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You're just telling on yourself buddy. All you're exposing to everyone is that high ratings mean nothing coming from your mediocre mouth, wouldn't understand greatness if it hit you in your face.
If you want to argue about pointless, trivial shit then get married. Eight is my baseline for unambiguously good, and you're just going to have to live with it.
Okay, that sounds like something a modern journalist would say. Someone who forgot there are lower scores. If 8/10 is good, and 7/10 is mediocre, how about the other scores? Is 6/10 already bad or is that 5/10? Is 3/10 terrible, or do we need to go even lower? What is even the point of a 10 point scale if you're just gonna be generous?

I'm not saying you're wrong or anything, I simply don't understand this approach.
 

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A lot of ink spilled over an all-in-all decent game who continued Larian's unofficial mission of putting TB back on the map. No matter my criticism for their games (especially DoS2) and the many issues of BG3, they have done a ton to salvage the genre away from atrocities like RTwP.

If you still get bothered by mouth breathing normies hyping shit up to the stars on jewtube to the point that you feel the need to post your autistic drooling on the codex, you need to take some meds!
 

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It's clear you have ZERO knowledge about game development. Creativity is most important, being burned out on a project/setting is a legit argument to change course.
Maybe that's true for AA developers with a small team. But that's not how it works for AAA games with large budgets, huge teams, and investors.

All of this is simply marketing spin and PR. It's clear you have zero knowledge about game development. It's a business and MONEY is most important. You Larian fags are living in a dream world.
 

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TB back on the map
TB was never off the map. TB is way more popular system than RTwP, especially among normies and console players at that. Very strange persecution complex.
Aside from the D:OS series, all the "big" mainstream isometric party-based fantasy CRPGs released since BG1 have been RTwP. BG1, BG2, IWD1, IWD2, NWN, NWN2, DA:O, Pillars of Eternity, Deadfire, Tyranny, and Pathfinder: Kingmaker. Sure, we got ToEE, KotC, and stuff like Expeditions: Viking, but those are very minor releases compared to the big RTwP names.

I hate Larian and the 7-man cuck-squad, Belgium is like the worst country in the history of humanity, but at least they gave us the first TB D&D CRPG in 20 years. I have students that weren't even born when ToEE got released.
 

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BG1, BG2, IWD1, IWD2, NWN, NWN2, DA:O, Pillars of Eternity, Deadfire, Tyranny, and Pathfinder: Kingmaker
You just literally quoted almost entire RTwP library of RPGs in a single sentence lmao. And like 3 studios made all of them as explicit spiritual successor to BG. There's a single series of TB games that have more games in them than the entire library of RTwP, like Dragon Quest or SMT. As i said, TB fans are persecution complex having weirdos.
 

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TB back on the map
TB was never off the map. TB is way more popular system than RTwP, especially among normies and console players at that. Very strange persecution complex.
It remained relatively popular only in JRPGs/consoles. TB western RPGs basically disappeared until recently (Spiderweb was the notable developer that still published RPG-TB games for PC during the RTwP era and after. Niche of the Niche.)
 
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TB back on the map
TB was never off the map. TB is way more popular system than RTwP, especially among normies and console players at that. Very strange persecution complex.
Aside from the D:OS series, all the "big" mainstream isometric party-based fantasy CRPGs released since BG1 have been RTwP. BG1, BG2, IWD1, IWD2, NWN, NWN2, DA:O, Pillars of Eternity, Deadfire, Tyranny, and Pathfinder: Kingmaker. Sure, we got ToEE, KotC, and stuff like Expeditions: Viking, but those are very minor releases compared to the big RTwP names.

I hate Larian and the 7-man cuck-squad, Belgium is like the worst country in the history of humanity, but at least they gave us the first TB D&D CRPG in 20 years. I have students that weren't even born when ToEE got released.
Are you dutch?
 

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BG1, BG2, IWD1, IWD2, NWN, NWN2, DA:O, Pillars of Eternity, Deadfire, Tyranny, and Pathfinder: Kingmaker
You just literally quoted almost entire RTwP library of RPGs in a single sentence lmao. And like 3 studios made all of them as explicit spiritual successor to BG. There's a single series of TB games that have more games in them than the entire library of RTwP, like Dragon Quest or SMT. As i said, TB fans are persecution complex having weirdos.
I may have quoted the entire RTwP library of CRPGs in a single sentence, but you can't even name a single game without going into a different genre altogether. Name ONE (1) big western fantasy RPG. Even better, name ONE (1) big western fantasy RPG that adapts D&D.

BG3 takes many dumb liberties, but at least it tries to adapt D&D in a TB system as faithfully as a Belgian brain permits. That's something we hadn't seen in mainstream CRPGs in a long time.
 

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BG1, BG2, IWD1, IWD2, NWN, NWN2, DA:O, Pillars of Eternity, Deadfire, Tyranny, and Pathfinder: Kingmaker
You just literally quoted almost entire RTwP library of RPGs in a single sentence lmao. And like 3 studios made all of them as explicit spiritual successor to BG. There's a single series of TB games that have more games in them than the entire library of RTwP, like Dragon Quest or SMT. As i said, TB fans are persecution complex having weirdos.
I may have quoted the entire RTwP library of CRPGs in a single sentence, but you can't even name a single game without going into a different genre altogether. Name ONE (1) big western fantasy RPG. Even better, name ONE (1) big western fantasy RPG that adapts D&D.

BG3 takes many dumb liberties, but at least it tries to adapt D&D in a TB system as faithfully as a Belgian brain permits. That's something we hadn't seen in mainstream CRPGs in a long time.
Wasteland 2 comes to mind.
 

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BG1, BG2, IWD1, IWD2, NWN, NWN2, DA:O, Pillars of Eternity, Deadfire, Tyranny, and Pathfinder: Kingmaker
You just literally quoted almost entire RTwP library of RPGs in a single sentence lmao. And like 3 studios made all of them as explicit spiritual successor to BG. There's a single series of TB games that have more games in them than the entire library of RTwP, like Dragon Quest or SMT. As i said, TB fans are persecution complex having weirdos.
I may have quoted the entire RTwP library of CRPGs in a single sentence, but you can't even name a single game without going into a different genre altogether. Name ONE (1) big western fantasy RPG. Even better, name ONE (1) big western fantasy RPG that adapts D&D.

BG3 takes many dumb liberties, but at least it tries to adapt D&D in a TB system as faithfully as a Belgian brain permits. That's something we hadn't seen in mainstream CRPGs in a long time.
Wasteland 2 comes to mind.
Can it be considered mainstream, tho?
 

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BG1, BG2, IWD1, IWD2, NWN, NWN2, DA:O, Pillars of Eternity, Deadfire, Tyranny, and Pathfinder: Kingmaker
You just literally quoted almost entire RTwP library of RPGs in a single sentence lmao. And like 3 studios made all of them as explicit spiritual successor to BG. There's a single series of TB games that have more games in them than the entire library of RTwP, like Dragon Quest or SMT. As i said, TB fans are persecution complex having weirdos.
I may have quoted the entire RTwP library of CRPGs in a single sentence, but you can't even name a single game without going into a different genre altogether. Name ONE (1) big western fantasy RPG. Even better, name ONE (1) big western fantasy RPG that adapts D&D.

BG3 takes many dumb liberties, but at least it tries to adapt D&D in a TB system as faithfully as a Belgian brain permits. That's something we hadn't seen in mainstream CRPGs in a long time.
D&D isn't really as special or outstanding as it used to be since a very long time, mainly because of the WotC treatment. If the wokeniks behind Cuckfinder knew how to get a setting right, they could've become a viable alternative, but there's little if any settings left to adapt into cRPGs.

What's so huge about adapting a TT setting into a cRPG anyway? Smells like some people want to make BG3 sound like everything it isn't, like being a true sequel to the classics and not a Divinity reskin.
 

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BG1, BG2, IWD1, IWD2, NWN, NWN2, DA:O, Pillars of Eternity, Deadfire, Tyranny, and Pathfinder: Kingmaker
You just literally quoted almost entire RTwP library of RPGs in a single sentence lmao. And like 3 studios made all of them as explicit spiritual successor to BG. There's a single series of TB games that have more games in them than the entire library of RTwP, like Dragon Quest or SMT. As i said, TB fans are persecution complex having weirdos.
I may have quoted the entire RTwP library of CRPGs in a single sentence, but you can't even name a single game without going into a different genre altogether. Name ONE (1) big western fantasy RPG. Even better, name ONE (1) big western fantasy RPG that adapts D&D.

BG3 takes many dumb liberties, but at least it tries to adapt D&D in a TB system as faithfully as a Belgian brain permits. That's something we hadn't seen in mainstream CRPGs in a long time.
D&D isn't really as special or outstanding as it used to be since a very long time, mainly because of the WotC treatment. If the wokeniks behind Cuckfinder knew how to get a setting right, they could've become a viable alternative, but there's little if any settings left to adapt into cRPGs.

What's so huge about adapting a TT setting into a cRPG anyway? Smells like some people want to make BG3 sound like everything it isn't, like being a true sequel to the classics and not a Divinity reskin.
That was the point from the start. Name recognition. The game has nothing to do with the Bhaalspawn Saga and all references to it were purely added to justify the name.

The story is extremely retarded the longer you think about it.
 

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That was the point from the start. Name recognition. The game has nothing to do with the Bhaalspawn Saga and all references to it were purely added to justify the name.

The story is extremely retarded the longer you think about it.

Durge origin does - afaik that was originally supposed to be the standard origin/tav(you were supposed to play a Bhaalspawn).

I'm not a fan of the writing, faggotry and wokeness and a lot of other things, but to call this game trash misses the mark.

It is a better game than the original Black Isle/Bioware rtwp games for instance. By far. Better combat, better C&C and reactivity.
 
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Durge origin does - afaik that was originally supposed to be the standard origin/tav(you were supposed to play a Bhaalspawn).
Created from the god himself. Not a rape baby, so no humanity. No real free will. Why would something like that suddenly turn into a cleric of a good deity? Where would its power come from?

The focus was on all the Illithid bullshit, not the Bhaalspawn.
 

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Durge origin does - afaik that was originally supposed to be the standard origin/tav(you were supposed to play a Bhaalspawn).
Created from the god himself. Not a rape baby, so no humanity. No real free will. Why would something like that suddenly turn into a cleric of a good deity? Where would its power come from?

The focus was on all the Illithid bullshit, not the Bhaalspawn.

I already agreed that the writing is retarded. Just pointing out that this was more of an actual sequel during earlier stages of development.
 

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Durge origin does - afaik that was originally supposed to be the standard origin/tav(you were supposed to play a Bhaalspawn).
Created from the god himself. Not a rape baby, so no humanity. No real free will. Why would something like that suddenly turn into a cleric of a good deity? Where would its power come from?

The focus was on all the Illithid bullshit, not the Bhaalspawn.

I already agreed that the writing is retarded. Just pointing out that this was more of an actual sequel during earlier stages of development.
Fair enough.
The Durge thing could have worked but clearly clashed with the intention of freeform character generation. I don't think anyone would've wanted to play a game where you're heavily race/class restricted into something evil.
 

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This was arguably the case with the original series too though. Many classes and races didn't make sense in the context of an orphan raised by an archmage in candlekeep. Specially the classes they added in the sequel(e.g: Barbarian).

Larian doesn't seem to care at all about consistency and that is annoying. I understand that they put Dark Urge's canon race and class through an internet vote or something, but that they went with a Dragonborn Sorcerer is still utterly retarded.

(And the people voting back then obviously had no idea that this was a Bhaalspawn and etc).
 

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