedora Master]

It's Quantum Wokeness. The moment we observe the game, idpol and globohomo manifests inside it. It is most definitely not the fault of anyone else involved with the game. Hence why we need to keep the chuds that just want to talk about idpol out.