Kingdom Come: Deliverance II Thread

[Grampy_Bone]

Is there a hack for save scumming yet?

 

[Fedora Master]

Something else occurred to me.
The way homosexuality is shown here seems to be entirely positive, in the sense that it is consensual. Which is completely unrealistic. Buttsex happened, yes, but the kind of "kissy-kissy ooooh I luv u" stuff is certainly not the main expression of it.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

Some of us have been criticizing Vavra's narrative decisions since 2018:

I recall learning back then that KCD was the first third of a story that had originally been planned as a single game, hence why the first game is relatively thin narratively speaking and so stuffed with filler. It's act 1 of a larger story. I find this structure bad enough in book form (Epic fantasy is a cancer) but nearly always fails utterly in game form.

The fact that Warhorse 1. made a sequel to KCD and 2. actually picked up part 2 of the story exactly where they left off is fucking unbelievable. Studios usually get bought out, fire creative leads, change direction, chase new audiences, etc. No one sticks to their original planned multi-game story. It just doesn't happen.

As you say, whether this should have been done, and it's actually a story worth continuing, is a whole other question. But I do at least applaud them for somewhat sticking to their plan.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Henry's rise in KCD is quite implausible too, unless everyone was in on Radzig's secret, which is itself highly implausible.

But since it's the protagonist we could forgive things like that.

The very short timeframe is, yeah. But Henry's story is similar to that of Sir John Hawkwood, an English tanner's (wealthy but common) son who eventually got knighted after serving as an archer at the Battle of Poitiers/Crécy and later became an important figure in Italy. And that's just one example - another is Hans Waldmann, also a tanner's son who made it big because he somehow married a rich widow.

I'm familiar with Hawkwood as an example of rising from the ranks, but it is a very uncommon case, otherwise it wouldn't have been so well known. Also, Hawkwood was a longbowman. Henry is a peasant, who miraculously outrides nomadic horse archers. I get it, it's just an adventure story. What I meant was let's not get too bogged down with how "historical" everything is, or isn't, including "diversity", because there are a good amount of liberties taken even in the first game. Only because it's "diversity" this time we have a squad of politcomissars puffing about historical accuracy. They weren't around before. So many historians on the Codex suddenly.

Finally we get to see and hear the Wakandan scholar in action!

All that being said, this shit is immersion breaking. Worse than I thought. The writing in general seems to have taken a turn towards the humorous, I didn't find the tone convincing at all in the 3.5 hrs I took playing through the intro section, up to the pillory. And I see it doesn't really improve.

The game would have sold equally well without the globohomo makeover. That's what's really galling. Vavra threw his work to the wolves for no reason.

Czech tard wants to be part of the western dev circlejerks.

Why would he do that when he had Bentley already?

Now when Josh Sawyer's bicycle breaks, Vavra can give him a ride.

 

[Infinitron]

I like how the separation into gaming and drama has really fucking helped, right guys?

Game's out now, it is what it is. Eventually the clowns will move on to the next circus and some people will actually play the game.

 

[Skinwalker]

Something else occurred to me.
The way homosexuality is shown here seems to be entirely positive, in the sense that it is consensual. Which is completely unrealistic. Buttsex happened, yes, but the kind of "kissy-kissy ooooh I luv u" stuff is certainly not the main expression of it.

Ah, so you're an expert in at least one field.

 

[Nelka]

Wow, but to be honest it runs great and looks pretty well even with jewish tricks aka FSR. I also liked the slow pace of the first two hours, before open world opens.
I mean, just look at those fields! Cows! It's just like Poland! I love fictional Czechia already!!

 

[Fedora Master]

I like how the separation into gaming and drama has really fucking helped, right guys?

Game's out now, it is what it is. Eventually the clowns will move on to the next circus and some people will actually play the game.

Sad, I figured you'd careful excise the wrongthink and split it off into Drama. You really are lazy.

 

[Mark Richard]

Henry somehow meeting the bastard son of his adoptive father is some awful, awful writing, regardless of context.

He had a good familial relationship so it had to be ruined.

Everything the first game did right had to be removed or subverted.

Even the dead characters aren't exempt from character assassination.

Theresa isn't in the game, right? She's safe, right?!

 

[Infinitron]

I like how the separation into gaming and drama has really fucking helped, right guys?

Game's out now, it is what it is. Eventually the clowns will move on to the next circus and some people will actually play the game.

Sad, I figured you'd careful excise the wrongthink and split it off into Drama. You really are lazy.

Guilty as charged. But the drama thread is huge now and I'm sure it'll continue diverting attention away from this one, so it wasn't a waste.

 

[Fenix]

Small victory, game has "gay as fuck" Steam tag

What's the rest is to put "fantasy" tag on it.
I'm done withtheis game and thread, tired of bad emotions it induce in me. Sorry.

 

[Nelka]

To all of you Hans Capons (pl. Jan Ptaszek) out there, I'm on the hunt. For your ass. Let's the sexo speedrun begins.

 

[AwesomeButton]

I mean, Taash's worst parts were how many hours into the game? Who knows what is hiding on Kingdom Come 2. Probably not nearly as cringe as Veilguard but a month ago if you told me Henry was a fag I would have laughed at you

Duh, I don't know are people here blind, or deaf or what, but Capon was already giving gay vibes in KCD. Now in KCD2 he and Henry are having arguments that make them look exactly like a couple having a fight, and it's about 2 hours into the intro chapter of the story. There is nothing buried, if you pay attention to the damn thing.

 

[Kev Inkline]

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Just take a look at the journo(s) and the mystery will be solved.

Josh...is that you?
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...are you unwell? I sense an imbalance

Uhm, considering the pronouns I think you should ask - Josh...are you them? Is any of you unwell? etc.
Don't know really, I missed corporate training on how to correctly address this kind of people as I took a day off to plough Teresa in KCD 1.

I think I get it.

 

[Skinwalker]

Btw, isn't it retarded that the original game was called Main Title: Subtitle, and instead of the sequel being Main Title: DifferentSubtitle, they put a 2 after the original subtitle?

Come up with a different subtitle, you fucks. Kingdome Cum: Miscegenation, or something.

 

[Elttharion]

I mean, Taash's worst parts were how many hours into the game? Who knows what is hiding on Kingdom Come 2. Probably not nearly as cringe as Veilguard but a month ago if you told me Henry was a fag I would have laughed at you

Duh, I don't know are people here blind, or deaf or what, but Capon was already giving gay vibes in KCD. Now in KCD2 he and Henry are having arguments that make them look exactly like a couple having a fight, and it's about 2 hours into the intro chapter of the story. There is nothing buried, if you pay attention to the damn thing.

There is nothing buried

You sure?

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

Duh, I don't know are people here blind, or deaf or what, but Capon was already giving bay vibes in KCD. Now in KCD2 he and Henry are having arguments that make them look exactly like a couple having a fight, and it's about 2 hours into the intro chapter of the story. There is nothing buried, if you pay attention to the damn thing.

Although I've heavily criticized Vavra's writing, I'm compelled to admit that he's a master of foreshadowing:

 

[AwesomeButton]

Duh, I don't know are people here blind, or deaf or what, but Capon was already giving bay vibes in KCD. Now in KCD2 he and Henry are having arguments that make them look exactly like a couple having a fight, and it's about 2 hours into the intro chapter of the story. There is nothing buried, if you pay attention to the damn thing.

Although I've heavily criticized Vavra's writing, I'm compelled to admit that he's a master of foreshadowing:

That's likely not the only example.

I still think it's likely Capon was intended to be a gay love interest in KCD, but they either couldn't finish ("budget reasons") or dropped the idea.

 

[cvv]

guys guys i played for 3 hours and theres no homosex for me i tried to refund but its forbidden what a ripoff, trash game

 

[Raghar]

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The 2 percent thing is a very modern American point of view. The Jews in pre-modern Europe were often a very large percentage of the urban population, because almost all of the non-Jews were peasants or rural nobility. In Poland their population grew so quickly that they were becoming a legit demographic threat to the Slav majority.

He was talking about homosexuals.

 

[Raghar]

Henry's rise in KCD is quite implausible too, unless everyone was in on Radzig's secret, which is itself highly implausible.

But since it's the protagonist we could forgive things like that.

The very short timeframe is, yeah. But Henry's story is similar to that of Sir John Hawkwood, an English tanner's (wealthy but common) son who eventually got knighted after serving as an archer at the Battle of Poitiers/Crécy and later became an important figure in Italy. And that's just one example - another is Hans Waldmann, also a tanner's son who made it big because he somehow married a rich widow.

I'm familiar with Hawkwood as an example of rising from the ranks, but it is a very uncommon case, otherwise it wouldn't have been so well known. Also, Hawkwood was a longbowman. Henry is a peasant, who miraculously outrides nomadic horse archers. I get it, it's just an adventure story. What I meant was let's not get too bogged down with how "historical" everything is, or isn't, including "diversity", because there are a good amount of liberties taken even in the first game. Only because it's "diversity" this time we have a squad of politcomissars puffing about historical accuracy. They weren't around before. So many historians on the Codex suddenly.

Considering his father was what fantasy literature calls a hand of the king. He could simply add request for some privilege for his non-martial son. Did they say he was knighted? Czech kingdom independent from HRE but they kept military alliance and had to abide to Reich knecht standard, or be better considering there was chance they'd have to fight against HRE, or against eastern steppes people. EU is more shitty than HRE was in 1370, but... And I doubt military proves we see in game would be enough for knighting.

Lowest noble title was Zeman, in that era.

The only problem was that normal knights were real psychopaths. They would probably be fine with him considering he was Racek Kobyla's son who was legitimized.

 

[Larianshill]

I'm enjoying the game so far. Vavra hid the woke garbage pretty well into the game, he knew what is he doing. But I did

Spoiler

Encounter friendly neighborhood cumans. Unbelievable.

 

[Raghar]

I decided to watch a streamer, and now streamer is talking about frog butts.

BTW are saddles forbidden in this game?

 

[BrainMuncher]

Is "return to form" literally a code signal between game journos or something??

Can anyone explain to me what "the form" really is? Any examples?

Just replace the word "form" with the word "gay" and it all makes sense.

 

[Raghar]

Sleeping in the wrong bed gets you harsh punishment instead of people who are living in the same house showing you where is YOUR bed.