Game News Knights Of The Chalice 2 Goals

[Jaesun]

Tags: Heroic Fantasy Games

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<p>BlueSalamander <a href="http://www.heroicfantasygames.com/Forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=213">shares his thoughts on Knights Of The Chalice 2</a>:</p>
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<p>I've done some initial work for the next game and here are some of my goals - I'd like to switch:</p>
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<p>* from procedural programming to object oriented (OO is much more suitable for a large project, I now realise this)</p>
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<p>* from a Windows-specific development library (DirectX) to a cross-platform library (probably SFML) that works on Linux, Mac and Windows. It has been said that 50% of indie RPG sales are Mac versions.</p>
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<p>* from a low resolution window to high resolution (preferably a 1024x768 window) - this means starting from scratch on graphic assets. Something approaching the graphic quality of Temple of Elemental Evil for dungeon tiles would be ideal. The game would still use 2D tiles and sprites and the same kind of Ultima-VII perspective. Initially I was more in favour of keeping the low resolution. But it's probably worth trying to get graphics closer to TOEE or Eschalon in order to widen the audience.</p>
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<p>* together with the graphic change, it will be good to change from MIDI music to CD-quality music in ogg format.</p>
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<p>* from a focus on a single large adventure to a module editor that could be used to create small modules intended for player characters of a certain level. After finishing a module, the same player characters could be transferred into another module where they can continue adventuring and levelling up. Just like the classic D&amp;D modules. Some features will go away, like listening at the door, as it makes level design slower without bringing much benefit.</p>
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<p>So yeah, it goes without saying that all this will take time! But wouldn't it be great to have an editor like the one of Neverwinter Nights, with top-down 2D and turn-based combat?</p>
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<p>Spotted at: <a href="http://www.rpgwatch.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15462">RPG Watch</a></p>

 

[Elim]

Touching myself right now.

 

[deuxhero]

I'd prefer a FFT style view (for z-axis) myself.

 

[SCO]

"OO is much more suitable for a large project, I now realise this"

predict analysis paralysis.

 

[Humanity has risen!]

I was initially excited, then I quickly realized it was a two years-old post.

 

[OuterSpace]

by BlueSalamander » Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:46 pm

More recently he said that he's using a true top down perspective.

 

[Damned Registrations]

If it's old thats a relief for me. Talking about 'now I realize' usually means pushing a game back by 2-3 years. Considering how long it's already been, if I expected it to be another 3 years before this comes out I'd remove it from my bookmarks and try to forget about it, honestly.

 

[Excidium]

2 years old "news", that's a record.

 

[BLOBERT]

BRO THIS IS A LITTLE MISLEADING BECAUSE I THINK HIS MOST RECENT INFO SAID HE WAS GOING FOR A DIFFERENT GRAPHIC VIEW SOMETHING WITH TILES PORTRAITS AND NO ANIMATIONS

I COULD BE WRONG THOUGH

 

[mondblut]

But wouldn't it be great to have an editor like the one of Neverwinter Nights, with top-down 2D and turn-based combat?

You mean, like FRUA and Dungeon Craft and Blades of Exile and Realmz? ...Oh wait, they already exist.

Dropping existing features of dungeon interaction (i.e. listening at doors) is a BAD way to start with an editor. The number one difference between doing an editor and doing a game is realizing just because *you* can't find much use of some feature or another doesn't mean nobody else wouldn't. If you fail to realize that, stick to making non-moddable games and save other people's time otherwise spent on hacking and reverse engineering your code to enable stuff you deemed "unneeded".

 

[Elwro]

2 years old "news", that's a record.

Yeah, and I even pointed it out on the Watch in the comments

 

[thesheeep]

I had the feeling that I already read this somewhere before....

 

[OuterSpace]

BRO THIS IS A LITTLE MISLEADING BECAUSE I THINK HIS MOST RECENT INFO SAID HE WAS GOING FOR A DIFFERENT GRAPHIC VIEW SOMETHING WITH TILES PORTRAITS AND NO ANIMATIONS

I COULD BE WRONG THOUGH

you are not wrong. Halfway down page 3 forum thread he has a picture of the style hes going for.

 

[J_C]

from a low resolution window to high resolution (preferably a 1024x768 window) -

Yeeeeeey!

Something approaching the graphic quality of Temple of Elemental Evil for dungeon tiles would be ideal.

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY.

The game would still use .... the same kind of Ultima-VII perspective.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I hate that camera perspective. Somehow it doesn't feel right for me. Use a camera angel similare to the ones used in the infinity enginy, TOEE engine games.

 

[Bluebottle]

I'm still a little sceptical about the top down view sans animations. I like games that ape the mechanics of board games, but don't necessarily think that stretches to the presentation. Still, if he pulls off that modular style, with an easy to use editor, all will be forgiven.

 

[SCO]

I never knew Grunker was such a munchin

http://www.heroicfantasygames.com/Forum ... 59&start=0

What's wrong Grunker? Can't stand that wizards are the master raceclass?

 

[DwarvenFood]

I was initially excited, then I quickly realized it was a two years-old post.

That's good, means he already has some work done. Don't know about the modules vs. one big campaign though.

 

[Roguey]

Don't know about the modules vs. one big campaign though.

D&D pretty much always falls apart once you hit the mid-teens so I don't see anything wrong with this.

 

[Elwro]

This Watch / Codex posting 2 years old info as news thing just goes to show how badly most of us want KotC 2 to finally be released. Bring it on!


...and hopefully some the Dark Sun-emulating modules will appear, since we will have proper psionics!

 

[Shannow]

I was initially excited, then I quickly realized it was a two years-old post.

I was all "FUUUUuuuuu! I thought you fuck were near finished with KotC2 *grrrrr*"
Hearing that that was 2 year old news made me

 

[Jaesun]

This Watch / Codex posting 2 years old info as news thing just goes to show how badly most of us want KotC 2 to finally be released. Bring it on!


...and hopefully some the Dark Sun-emulating modules will appear, since we will have proper psionics!

So true.



and for not reading your comments on the watch.

Want. This. Game. Now.

 

[GarfunkeL]

Well, current status is that his making the ground work for KotC2. The actual game won't be out in years, probably, as the guy is also doing a some sort of RTS that uses the same engine.

 

[Charles-cgr]

Well, current status is that his making the ground work for KotC2. The actual game won't be out in years, probably, as the guy is also doing a some sort of RTS that uses the same engine.

Maybe he's going down the same path Gareth Fouche did. Make a game with a quicker return on investment to actually finance his dream project. After all KOTC was always a weekend deal for him and trust me, it gets old spending ALL your spare time on a game for years, let alone a second time around.

And everyone knows cRPGs are harder to make and sell less than just about any other type of game (but we're so much COOLER )

If that's true it may actually end up being a way to get KOTC2 (or FWE) done quicker. Or done at all!

 

[torpid]

Well, current status is that his making the ground work for KotC2. The actual game won't be out in years, probably, as the guy is also doing a some sort of RTS that uses the same engine.

Wait, what? Working on something else? When did that happen? He's not allowed to do that

 

[Elwro]

The actual game won't be out in years, probably, as the guy is also doing a some sort of RTS that uses the same engine.

WAT



Never heard of this!