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[perfectslumbers]

Actually I think there's something wrong with the statblock I linked, it should be around 150

Edit: apparently that site has third party content on it, that's why

 

[perfectslumbers]

Okay I got out Volos and the archdruid in the book is an 18th level caster. Unlike the druid class feature archdruid the archdruid statblock can not wildshape infinitely. The only conclusion is that archdruid in 5e is a haphazardly applied term and that a 4th level druid being an archdruid is perfectly in accordance with 5e.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Okay I got out Volos and the archdruid in the book is an 18th level caster. Unlike the druid class feature archdruid the archdruid statblock can not wildshape infinitely. The only conclusion is that archdruid in 5e is a haphazardly applied term and that a 4th level druid being an archdruid is perfectly in accordance with 5e.

Worth noting that Halsin is indeed capable of sustaining wildshape for an indefinite period of time. I'd assume, based on the RAW reading of wild shape, one would have to be an archdruid to be capable of this as wildshape has a time limit.
Also, he wild shapes into a creature that requires a level significantly higher than what is shown ingame implying that is definitely not his level.

 

[Anonymous Wife Scholar]

Edit: apparently that site has third party content on it, that's why

Thank you anon! You are a good anon! I did say anon! I did! You are a good anon!

 

[perfectslumbers]

Thank you anon! You are a good anon! I did say anon! I did! You are a good anon!

Oh that's what 3p means, I had to figure it out on my own anon But thank you for the warning anon! Helpful anon!

 

[Anonymous Wife Scholar]

Worth noting that Halsin is indeed capable of wildshape for an indefinite period of time.
Also, he wild shapes into a creature that requires a level significantly higher than what is shown ingame implying that is definitely not his level.

What! Is it Hairy Sue nonsense anon! Is it! Is it Larian OC Do Not Steal nonsense anon! Is it! Do not worry anon it is okay anon because I do hate Larian CHARNAME Jaheira Hairy Sue cuckold nonsense anon but I do love cute Larian tsundere Shadowheart wife anon so it is okay anon! It is! You are a good anon!

 

[Anonymous Wife Scholar]

Oh that's what 3p means, I had to figure it out on my own anon But thank you for the warning anon! Helpful anon!

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[perfectslumbers]

Thank you comfy sleeps anon! Good strong energy wifes friend anon! I do love you anon! I do! You are a good strong friend anon!

I do loves you too anon! May you find many wifes anon!

 

[LJ40]

Sadly, those last 5 posts have somehow made this thread less gay.

 

[Anonymous Wife Scholar]

I do loves you too anon! May you find many wifes anon!

Thank you anon! You are a good strong friend anon!

 

[NJClaw]

iirc: Definition of arch druid in AD&D and 5e aren't the same.

nobody forced them to adapt someone's scat fetish and write an entire sex scene chapter for it

 

[rusty_shackleford]

iirc: Definition of arch druid in AD&D and 5e aren't the same.

nobody forced them to adapt someone's scat fetish and write an entire sex scene chapter for it

Rules vs module, quit being a retard.

 

[Cryomancer]

because it doesn't need changing,

It needs because the weakest of weak archdruid of the smalled druid grove should be at least lv 14. What is the next? Zulkir from red Wizards at lv 4? Archdruids in many novels are capable of destroying an entire city to protect his forest. That is how they should be. Not a weakling that can't kill a bunch of goblins. And is not only in D&D. In might & magic and every other game that I saw then, they where extremely strong.

A honest question. Is impression or every Larian cultist NEVER played BG1/2? If they try, they can't pass the starting dungeon. Here is a review of a Larian cultist who can't even cast a web spell or fireball only in the enemies

Some reviews of the true Baldur's Gate saga from Larian cultists. Just organize by negative only, press PGDN for a couple of seconds then search with CTRL + F "larian" or "divinity" or "DOS" and be happy

 

[Delterius]

It needs because the weakest of weak archdruid of the smalled druid grove should be at least lv 14.

sounds too autistic to stand up to scrutiny

'hey guys dame greenie greenthumbs, our leader, had a heart attack so let's become an anarchist commune until someone levels up. start killing rabbits its the best exp per hour.' - said no one ever

Okay I got out Volos and the archdruid in the book is an 18th level caster. Unlike the druid class feature archdruid the archdruid statblock can not wildshape infinitely. The only conclusion is that archdruid in 5e is a haphazardly applied term and that a 4th level druid being an archdruid is perfectly in accordance with 5e.

Worth noting that Halsin is indeed capable of sustaining wildshape for an indefinite period of time. I'd assume, based on the RAW reading of wild shape, one would have to be an archdruid to be capable of this as wildshape has a time limit.
Also, he wild shapes into a creature that requires a level significantly higher than what is shown ingame implying that is definitely not his level.

halsin's dedication to his plot twist is marvelous. he'll even pretend to be out of hitpoints.

 

[Swen]

because it doesn't need changing,

It needs because the weakest of weak archdruid of the smalled druid grove should be at least lv 14. What is the next? Zulkir from red Wizards at lv 4? Archdruids in many novels are capable of destroying an entire city to protect his forest. That is how they should be. Not a weakling that can't kill a bunch of goblins. And is not only in D&D. In might & magic and every other game that I saw then, they where extremely strong.

A honest question. Is impression or every Larian cultist NEVER played BG1/2? If they try, they can't pass the starting dungeon. Here is a review of a Larian cultist who can't even cast a web spell or fireball only in the enemies

Some reviews of the true Baldur's Gate saga from Larian cultists. Just organize by negative only, press PGDN for a couple of seconds then search with CTRL + F "larian" or "divinity" or "DOS" and be happy

They're right?

It was good back in the day but now it's outdated, archaic trash.

BG3 is better.

 

[Cryomancer]

They're right?

Wrong. This score is for the enhanced edition, after DECADES of decline in gaming. BG2 : Shadows of Amn in the past >

our leader, had a heart attack so let's become an anarchist commune until someone levels up

An archdruid will NEVER die from a heart attack. And their temporary leader would't be the archdruid. Simple as that.

 

[BruceVC]

because it doesn't need changing,

It needs because the weakest of weak archdruid of the smalled druid grove should be at least lv 14. What is the next? Zulkir from red Wizards at lv 4? Archdruids in many novels are capable of destroying an entire city to protect his forest. That is how they should be. Not a weakling that can't kill a bunch of goblins. And is not only in D&D. In might & magic and every other game that I saw then, they where extremely strong.

A honest question. Is impression or every Larian cultist NEVER played BG1/2? If they try, they can't pass the starting dungeon. Here is a review of a Larian cultist who can't even cast a web spell or fireball only in the enemies

Some reviews of the true Baldur's Gate saga from Larian cultists. Just organize by negative only, press PGDN for a couple of seconds then search with CTRL + F "larian" or "divinity" or "DOS" and be happy

They're right?

It was good back in the day but now it's outdated, archaic trash.

BG3 is better.

Cant BG2 and BG3 both be excellent RPG, thats how I expect my BG3 gaming experience to be when I get to play the full version . So far BG2:ToB was my favorite RPG of all time

So the overall enjoyment of BG2 vs BG3 shouldn't be mutually exclusive

 

[Delterius]

THINGS NEVER HAPPEN DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THE PLAYERS HANDBOOK SAYS

again, sounds a bit too autistic to stand up to scrutiny

you're telling me there isn't a single giant animated dire heart capable of eating the local archdruid? and why wouldn't the leader be called archdruid? are all druids supposed to be autistic? do druid groves that just use words with no regard for druid by-laws get excommunicated from the Great Archdruid Authority?

'sorry brosecus, you are level 13 and 9/10ths of the way to level 14, this ecologically printed memo from Edvard Verdantglade says we can only call you an archdruid if you kill ten thousand more rabbits. sorry i don't make the rules'

 

[Delterius]

Cant BG2 and BG3 both be excellent RPG

how dare you

 

[Reinhardt]

because it doesn't need changing,

It needs because the weakest of weak archdruid of the smalled druid grove should be at least lv 14. What is the next? Zulkir from red Wizards at lv 4? Archdruids in many novels are capable of destroying an entire city to protect his forest. That is how they should be. Not a weakling that can't kill a bunch of goblins. And is not only in D&D. In might & magic and every other game that I saw then, they where extremely strong.

A honest question. Is impression or every Larian cultist NEVER played BG1/2? If they try, they can't pass the starting dungeon. Here is a review of a Larian cultist who can't even cast a web spell or fireball only in the enemies

Some reviews of the true Baldur's Gate saga from Larian cultists. Just organize by negative only, press PGDN for a couple of seconds then search with CTRL + F "larian" or "divinity" or "DOS" and be happy

What's the problem? EE is shit. Can't recommend it to anyone.

 

[Swen]

They're right?

Wrong. This score is for the enhanced edition, after DECADES of decline in gaming. BG2 : Shadows of Amn in the past >

our leader, had a heart attack so let's become an anarchist commune until someone levels up

An archdruid will NEVER die from a heart attack. And their temporary leader would't be the archdruid. Simple as that.

Those reviews are from 2000, lol gaming moved on and most recent reviews of the ENHANCED edition aka the best version (minus beamdogs additions) is averaging around 80.

 

[Cryomancer]

THINGS NEVER HAPPEN DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THE PLAYERS HANDBOOK SAYS

again, sounds a bit too autistic to stand up to scrutiny

you're telling me there isn't a single giant animated dire heart capable of eating the local archdruid? and why wouldn't the leader be called archdruid? are all druids supposed to be autistic? do druid groves that just use words with no regard for druid by-laws get excommunicated from the Great Archdruid Authority?

'sorry brosecus, you are level 13 and 9/10ths of the way to level 14, this ecologically printed memo from Edvard Verdantglade says we can only call you an archdruid if you kill ten thousand more rabbits. sorry i don't make the rules'

No, the point is simple. An Archdruid is a druid who reached the 7th tier of nature divine magic(lv 14). Just like an archmage is a mage who mastered the 9th tier of arcane magic. And yes, in 2E, divine magic goes up to 7th tier and arcane to 9th tier. If the druid in question is close to get the 7th tier of magic but din't reached, he is not considered an archdruid. He still can be the most powerful druid of a grove and the druid leader, but not an arch druid. As for XP by killing, I prefer XP by training, questing, solving problems, studding and so on by a reason.

In 5E, an Archdruid according to this site is CR 25 > https://www.5esrd.com/database/creature/archdruid/

Titles linked with magical power is very common when you have tier based magic systems. In M&M 7, to become master in a school of magic, you need to be promoted to wizard, And gran master to archmage or lich. Even in anime, in Mushoku Tensei, magic is divided in 7 ranks with titles to the caster who reached that point.

https://mushokutensei.fandom.com/wiki/Magic#Magic_Circles:

That said, is silly to see a guy who can't cast tier 3 magic using that title of Archdruid. Imagine if Larian adapts Mushoku Tensei into a CRPG and makes a God level magician unable to cast Intermediate class spells.... Note that Fireball in Mushoku is a beginner spell.

What's the problem? EE is shit. C

The problem is not that they aren't recommending BG2:EE due EE stuff. They aren't recommending it due the BG2 stuff.

Those reviews are from 2000, lol gaming DECLINED...

Fixed for you.

Cant BG2 and BG3 both be excellent RPG, thats how I expect my BG3 gaming experience to be when I get to play the full version . So far BG2:ToB was my favorite RPG of all time

So the overall enjoyment of BG2 vs BG3 shouldn't be mutually exclusive

I never said that BG3 is bad. Only that BG2 is way better. And that Larian cultists should try it.

 

[Delterius]

An Archdruid is a druid who reached the 7th tier of nature divine magic(lv 14).

thats cool but we here in Orthodox Druidism do not recognize any Catholic Druidic Fatwas. our archdruids are just grove leaders.

As for XP by killing, I prefer XP by training, questing, solving problems, studding and so on by a reason.

rabbit killing training, rabbit killing for hire, solving the rabbit question, studying dead rabbit autonomy. it amounts to 200k experience per hour so get going and become the archdruid already.

 

[Grunker]

Meredoth: “Excuse me, what?? I’ll have you know that the PHB clearly states that the requirement to be a Paladin is 17 charisma, and Jacob rolled only 16!! That’s the difference between INSPIRING leadership and mere MAGNETIC attraction. Clearly the PHB only allows paladin of the former persuasion!!”

GM: “That’s OK, maybe Jacob’s character was kind of the black sheep in his chapter, or maybe more of a follower than a leader. I’ll let him play Paladin if he wants to. Lots of opportunity for roleplayi-“

Meredoth: *FLIPS TABLE* “Excuse me??? So, what, I can just go get the shotgun and shoot your dog, too? SINCE CLEARLY THERE ARE NO RULES ALL IS CHAOS AND WE CAN SIMPLY DO WHATEVER THE HELL WE WANT TO BECAUSE NOTHING MATTERS AND EVERYTHING IS A LIE”

 

[Cryomancer]

GM: “That’s OK, maybe Jacob’s character was kind of the black sheep in his chapter, or maybe more of a follower than a leader. I’ll let him play Paladin if he wants to. Lots of opportunity for roleplayi-“

The DM can do wathever he wanna. Including giving formal training to Barbarians who are all woman with miscarriage and castrating his paladins Lacrymas style. However, a CRPG that is adapting the TT should IMO be somehow faithful.

thats cool but we here in Orthodox Druidism do not recognize any Catholic Druidic Fatwas. our archdruids are just grove leaders.

Yep. You do whatever you want in your game. However, a D&D product should be consistent with D&D lore.