skyway said:
Man - with the mentality like this one we can forgive any shit to any corporation.
The fact - the are guilty of PC market's decline, people who work for them know that perfectly. EA also closed other studios, making more talented people lose their jobs (LGS, Westwood, Bullfrog, Origin) while keeping talentless pricks. Hey I will be very happy when EA will go belly up.
Okay. I am going to explain this to you once again, since clearly the divide between your mind and reality is great indeed. There is a difference between feeling empathy for people who are losing their jobs and forgiving stupid shit a corporation does. It sucks that the peons at Enron had to suffer because of the fuck-ups the higher-ups made, and feeling empathy for those people does not "forgive" the company's inexcusable business practices.
However, we're not even talking about something nearly as serious as Enron. We're talking about a company that makes fucking LEISURE products - a luxury, not a necessity. Most of the people who work for EA have absolutely no idea that EA helped cause the PC market's decline. In fact, many of them probably have very little idea about the gaming industry in general. The marketing people, the accounting people, the office administrators, and yes, even some of the developers - I really doubt they have any perception of the PC market's decline, based off of my own experiences working for software and non-software companies. There is not some giant conspiracy between the thousands of people who work at EA to high-five each other at the downfall of PC gaming. Most of the people who work there are just everyday people trying to make a living, and probably couldn't give two shits if PC gaming survives or not as long as they can get a paycheck the next week. And why the fuck should they?
I mourned the loss of those studios as well, especially Origin, and if the people who made the call to purchase/rape/dissolve those studios lost their jobs, I'd be glad, as they hurt not only the industry but the people in it. However, if EA were to announce layoffs today, I would still think it sucks that people who had no say in those decisions also have to lose their jobs.
In real life in general - not just software companies - the people most responsible for a company's fuck-ups are not usually the ones who suffer for it. Are you SERIOUSLY not able to see the difference between a company and the lower-level people who work for it and that it's absurd to wish for bad things to happen to those people who had NO control over the things you didn't like? You seem to view corporations as giant evil monsters and everyone who works there shares the responsibility for everything that company does that you don't happen to like.
I can't believe that in a single hour I got more flawed logic from a one man (at the fucking Codex no less) than I usually get when I troll xbawks kids at their own forums from many of them.
No wonder you claim the "xbawks kids" have "flawed logic" if you twist their arguments as much as you do mine.
You can't compare video game market to anything
There are metaphors you can use for video games and the video game industry. "Getting served shit after you've been promised steak" is not one of them. Just because you fucking suck at coming up with proper analogies doesn't mean they don't exist, and I never claimed otherwise.
You can't criticize games because you don't make one
As I made quite clear, there is a difference between valid criticisms of a game - and every game has SOMETHING to criticize - and just whining incessantly. Take VD's review of Oblivion - accurate and scathing, criticizing the game on the aspects that deserved to be criticized. Yet somehow he doesn't feel the need to go into every thread regarding Oblivion or Bethesda and shout "OBLIVION FUCKING SUCKED!" That's the difference between being a critic and being a whiner. There's a reason everyone here considers you a whiny cunt - and that's in the company of the already-elitist Codex.
You can't criticize shit product because people are making it!
So instead of twisting an existing argument, you've just decided to make new shit up entirely. Feeling empathy for another person because they lost their job - even if the company does shit you don't approve of - doesn't have ANYTHING to do with not criticizing the things they make. Where the fuck did you even find this argument, the same place you found your shitty metaphor?
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