Eternity Avowed - Obsidian's first person action-RPG in the Pillars of Eternity setting - coming February 18th

[KeighnMcDeath]

They're still working on this? Honestly, I thought it was tossed in the the zombieware crypt.

 

[just]

Haha, Avowed is delayed.

I'm hearing a bunch of interesting shit, including:

1) The place has been in turmoil since their CEO Urquhart died(inside) a few years ago.
2) There are company-wide issues with management, for example with their best writer Megan Starks leaving them, apparently there are major disagreements/power struggles including how to integrate with Xbox/MSFT.
3) Parker was made Head of not Publishing but nobody knows what that means exactly
4) People really phoned it in over Covid. Especially a lot of the higher ups who got paid millions when the company was acquired by MSFT (Urquhart took care of himself). But high level employees were doing crazy shit like calling into meetings from the Caribbean properties they had bought. Just a total lack of give-a-shit
5) Josh Sawyer is apparently one of the only guys left over there in a senior position who actually wants to make visual novels.

 

[StrongBelwas]

I actually blame Larian for this.
They've popularized a long thought "dead genre".. and I get the sense that game designers & business suits (Obsidian especially who got dabbed the fuck on in sales) attribute that success to the co-op..
Which is annoying because the whole couch play / online drop-in co-op feature seems to be getting onto design docs for everything now and it's kinda - worthless / detrimental to what I want from single player RPGs.

I don't care for co-op RPGs much either, but do you think they are wrong to think so?

 

[Immortal]

I actually blame Larian for this.
They've popularized a long thought "dead genre".. and I get the sense that game designers & business suits (Obsidian especially who got dabbed the fuck on in sales) attribute that success to the co-op..
Which is annoying because the whole couch play / online drop-in co-op feature seems to be getting onto design docs for everything now and it's kinda - worthless / detrimental to what I want from single player RPGs.

I don't care for co-op RPGs much either, but do you think they are wrong to think so?

I don't know.
DoS and DoS2 are infinitely more enjoyable for me than PoE is. I never touched the co-op.

Is that the reason for their sales or was it co-op? Would Deadfire be more successful if it had Co-op/ Online? How much?

I can't possibly know without the shoutbox 8ball.

EDIT

To make my point more clear.. when your solution to push more sales is "add online" instead of "make a better game" - it makes me jaded.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

After OW I just stopped bothering following this company. This video sounds like AI impersonating some dude from india. And it is pointless to watch.

 

[Gargaune]

Leaks said Skryim's out, it's fantasy Outer Worlds.

The Other Outer Worlds™.

 

[Mebrilia the Viera Queen]

"They're basically aiming to make Avowed a drastically enhanced version of the Outer Worlds"
Instant skip for me.

 

[Alienman]

I'm thinking first person Dungeon Siege 3.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

First Person Angels Online. Boot up and the game finishes itself.

 

[vitellus]

"They're basically aiming to make Avowed a drastically enhanced version of the Outer Worlds"
Instant skip for me.

Hey now, always give a cracked version a go, that way no matter how fucking terrible it will ultimately be, you're only out some time on this...thing they're making.

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[Gargaune]

Obsidian when you were dating:
Mask of the Betrayer, The Sith Lords, New Vegas

Obsidian now that you're married:
Deadfire, The Otter Worlds, Pentiment

Hey now, always give a cracked version a go, that way no matter how fucking terrible it will ultimately be, you're only out some time on this...thing they're making.

Time is money.

 

[Ryzer]

"They're basically aiming to make Avowed a drastically enhanced version of the Outer Worlds"
Instant skip for me.

Even Skyrim is way too much for Obsidian.
They should just stick at making Grounded king of games and cut the bullshit about making Roleplaying games heavily focused on story if they can't follow up the pace.

 

[Skorpion]

Skyrim (for whatever your opinion of it was) moved xbox units.
MS acquired this studio and Im pretty sure the first meeting was "what if you made it more like Skyrim."
Obsidian said they could to please their MS overlords. They cant and now here we are.
I expect heads to start rolling as this gets further delayed.

 

[Ryzer]

Skyrim (for whatever your opinion of it was) moved xbox units.
MS acquired this studio and Im pretty sure the first meeting was "what if you made it more like Skyrim."
Obsidian said they could to please their MS overlords. They cant and now here we are.
I expect heads to start rolling as this gets further delayed.

Can't Microsoft just send their teams to help them? It's not like Microsoft is a small publisher after all. Sometimes I wonder how companies under such industrial giants like these are still mismanaged or lack the funds/staff.

 

[Roguey]

Can't Microsoft just send their teams to help them? It's not like Microsoft is a small publisher after all. Sometimes I wonder how companies under such industrial giants like these are still mismanaged or lack the funds/staff.

Only Obsidian can fix their own mess, but they did hire a babysitter after the Parker troubles.

 

[Zombra]

Can't Microsoft just send their teams to help them? It's not like Microsoft is a small publisher after all. Sometimes I wonder how companies under such industrial giants like these are still mismanaged or lack the funds/staff.

Hey, you don't get rich by throwing more money at every underperformer.

 

[Delterius]

Skyrim (for whatever your opinion of it was) moved xbox units.
MS acquired this studio and Im pretty sure the first meeting was "what if you made it more like Skyrim."
Obsidian said they could to please their MS overlords. They cant and now here we are.
I expect heads to start rolling as this gets further delayed.

Can't Microsoft just send their teams to help them? It's not like Microsoft is a small publisher after all. Sometimes I wonder how companies under such industrial giants like these are still mismanaged or lack the funds/staff.

do you want to be the first guy to argue that microsoft's acquisition of obsidian was not a good idea? even if were not involved with the purchase that would put you in the 'lets just close this EA style' camp

 

[Feyd Rautha]

It lives?

 

[Wunderbar]

It lives?

see you in 2035

 

[Infinitron]

That's just a fan account.

 

[CthuluIsSpy]

> Nice Variety
> All the same game
Lol, great sarcasm

 

[GhostCow]

I completely forgot that there is a new Fable being made. I know it's not going to be good, but I really wish it would be. Just make something similar to the first game with better graphics and less dumb shit like boasts. I miss the very British style of humor that games like Fable and Giants: Citizen Kabuto had.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

Fable is the only game that has me even remotely interested out of that list though. Maybe the Henua one too. I still have to play the first one.

 

[Feyd Rautha]

That's just a fan account.

Ok I thought it looked like some official account. That explains a lot.

 

[Delterius]

That's just a fan account.

guy must have been the very first to buy their verification, lol