A comparison of Oblivion and Dark Messiah

[LCJr.]

Time for the educational portion of our show.

History and inspiration
Cover of Usagi Yojimbo, book 11
Cover of Usagi Yojimbo, book 11

The term “Furry” is used to describe talking and anthropomorphic animal characters in fantasy art, literature and other forms of entertainment. The fandom for these characters traces its organization back to a science fiction convention in 1980[6], when a drawing of a character from Steve Gallacci’s Albedo started a discussion of anthropomorphic characters in science fiction novels, spawning a discussion group that met at various science fiction and comics conventions.

However, many individual fans claim the roots of the fandom go back much further. Titles such as Kimba, The White Lion from the mid 1960s, as well as Watership Down and Disney's Robin Hood from the early 1970s appear on many lists of significant events pertaining to the birth of the fandom.[7]

Over the course of the 1980s, a gradually increasing number of furry fans developed fanzines and eventually began to have gatherings at house parties. By 1987 enough interest had been generated for the first furry convention.[8]

Sex and furry fandom

Differing approaches to sexuality have at times been a source of divisions and controversy in the fandom. There are also a wide range of stereotypes about furries and sex. Protests have been made by members of the furry fandom against what they regard as "distasteful, unrelated, or deviant aspects" of the fandom, in particular by groups such as the "Burned Furs" (a protest group of the 1990s who felt their work and image was being seriously harmed by increased sexual aspects within the Fandom). [23]

Examples of mainstream "adult" aspects within the fandom include erotic furry art, a style sometimes known as yiffy art (from the subculture term "yiff" referring to sexual activity or arousal), and pornographic movies of sexual activities between participants wearing fursuits also exist.

The term furvert (a portmanteau of "furry" and "pervert") specifically refers to the subgroup of the fandom that sexualizes anthropomorphic animal characters.[24] The term may be used pejoratively, as a self-referential joke, or merely as a descriptor.

Many furry conventions make clear that guidelines of conduct exist restricting sexually explicit material and behavior to appropriate areas and situations, since the Fandom includes people of all ages and interests. [25]

Fandom survey

One survey which examined social and sexual attitudes in the Fandom is The Sociology of Furry Fandom by David J. Rust, covering 360 reports (325 in person, 35 online).[26]

Rust states that in regard to sex:

* Furries "report a rather non-judgemental attitude" to some aspects of sexuality,
* the Fandom contains a large proportion of people reporting homo- or bisexuality and/or polyamory (or other non-traditional forms of relationship)
o In the survey, 48% of those surveyed reported bisexuality, 25% were heterosexual, 19% were homosexual, and 8% were uncertain. Also, 2% stated an interest in zoophilia, and less than 1% stated an interest in plushophilia.
* furries have "a higher tolerance for variety in sexual orientation and activity", and that
* heterosexual furries "participate in [mixed gender] social body language between members of the same sex without any apparent threat to their sexual identity as a heterosexual"

He cited these as reasons why inaccurate perceptions of furries may arise. However, the accuracy of such statistics comes in to question, for two reasons. Since Rust's survey required respondents to submit a real name and identification, and 90% of the respondents answered in person, the reluctance to truthfully answer some of the questions without anonymity may have caused a statistical bias. Secondly, the rapidly growing size of the fandom quickly renders survey statistics obsolete. This particular survey was based on data compiled in 1997 and 1998, and published in 2002.

Typical furry propaganda. Trying to make people think it's a recent phenomenon and only a small minority are sick little perverts.

I personally think it's a stepping stone. Much like serial killers starting with torturing and killing animals before moving on to humans. One day you're trying to get your girlfriend in a fursuit and the next the family dog is walking funny and bleeding out the ass.

 

[mr nobuddy]

Jarl, I think you'll fit in just fine

 

[Jasede]

*snip*.

:D

 

[Nael]

You just got done writing a fucking report comparing two shit games. What other reasons do I need, douche?

Two shit games is your opinion about the games. They might not be good RPGs, but they are not completely shit games, at least not in my opinion.
And comparing two games is not a reason to be an idiot. Many professional reviewers [okay, many of these are idiots, but not all] do this, too. Oh, here in the forums they also compare.

Now go and find me another reason, fucktard.

Another reason? Asking for another reason is enough to make you a douche, but your love for these two games isn't enough? One of which is most certainly not a fucking RPG, and one which is in a margerine=butter sorta way. You could've at least posted in the correct forum.

Oh yeah, and you corrected someone for saying "ESF forums". Tie that in with the aformentioned game comparison, and I would say you are a douche. Can I get a witness?

 

[JarlFrank]

Jarl, I think you'll fit in just fine

Yes I think so too :D

@LCJr.:
Good. But I actually don't really care.
You know why?
I hate furry characters.
I don't know how often I have to repeat that until you finally get it.

 

[JarlFrank]

Another reason? Asking for another reason is enough to make you a douche, but your love for these two games isn't enough? One of which is most certainly not a fucking RPG, and one which is in a margerine=butter sorta way. You could've at least posted in the correct forum.

Oh yeah, and you corrected someone for saying "ESF forums". Tie that in with the aformentioned game comparison, and I would say you are a douche. Can I get a witness?

Time again to counter that, then.
I clearly said in my original post that Dark Messiah is an action game and not an RPG. And I clearly said that Oblivion is extremely lacking in RPG terms. If you would have read my post, you would know it. So you haven't read it.
Not having read my post and still claiming that I'm a douche is extremely retarted and makes you a douche. Touchè.

And I corrected him because he said that I suck because I come from the Elder Scrolls Forums. Correcting him was just meant as a proof that he also sucks, because he cannot even write TESF without making stupid mistakes.

So now come up with a valid reason or just accept the fact that you are retarted and envy me because I just made a longer post with this thread than you ever made.

 

[MacBone]

JarlFrank, check out this thread: http://www.rpgcodex.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=13204.

Read the first post if you want, but scroll on down to Greatatlantic's post.

 

[LCJr.]

Admit it Frankie it gets you hot.

 

[JarlFrank]

@LCJR.:
No, actually I find it disgusting. I would post pictures of what I like, but I think you would go and puke if you saw my fetishes.

@MacBone:
Luckily I followed Greatatlantic's rule number 4.

 

[Nael]

JarlFrank, check out this thread: http://www.rpgcodex.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=13204.

Read the first post if you want, but scroll on down to Greatatlantic's post.

I bet money he'll take everything we say personally, and to heart. I still think he's a douche, too.

 

[ixg]

I still think he's a douche, too.

It's not hard to come to that conclusion.

 

[Nael]

Time again to counter that, then.
I clearly said in my original post that Dark Messiah is an action game and not an RPG. And I clearly said that Oblivion is extremely lacking in RPG terms. If you would have read my post, you would know it. So you haven't read it.
Not having read my post and still claiming that I'm a douche is extremely retarted and makes you a douche. Touchè.

I think that's why I said you posted this in the wrong forum. Touch(è) your fucking self.

I just made a longer post with this thread than you ever made

You ESFtards are so damn predictable. I can say alot more with a solitary word than you ever could with your rambling bullshit. Douche.

 

[JarlFrank]

You ESFtards are so damn predictable. I can say alot more with a solitary word than you ever could with your rambling bullshit. Douche.

So the fact that I am a member in the Elder Scrolls Forums means that I'm a douche. What a connection. Isn't this some kind of stereotyping? Claiming that absolutely everyone from that forum is like these stupid 13 year old fanboys?
I would listen to you if you came up with something reasonable, and not just stupid rantings claiming that I'm an idiot only based on the fact that I compared two sucky games and that I come from the ESF. Come up with something more intelligent and then try again.

 

[Nael]

Oh. My. God.

He still doesn't fucking get it!

 

[Warlord_peecard]

Admit it Frankie it gets you hot.

Way!!!! to go leeroy you revealed yourself , god those pics are disqusting how can you get turned on with that stuff.

 

[JarlFrank]

Oh. My. God.

He still doesn't fucking get it!

Doesn't seem that you would get it, smartboy.

 

[jeansberg]

@LCJR.:
No, actually I find it disgusting. I would post pictures of what I like, but I think you would go and puke if you saw my fetishes.

Try us. :D

 

[JarlFrank]

@LCJR.:
No, actually I find it disgusting. I would post pictures of what I like, but I think you would go and puke if you saw my fetishes.

Try us. :D

You want it.

behold, the Blood Fetish!
Now what's better than a girl all covered in blood, yum.

 

[Nael]

@LCJR.:
No, actually I find it disgusting. I would post pictures of what I like, but I think you would go and puke if you saw my fetishes.

Try us. :D

Apparently he's never met Nicolai...

^^Btw, that bitch is actually attractive and it's probably not even her own blood. Is that the best you can do?

 

[Cthulhugoat]

Is that a penis?

 

[Warlord_peecard]

[/quote] You want it.

behold, the Blood Fetish!
Now what's better than a girl all covered in blood, yum.[/quote]


Im going to kill myself! seriously thats SICK! SICK SICK SICK!. Not even a lunatic like me can handle blood licking/mutilation.

@Cthulhu
Lets hope it is, frank is psychopath.

 

[JarlFrank]

^^Btw, that bitch is actually attractive and it's probably not even her own blood. Is that the best you can do?

The best of photos that I can find in the internet
And no, I would not post some private pictures in an internet forum, so don't even ask

 

[Jasede]

Let's make a "your favourite fetish" thread!

 

[SanguinePenguin]

 

[Twisted_Ferret]

QFMFT