Eternity Avowed - Obsidian's first person action-RPG in the Pillars of Eternity setting - coming February 18th

[luj1]

Obsidian's most beautiful games: we haven't seen yet.

Pillars is kinda pretty, but it doesn't matter because systems, writing and gameplay are mediocre at best

 

[luj1]

RPGCodex still has high hopes on this game

I honestly don't know who has high hopes on this game? It's only Infinitron and Roguey but they are known as Obsidian fanboys and shills

 

[Takamori]

I don't have high hopes, I used to play a lot of Obsidian games and got disappointed after PoE 2.
And instead of trying to fix the already mentioned problems looks like they just gave up, accept the Microsoft bribe and pump whatever slop the retard in command throws in their plates.

 

[Vyvian]

I don't have high hopes. We have the classic quippy companion that just has to comment on everything and when the director warns people to expect some "jank" that doesn't inspire confidence in me.

People forgave Obsidian "jank" because the perception was they were always under the gun and rushed, I don't see that same belief with Avowed.

 

[FreeKaner]

I don't have high hopes. We have the classic quippy companion that just has to comment on everything and when the director warns people to expect some "jank" that doesn't inspire confidence in me.

Developer warns people to expect some jank to get your hopes up actually, it will be a terrible thing to betray that if there isn't some fun in it.

 

[Takamori]

I don't have high hopes. We have the classic quippy companion that just has to comment on everything and when the director warns people to expect some "jank" that doesn't inspire confidence in me.

Yeah its basically translated to me as : Expect another mediocre AA game like the Outer worlds.

 

[FreeKaner]

RPGCodex still has high hopes on this game. The art style sucks and iam no more interested in pillars universe.

This game has massive critical to outright negative responses wherever I look, best it gets seems pessimistic cynicism.

 

[Butter]

It isn't linear inherently because it's incrementals to a multiplier, so investing each point yields progressively more, but without pushing players into min-maxing. But CRPGs players get offended when a game isn't trying to be a dnd 3.5 copycat, now with waifubait shit.

Ignoring your retarded non sequitur about 3.5 and waifus. It is in fact linear.

Spoiler

Shame on you for forcing me to reinstall this game to win an Internet argument.

You mean the stage in which you require 3 or 4 points in other systems?

This is how I know you're crying into your soylent as you type this. You completely missed my point in bringing up the attributes, but you thought you had a gotcha here so you went with it. My point was that the combination of systems (linear scaling, increasing cost at higher values, giving the player a point each level) incentivizes putting everything to 18, which is boring.

Obsidian are by far the least money grubbing CRPG company today. Compare it with Owlcat or Larian stuff and I doubt you can claim Tyranny was overly monetized without making clear you have a negative bias.

You really don't have to die on this hill mate. "It's OK when Obsidian does it!" And then you chose Larian, a studio that didn't even release DLC for their last game, even though it would've made them a shitzillion dollars. Pure insanity. I honestly feel bad for you being this emotionally invested in Tyranny of all things.

Incomplete games are always the most soulful games

Having one dungeon is soulful. Having no enemy variety is soulful. Dragon Age 2 is peak SOVL.

I'm not addressing the rest of your inane garbage. Seek help. (I don't actually care that this is derailing the thread from discussing Avowed lmao).

 

[SayMyName]

It isn't linear inherently because it's incrementals to a multiplier, so investing each point yields progressively more, but without pushing players into min-maxing. But CRPGs players get offended when a game isn't trying to be a dnd 3.5 copycat, now with waifubait shit.

Ignoring your retarded non sequitur about 3.5 and waifus. It is in fact linear.

Spoiler

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Shame on you for forcing me to reinstall this game to win an Internet argument.

You mean the stage in which you require 3 or 4 points in other systems?

This is how I know you're crying into your soylent as you type this. You completely missed my point in bringing up the attributes, but you thought you had a gotcha here so you went with it. My point was that the combination of systems (linear scaling, increasing cost at higher values, giving the player a point each level) incentivizes putting everything to 18, which is boring.

Obsidian are by far the least money grubbing CRPG company today. Compare it with Owlcat or Larian stuff and I doubt you can claim Tyranny was overly monetized without making clear you have a negative bias.

You really don't have to die on this hill mate. "It's OK when Obsidian does it!" And then you chose Larian, a studio that didn't even release DLC for their last game, even though it would've made them a shitzillion dollars. Pure insanity. I honestly feel bad for you being this emotionally invested in Tyranny of all things.

Incomplete games are always the most soulful games

Having one dungeon is soulful. Having no enemy variety is soulful. Dragon Age 2 is peak SOVL.

I'm not addressing the rest of your inane garbage. Seek help. (I don't actually care that this is derailing the thread from discussing Avowed lmao).

Again, you are legitimately being retarded.
The percentage you see is a multiplier on a value that raises with leveling.
12 Vitality at level 50 is way different from 12 Vitality at level 10.
20 Vitality at level 50 is much higher than 20 Vitality at level 20.
The more you increase vitality, the steeper your curve is with leveling

Vitality is Bonus Health PER LEVEL ad applies retroactively
What increases lineary is a multiplier, but not the actual effect on stats

This is also great, and better than DnD, because balance man is based and made a system where min-maxing is rewarded, but not overly rewarded than investing moderately is a waste of points.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Tyranny was ok, but the shorter game design clearly didn't work with how the story progressed into a meh cliffhanger ending that isn't particularly satisfying. Perhaps it'd feel less jarring if it was longer since you'd be more invested in the faction(s) that you've aligned yourself with along the way hence you lording over them in the ending would feel more satisfying as its own thing rather than as a setup for a possible sequel, but who knows.

 

[SayMyName]

, a studio that didn't even release DLC for their last game

Quit your bullshit, they had issues with WotC management and cancelled the DLCs, it has nothing to do with Sven's bullshit peddling

 

[FreeKaner]

Which is also a shame, BG3 could really use a few DLCs. It especially needs more padding on the evil path for especially act 1, where it is pretty much flat out a fail state since you lose so much player power for no gain whatsoever and act 2 where it is more like hardmode and again losing so much player power. I suppose it follows the Tolkienism that one who falls to dark side loses their power (and bunch of unique items, evidently).

 

[Heroic Liberator]

As previously stated,

I think BG3 would've worked best as a duology. Perfect ending for the first game with Ketheric as the final boss and the narrative reveal of the Dead Three's plan, then the second game could've had an intro where you reach Baldur's Gate, a first chapter focused on the lower city and Bhaal, a second chapter focused on the upper city and Bane and then the final shorter chapter dealing with the Absolute and the ramifications of your actions and choices within the prior chapters. Naturally, it could've also had quests that take you to other realms (e.g. Avernus) while otherwise being mostly limited to the city of Baldur's Gate.

 

[SayMyName]

Which is also a shame, BG3 could really use a few DLCs. It especially needs more padding on the evil path for especially act 1, where it is pretty much flat out a fail state since you lose so much player power for no gain whatsoever and act 2 where it is more like hardmode and again losing so much player power. I suppose it follows the Tolkienism that one who falls to dark side loses their power (and bunch of unique items, evidently).

BG3 was clearly meant to have more DLCs, arguably designed for it, which makes Vincke pretending there's some sort of artistic vision around foregoing DLCs they were actually developing all the more vile.

I'm just amazed that someone would make long arguments of being offended at game mechanics he doesn't even understand in the most basic functions

 

[SayMyName]

It isn't linear inherently because it's incrementals to a multiplier, so investing each point yields progressively more, but without pushing players into min-maxing. But CRPGs players get offended when a game isn't trying to be a dnd 3.5 copycat, now with waifubait shit.

Ignoring your retarded non sequitur about 3.5 and waifus. It is in fact linear.

Spoiler

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Shame on you for forcing me to reinstall this game to win an Internet argument.

You mean the stage in which you require 3 or 4 points in other systems?

This is how I know you're crying into your soylent as you type this. You completely missed my point in bringing up the attributes, but you thought you had a gotcha here so you went with it. My point was that the combination of systems (linear scaling, increasing cost at higher values, giving the player a point each level) incentivizes putting everything to 18, which is boring.

Obsidian are by far the least money grubbing CRPG company today. Compare it with Owlcat or Larian stuff and I doubt you can claim Tyranny was overly monetized without making clear you have a negative bias.

You really don't have to die on this hill mate. "It's OK when Obsidian does it!" And then you chose Larian, a studio that didn't even release DLC for their last game, even though it would've made them a shitzillion dollars. Pure insanity. I honestly feel bad for you being this emotionally invested in Tyranny of all things.

Incomplete games are always the most soulful games

Having one dungeon is soulful. Having no enemy variety is soulful. Dragon Age 2 is peak SOVL.

I'm not addressing the rest of your inane garbage. Seek help. (I don't actually care that this is derailing the thread from discussing Avowed lmao).

Reaction isn't a substitute for an argument, clown

 

[Sherry]

Hi.

With just a few days remaining until The Living Lands can be fully explored, how about enjoying a few meaty tidbits on the region that you will be able to visit yourself, as well as meet face to face!

Galawain's Tusks

Galawain's Tusks, a volcanic region in the Living Lands, is home to the isolationist Pargrunen dwarves of Solace. Their stronghold, Solace Keep, protects them from deadly creatures—xaurips, giant beetles, and the roaming undead. Few dare venture into Galawain's Tusks, and even fewer return.

Inquisitor Lödwyn

Inquisitor Lödwyn is the leader of the Steel Garrote paladins—commanding with unmatched authority. She fell in the battle in the Deadfire Archipelago and later returned as a death guard. Unyielding and merciless, Lödwyn strikes fear in all who oppose her.

Thanks,
Sherry

Do we know if the inquisitor still has same voice actor, Sherry? She had done a great job in Deadfire to sell not only her character but also Steel Garrote and Woedicans in general as well.

Hi.

Gosh that is a really good question considering Lödwyn is now a death guard, brought back after the player killed her in Oathbinder's Sanctum - or in the battle in the Deadfire Archipelago. Regardless on what the player decided to do, she dies anyway in the timeline before Avowed. What is Woedica up to? That is if she has anything to do with this at all.

Thanks,
Sherry

 

[FreeKaner]

Hi.

Gosh that is a really good question considering Lödwyn is now a death guard, brought back after the player killed her in Oathbinder's Sanctum - or in the battle in the Deadfire Archipelago. Regardless on what the player decided to do, she dies anyway in the timeline before Avowed. What is Woedica up to? That is if she has anything to do with this at all.

Thanks,
Sherry

Sherry I know you are our local handler but you can't just be spoiling that Woedica is puppeteering Lödwyn like this. Is it Woedica's voice actor at least?

 

[HumanMaleFighter]

This is also great, and better than DnD

lol. lmao.

It's hard fucking work to come up with a system that's worse than modern DnD. Which is why Solasta, which hews pretty closely to the core rules, plays like dogshit -- and it's why BG3 had to be homebrewed to hell and back. (And the really funny part is that WotC "borrowed" some of Larian's innovations for DnD 2024, "DEI DnD.") 5e is not dynamic and, as Solasta proves beyond a shadow of a doubt, it's not fun.

DnD also has a problem right now in that they pushed abstraction a little bit too far. Nobody knows what the stats even represent, at this point. Nobody knows what HP is actually supposed to represent. It's all left to the imagination and rationalizations of R*dditors and midwits. 5e is one of the most abstract and least realistic systems possible.

ChatGPT (free tier) can literally come up with several better systems in the time it takes you to make a sandwich. I'm not even joking.

The Pillars system was okay but suffered a little bit from a opacity and over-balancing in PoE1, especially where casters were concerned. PoE2 just plain wasn't balanced properly at all, it was ackshually completely botched, with everything being too difficult at low levels and far too easy from mid to high levels.

I wonder how Avowed is going to be. The soundtrack, at least, has sovl.

 

[luj1]

As you see only literal insane trannies are wating for this game

 

[Modron]

Everyone is waiting for Never Second in Rome to come out the same day.

 

[Harthwain]

I didn't think Tyranny was as bad as some people here think it was. Mediocre would probably be a better description. To me the biggest issues were that the first part of the game was the only one that felt really meaningful. Another was a very limited companion pool. Both in terms of the number of party members and the overall number of characters you can recruit. Even Pillars of Eternity allowed for 5 party members.