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Eternity AVOWED - Obsidian's Skyrim clone set in the Pillars of Eternity setting

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Regarding marketing:
After Obsidian was aquired by Microsoft, they released Outer Worlds. Which sucked massively.
But it sold well, and reviewed well. So it seems Microsoft does do the marketing for Obsidian.

However, Obsidian seems to use this breathing space to lower their ambitions, for some reason. They have fired all their good writers and hired bland SJWs in their place. So tbh Obsidian will now be a knock-off Bethesda.
 
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TheDiceMustRoll

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who was fired? Chris? Didnt he - by his own admission - quit?
 
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who was fired? Chris? Didnt he - by his own admission - quit?
Well, tbh I don't know if they were fired or quit. But results speak for themselves. PoE2 had extremely crap story, in spite of being the type of game where we should've been able to expect a good story. They let Carrie Patel be head writer or something, ffs.
 

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Is she also involved in this project, does anyone know?

I thought she was heading up the 2nd TOW DLC and got brought in to "fix" the writing and take charge of the writing from Kate D. in DLC1.

Might be on something else, but if so, avoiding it.
 

Flying Dutchman

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josh was fired from the pillars of eternity franchise rip

Except for the who-cares tabletop version, he probably quit PoE.

If what people here said is true, it probably only required him swallowing Feargus's full shaft down to the groin, cupping his slam-dunk basketballs in his hand, and holding back his tears as his trembling mouth firmly encircled Feargus' cock for a few minutes to buy his freedom. If that.
 
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TheDiceMustRoll

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lmao he probably just got bored and wanted to work on something else. ya'll realize he worked on pillars nonstop from 2012-2018 right? That's a chunk of his life right there
 

Luckmann

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Don't think the story was Deadfire's problem. It's just too easy - unless you play, on artificially inflated enemy stats.
Both. Definitely both.
 

vortex

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Two things Obsidan unable to break into Bethesda market share are.
1. Open world FPS/TPS RPG but doesn't have an easy to use modkit on par with Bethesda Creation Engine.
Hypothetically, can Obsidian now use Creation for Avowed? Sawyer always praised Bethesda's tools for being the best Obsidian used or something like that.
 
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Harry Easter

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Hypothetically, can Obsidian now use Creation for Avowed? Sawyer always praised Bethesda's tools for being the best Obsidian used or something like that.

There's a scary thought.

Any news or romours? I have googled the game and haven't found anything new on the official channels.
 

Flying Dutchman

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Obsidian is the gift that keeps on giving.

Apparently:

- Chris Parker and Feargus Slam Dunkulus got into a huge falling out over Avowed, guess it wasn't going great
- ...in front of the studio so everyone got to see it...
- ...after this, Parker gets yanked off Avowed (!).
- Bobby Null (lead designer?) also gets yanked off Avowed.
- Art Directors switch to someone else, not sure who.
- Not sure who new art, lead designer, and project director except the new project director and lead designer is "not Sawyer."

Not a good sign. Wow, what a clusterfuck.

Before you ask for citations, I got multiple citations on this info, but still happy to get more confirmation and any details I missed (kinda hoping someone here also can independently confirm this if they have access to Obsidian gossips and complainers/worriers).
 

Gordian Nutt

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Can confirm some rumors on Avowed...

None of these people are fired, just moved around

Parker gone from Avowed, replaced with Patel ughhhhhh
Bobby Null gone from Avowed
Art directors definitely switched, don't know old one or new one

I did not hear about a specific fight but these are big changes
No one talking about it seemed to think these changes were for a good reason, sounds like something bad happened

Extra confirmaton would be good
 

Briar Diem

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Obsidian is the gift that keeps on giving.

Apparently:

- Chris Parker and Feargus Slam Dunkulus got into a huge falling out over Avowed, guess it wasn't going great
- ...in front of the studio so everyone got to see it...
- ...after this, Parker gets yanked off Avowed (!).
- Bobby Null (lead designer?) also gets yanked off Avowed.
- Art Directors switch to someone else, not sure who.
- Not sure who new art, lead designer, and project director except the new project director and lead designer is "not Sawyer."

Not a good sign. Wow, what a clusterfuck.

Before you ask for citations, I got multiple citations on this info, but still happy to get more confirmation and any details I missed (kinda hoping someone here also can independently confirm this if they have access to Obsidian gossips and complainers/worriers).

Pattel is the new director. Matt Hansen is the new art director. Bobby Null wasn't the lead designer on this project, he was the creative director. There is no replacement for him so far.
 
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Quillon

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:roll::roll::roll::roll::roll: hope MS shuts the studio down lmao

they don't need to fund the surface-level clones now that they have bethesda
 

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