Eternity Avowed - Obsidian's first person action-RPG in the Pillars of Eternity setting - coming February 18th

[Dishonoredbr]

Avowed today right guys... r-right

Why would there be anything today? Wait till June.

I'm coping so hard that i accidentally time traveled two month fowards, my bad.

 

[Immortal]

I'm coping so hard that i accidentally time traveled two month fowards, my bad.

Can't tell if your being serious.

Is anyone actually excited to see Nuu-Obsidians take on PoE Skyrim after that last turd?
Pre-The Outer Worlds, I'd be cautiously optimistic.. maybe, especially if Leonard and Tim were skulking around - but now ?

Having watched that soulless space excrement get squeezed out by the troika-bro's onto Unreal Marketplace.... .. .. Struggling how anyone can be optimistic for this.

Who the fuck is even working at Obsidian anymore, that hasn't quit, been laid off, or given up on life completely.

 

[vitellus]

I'm coping so hard that i accidentally time traveled two month fowards, my bad.

Can't tell if your being serious.

Is anyone actually excited to see Nuu-Obsidians take on PoE Skyrim after that last turd?
Pre-The Outer Worlds, I'd be cautiously optimistic.. maybe, especially if Leonard and Tim were skulking around - but now ?

Having watched that soulless space excrement get squeezed out by the troika-bro's onto Unreal Marketplace.... .. .. Struggling how anyone can be optimistic for this.

Who the fuck is even working at Obsidian anymore, that hasn't quit, been laid off, or given up on life completely.

face it, after a certain point of success, especially if you get lucky and make well received games in the past, investors come in and then investors do what investors do, aim for profits today without thought for the future, and that is to make it accessible for as many consumers as can be theoretically reached. interesting campaign setting filled with slavery and heroes with even more questionable morals? nope, might offend someone so that's gotta go in favor of generic bullshit that everyone already knows. it's either that or they create a framework to sell you dlc for (see paradox studios)

capitalism™ will make you rich, but it will absolutely deliver soulless shit.

it should be noted that i haven't and won't play penistent as it looks and sounds and seems really fucking boring.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

If it was named Penistent I might actually play it.

 

[Ryzer]

If it was named Penistent I might actually play it.

If they deliver a game like Skyrim but good, I think they will attract a much bigger fanbase than anything they have released so far except New Vegas. People are hungry for this type of games and want to go "Oh my gosh I want to touch this flower". I mean see Gothic and Bethesda popularity, there is no contest that from an economic perspective it works.

 

[Delterius]

Pre-The Outer Worlds

i see where you're coming from. obsidian's space game was truly heartwarming but with all the firings surrounding this development there is no way avowed will be as consistent and professionally made as the outer worlds.

 

[Roguey]

If they deliver a game like Skyrim but good, I think they will attract a much bigger fanbase than anything they have released so far except New Vegas. People are hungry for this type of games and want to go "Oh my gosh I want to touch this flower". I mean see Gothic and Bethesda popularity, there is no contest that from an economic perspective it works.

Leaks said Skryim's out, it's fantasy Outer Worlds.

 

[KateMicucci]

If it was named Penistent I might actually play it.

If they deliver a game like Skyrim but good, I think they will attract a much bigger fanbase than anything they have released so far except New Vegas. People are hungry for this type of games and want to go "Oh my gosh I want to touch this flower". I mean see Gothic and Bethesda popularity, there is no contest that from an economic perspective it works.

maybe it *will* be good

 

[KateMicucci]

If they deliver a game like Skyrim but good, I think they will attract a much bigger fanbase than anything they have released so far except New Vegas. People are hungry for this type of games and want to go "Oh my gosh I want to touch this flower". I mean see Gothic and Bethesda popularity, there is no contest that from an economic perspective it works.

Leaks said Skryim's out, it's fantasy Outer Worlds.

what does that mean

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

Lots of geometric shapes.

 

[Delterius]

If they deliver a game like Skyrim but good, I think they will attract a much bigger fanbase than anything they have released so far except New Vegas. People are hungry for this type of games and want to go "Oh my gosh I want to touch this flower". I mean see Gothic and Bethesda popularity, there is no contest that from an economic perspective it works.

Leaks said Skryim's out, it's fantasy Outer Worlds.

what does that mean

lets just say that they kinda diminished their expectations for breadth of content

Bethesda level of features

people always say skyrim is wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle

turns out diggin' an ocean-wide puddle is still a lot of work

 

[Cross]

If they deliver a game like Skyrim but good, I think they will attract a much bigger fanbase than anything they have released so far except New Vegas. People are hungry for this type of games and want to go "Oh my gosh I want to touch this flower". I mean see Gothic and Bethesda popularity, there is no contest that from an economic perspective it works.

Leaks said Skryim's out, it's fantasy Outer Worlds.

Maybe in terms of making a hub-based rather than an open-world game, but mechanically, they're making a Skyrim clone. They gave interviews talking about how they're copying many of Skyrim's aspects, like the shitty combat system and the dumb mechanic of equipping spells to your right and left hand.

 

[frajaq]

Avowed today right guys... r-right

Why would there be anything today? Wait till June.

whats happening in June?

 

[CrunchyHemorrhoids]

whats happening in June?

Not-E3.

 

[Delterius]

Avowed today right guys... r-right

Why would there be anything today? Wait till June.

whats happening in June?

one of the indie studio heads that microsoft bought is gonna be executed by bill gates

 

[Ryzer]

If they deliver a game like Skyrim but good, I think they will attract a much bigger fanbase than anything they have released so far except New Vegas. People are hungry for this type of games and want to go "Oh my gosh I want to touch this flower". I mean see Gothic and Bethesda popularity, there is no contest that from an economic perspective it works.

Leaks said Skryim's out, it's fantasy Outer Worlds.

Leaks are often not true but it reminds me of this review on Glassdoor:

Overscoped projects, nepotism, living in the past​

May 16, 2021 - Anonymous Employee
Recommend
CEO Approval
Business Outlook
Pros
Skilled and hardworking team members who are mostly trying to do their best. Cool stuff from the smaller teams.
Cons
Vastly overscoped projects. Gaslighting when backpedaling on overscoped requests. Embarrassingly limited understanding of what makes a "AAA" game. Almost nonexistent understanding of modern sustainable production. The review titled "subsistence-level game development" is sadly still true. Much of the practices stem from a game dev philosophy of 20+ years ago and many leads and directors cling to ideals from that era. Upper management reacts at a glacial pace to team pleas for help.

Although the last two reviews posted on Glassdoor are positive so it seems they have taken the critics into account.

 

[Roguey]

Leaks are often not true but it reminds me of this review on Glassdoor:

The leak came from Jez Corden who's one of the biggest Obsidian/Microsoft shills around.

 

[Delterius]

its may 15th, 2021

you're a young developer straight out of gamer college, ready to follow your dreams

actually that was months ago. by now you've aged so badly your genetic code retroactively gained trait for baldness

you're sitting on a giant pile of requests from 5 different leads. all of them ozymandian in scope. you've answered each and every one of them with the question 'but how though?'

each one of your leads - all of them great legends of the industry in their own right, having worked projects such as 'new vegas' and 'new vegas 2 (cancelled)' - has shot back at your question in the same way:

'i dunno call todd and ask for their tools or something'

you've decided you're gonna quit today. your cousin's 'bored ape' company is doing really well and he needs help writing a tax evasion algorithm.

 

[Zariusz]

I honestly forgot about this existing, its funny to think that Starfield will launch before this.

 

[Immortal]

each one of your leads - all of them great legends of the industry in their own right, having worked projects such as 'new vegas' and 'new vegas 2 (cancelled)'

Tim Cain Made Fallout 1 from scratch by himself!!!!!

And.. Arcanum....
And Designed Wildstar..
And idolized World of Warcraft as a source of inspiration for keep management in pillars of-OHhHhhhhhhhNoooo...........


B-b-but Leonard..!!
He... He... he worked at blizzard.. On.. uhm... .. uh....... *brain aneurysm* Diablo...! Right? diablo cancelled project number 2..? no 3... definitely 3.

 

[Roguey]

I honestly forgot about this existing, its funny to think that Starfield will launch before this.

Starfield's been in development since late 2015, much longer.

 

[TheEntitledOne]

You can't cancel a game called avowed that would be too on the nose.

Honestly, I couldn't tell it apart from Forspoken or whatever.
I just call them Awoked and Forwoken

 

[Dishonoredbr]

I'm coping so hard that i accidentally time traveled two month fowards, my bad.

Can't tell if your being serious.

Is anyone actually excited to see Nuu-Obsidians take on PoE Skyrim after that last turd?
Pre-The Outer Worlds, I'd be cautiously optimistic.. maybe, especially if Leonard and Tim were skulking around - but now ?

Having watched that soulless space excrement get squeezed out by the troika-bro's onto Unreal Marketplace.... .. .. Struggling how anyone can be optimistic for this.

Who the fuck is even working at Obsidian anymore, that hasn't quit, been laid off, or given up on life completely.

face it, after a certain point of success, especially if you get lucky and make well received games in the past, investors come in and then investors do what investors do, aim for profits today without thought for the future, and that is to make it accessible for as many consumers as can be theoretically reached. interesting campaign setting filled with slavery and heroes with even more questionable morals? nope, might offend someone so that's gotta go in favor of generic bullshit that everyone already knows. it's either that or they create a framework to sell you dlc for (see paradox studios)

capitalism™ will make you rich, but it will absolutely deliver soulless shit.

it should be noted that i haven't and won't play penistent as it looks and sounds and seems really fucking boring.

Honestly i just want something like Elders Scrolls but that's actually good, like someone else said.

I didn't liked Oblivion and Skyrim is enjoyable with 100+ mods to turn into another game, so might as well play another game that doesn't crash every 3 minutes after troubleshooting for 3 days, plus Obsidian games even the worst one, have more reactivy and in playstyles than something made by Bethesda..

I can't lie and say i not excited to see some cool reactivy towards my Moon Godlike or have a dialogue system with more than 4 Skill checks in the whole game.
The bar for fantasy RPG (that isn't a CRPG) is so low that anything half decent will do it and if it's shit, i can come here to have some laughs.

 

[Butter]

Honestly i just want something like Elders Scrolls but that's actually good, like someone else said.

This is evidently too much to ask.

 

[Immortal]

Last week someone on the mostly-dead Obsidian forums noticed Jez the shill had some more Avowed news https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/128398-avowed-development-issues/?do=findComment&comment=2344950

Jez Corden (notable Xbox podcaster) stated in his podcast (link below) that initially Obsidian felt like they needed to reach Bethesda level of features for Avowed (by adding additional stuff like 4-player coop) because they wanted to impress Microsoft. However, they later realized that they're a much smaller studio compared to Bethesda's massive workforce and had to curtail their ambitious plans.


Jez later clarified that Obsidian actually changed the direction of the game's development by focusing only on features that they're familiar with (such as deeper RPG mechanics and branching storylines). They're basically aiming to make Avowed a drastically enhanced version of the Outer Worlds. If you ask me, this seems like a positive direction for the game's development. Fingers crossed...

Multiplayer out (why was it even in?), open world out. Pie-in-the-sky features wish list, curbed. Gotta ship something.

I actually blame Larian for this.
They've popularized a long thought "dead genre".. and I get the sense that game designers & business suits (Obsidian especially who got dabbed the fuck on in sales) attribute that success to the co-op..
Which is annoying because the whole couch play / online drop-in co-op feature seems to be getting onto design docs for everything now and it's kinda - worthless / detrimental to what I want from single player RPGs.

AKA: What are we losing in content and narrative delivery just so that 4 assholes can connect online and start running in 4 directions randomly killing shit.


Frankly.. I agree with Jez Shillden here.
I still think the game is gonna be a turd though.