Excidium II
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Also for some reason BGEE is not on sale on steam, while BG2EE is.
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I'll make sure to raffle a couple copies for you guys so that you don't have to 'support' it.
Tigranes
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Makes it better, it's still an annoying surcharge for shit you don't want rather than TERRIBRU.
And find a new job he did...
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Even though gaider has been a pretty bad writer with bioware, his work is still far superior to the utter garbage reflected in the added content for the EE's.
Also, didn't realize they brought back brent knowles.
If they lure James ohlen from his purgatory at bioware austin to keep them from fucking up the combat design and earn enough money from this interquel to fund the project, they might be able to make a decent game.
Also, didn't realize they brought back brent knowles.
If they lure James ohlen from his purgatory at bioware austin to keep them from fucking up the combat design and earn enough money from this interquel to fund the project, they might be able to make a decent game.
It is not standalone AFAIK.
What, this isn't standalone? I'm not paying more than $10 for an EE and that's only if I'm assured DoS is good!Btw I haven't watched the stream yet.
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They only have a license to make an "expansion" to BG (WOTC hasn't tended to grant licenses for new games using previous versions of DnD, their focus has been on pushing 5e with gems like... Sword Coast Legends). We don't know the pricing yet so probably too early to bitch, they could just make a joint package with BGEE a token $1 or something.
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Did they actually do that? As in: brought to the game up to the QA standard of original releases with official patches? I tried running BG II EE not so long ago and encountered a serious bug with the djinn quest in the very first dungeon.
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I have not seen any bugs in BG1EE for a long time now.
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What, this isn't standalone? I'm not paying more than $10 for an EE and that's only if I'm assured DoS is good!
http://store.steampowered.com/app/228280/
Safe bet that they are going to do some 70-80% sale when this is released.
I dunno, I would feel.....unclean playing this instead of the original.
What, this isn't standalone? I'm not paying more than $10 for an EE and that's only if I'm assured DoS is good!
http://store.steampowered.com/app/228280/
Safe bet that they are going to do some 70-80% sale when this is released.
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People found under amazing contributors are official beta test volunteers (or alpha in the case of IWDEE). In some cases their status may have changed over time.
Edit: I meant to say these are listed as volunteer alpha testers in IWDEE.
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It's also a list that matches modder nicknames to Mobygames profiles, allowing us to see which of them were hired by Beamdog.
And I see we have another one: http://www.shsforums.net/topic/58037-eve-of-war-work-in-progress/#entry576485
Just watched the stream... I will refrain from the toughest comments that come to my mind only because there's a Beamdog developer on the Codex...
- But still... first off, I am simply thrilled by the decision to have one third of the horizontal space on my screen taken up by a useless Twitch frame/ad, and then one 1/4 of the remaining horizontal space being taken up by UI elements, while all the action revolves in a rectangle 3x2 inches on a 1280x800 screen.
- The arrangement of a short row of buttons underneath a wider console log is bad. I'm mentioning it although it was already said that the player will be able to rearrange UI elements.
- It's cringeworthy when a streamer goes "Yaay!" with the authentic enthusiasm of a sex-line worker. Please never do it.
- Talking about cringeworthy - so is interrupting a stream in order to promote your branded t-shirts. Using the word "beautiful" to describe a Heavy Metal band-worthy, black t-shirt, with a dragon's head on it, was just depressing.
- The new journal update system - I hope it can be turned off. You shouldn't have bothered imo. The only thing it improves is the gorgeous chance to finish a conversation that ends in battle, and just as you're going to click on an enemy, the stupid journal update pops up underneath your mouse pointer. Who the hell uses popups anyway? Paradox in HoI2? Beamdog should drop this nonsense!
- I'm really happy to hear about mucho reactivity in quests. I'm hoping for mutually exclusive and class/attribute-gated content. I think this adds to replay value and it was a huge mistake in PoE that they had made all quest resolutions give you the same rewards. Glad you haven't gone this way.
- I'm not a fan of the smoothened looking UI buttons' icons. Overall, the UI background was looking pretty dark, but this is probably due to the video quality. I liked the item icons that I had a chance to see.
- I said this to Obsidian too - it's useless, utterly useless, to leave empty space under the console log and other UI elements and to have them float in the air above the bottom of the screen. This is wasting valuable pixels while giving nothing to the player.
- Highlighting of lines of dialogue text on mouse over is overkill.
- These healthbars... whatever, I better not say anything, they are toggleable anyways.
- I don't see any use of the weapon icons on top of portraits.
- I had forgotten the satisfaction I associated with the sound of my characters scoring hits on an enemy. Thanks for not changing those.
- I was really happy of the feature "Absence of a Stash". It costs very little resources to implement and improves the gameplay immensly. The player has to actually make a call on what to carry and what to leave (taking into account the fact that items decay from the world with time, unlike in PoE).
- The combat looked and felt great. I had forgotten how nice it is to have a combat with an actual rhythm and pace to it, without inane and undocumented recovery time mechanics. Enemy behavior was unpredictable, instead of all enemies rushing to melee with a character they chose only once, at the beginning of battle, like I have gotten used to seeing them do in PoE.
- I fell for the bitter irony of the grain-moving quest. Good job.
- The voice acting is indeed spot-on. It felt indiscernable in style from the original games.
- I understand the portrait-highlighting tips for who is the optimal wielder of an item, as an insult to your players' intelligence.
- If that's the tip of the iceberg of interface improvements, please stop here. And whoever's idea it was that half the inventory screen will show nothing useful, just be black 90% of the time, it was a bad idea. The only good thing I see about the new UI is that it's moddable.
- The areas, to the extent to which I was able to see them, squinting at my laptop's display were very much on par with PoE's which means very very beautiful.
- "Sometimes you have to walk the line between being challenging and being frustrating. We try to err on the side of challenging."
- In filling areas with curious characters to talk to, and situations in which to take action, Obsidian should study SoD and work in the same direction.
- The "Valley Girl Drow" was a really fresh idea.
- That Priests scrolls screen... I realize you wanted to have more space for the important stuff, compared to the original layout, but please fix this.
Overall, I'm a cautious optimist about SoD ("Service of Denial"). The best surprise will be if the game really proves to be as imaginative and original content-wise, as the stream suggested.
- But still... first off, I am simply thrilled by the decision to have one third of the horizontal space on my screen taken up by a useless Twitch frame/ad, and then one 1/4 of the remaining horizontal space being taken up by UI elements, while all the action revolves in a rectangle 3x2 inches on a 1280x800 screen.
- The arrangement of a short row of buttons underneath a wider console log is bad. I'm mentioning it although it was already said that the player will be able to rearrange UI elements.
- It's cringeworthy when a streamer goes "Yaay!" with the authentic enthusiasm of a sex-line worker. Please never do it.
- Talking about cringeworthy - so is interrupting a stream in order to promote your branded t-shirts. Using the word "beautiful" to describe a Heavy Metal band-worthy, black t-shirt, with a dragon's head on it, was just depressing.
- The new journal update system - I hope it can be turned off. You shouldn't have bothered imo. The only thing it improves is the gorgeous chance to finish a conversation that ends in battle, and just as you're going to click on an enemy, the stupid journal update pops up underneath your mouse pointer. Who the hell uses popups anyway? Paradox in HoI2? Beamdog should drop this nonsense!
- I'm really happy to hear about mucho reactivity in quests. I'm hoping for mutually exclusive and class/attribute-gated content. I think this adds to replay value and it was a huge mistake in PoE that they had made all quest resolutions give you the same rewards. Glad you haven't gone this way.
- I'm not a fan of the smoothened looking UI buttons' icons. Overall, the UI background was looking pretty dark, but this is probably due to the video quality. I liked the item icons that I had a chance to see.
- I said this to Obsidian too - it's useless, utterly useless, to leave empty space under the console log and other UI elements and to have them float in the air above the bottom of the screen. This is wasting valuable pixels while giving nothing to the player.
- Highlighting of lines of dialogue text on mouse over is overkill.
- These healthbars... whatever, I better not say anything, they are toggleable anyways.
- I don't see any use of the weapon icons on top of portraits.
- I had forgotten the satisfaction I associated with the sound of my characters scoring hits on an enemy. Thanks for not changing those.
- I was really happy of the feature "Absence of a Stash". It costs very little resources to implement and improves the gameplay immensly. The player has to actually make a call on what to carry and what to leave (taking into account the fact that items decay from the world with time, unlike in PoE).
- The combat looked and felt great. I had forgotten how nice it is to have a combat with an actual rhythm and pace to it, without inane and undocumented recovery time mechanics. Enemy behavior was unpredictable, instead of all enemies rushing to melee with a character they chose only once, at the beginning of battle, like I have gotten used to seeing them do in PoE.
- I fell for the bitter irony of the grain-moving quest. Good job.
- The voice acting is indeed spot-on. It felt indiscernable in style from the original games.
- I understand the portrait-highlighting tips for who is the optimal wielder of an item, as an insult to your players' intelligence.
- If that's the tip of the iceberg of interface improvements, please stop here. And whoever's idea it was that half the inventory screen will show nothing useful, just be black 90% of the time, it was a bad idea. The only good thing I see about the new UI is that it's moddable.
- The areas, to the extent to which I was able to see them, squinting at my laptop's display were very much on par with PoE's which means very very beautiful.
- "Sometimes you have to walk the line between being challenging and being frustrating. We try to err on the side of challenging."
- In filling areas with curious characters to talk to, and situations in which to take action, Obsidian should study SoD and work in the same direction.
- The "Valley Girl Drow" was a really fresh idea.
- That Priests scrolls screen... I realize you wanted to have more space for the important stuff, compared to the original layout, but please fix this.
Overall, I'm a cautious optimist about SoD ("Service of Denial"). The best surprise will be if the game really proves to be as imaginative and original content-wise, as the stream suggested.
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Irenaeus III
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Please don't.
aVENGER
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There's no need, we are always open to constructive criticism.
Yes, the journal popups can be toggled on/off from the Options menu, same as the healthbars.
Keeping in mind that I'm speaking with real people makes me omit the unconstructive free associations
Keeping UI additions configurable through the game options is really the best policy. Best of luck with winning the audience. I'll await the reviews and I hope SoD raises the bar in the whole "IE-like niche" of RPGs.
Electryon
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The QA standards of the original games were at least as non-existent as the ones for the Enhanced Editions. The only reason the BG games were ever made nearly bug-free was because of unofficial patches by the modding community. As for your question though, as of patch 1.3 for both games, they are pretty solidly stable and hundreds of bugs have been ironed out. I've never encountered an issue with BG1 and very minor ones in BG2.
I'm not saying anyone should absolutely buy the Enhanced Editions. BUT if you are new to the game, or just don't want to fuck around with Tutu or Trilogy and the Widescreen mod and the bug fixes, there is no real reason to shy away from them either. People have valid reasons for playing the originals, I've almost switched back myself on several occasions. But this idea that the EEs are some kind of blight on humanity is just absurd. If you want to pick on a remake that really IS that bad, Heroes of Might and Magic 3 HD is ripe for the picking....
Is it possible to play SoD without going through BG1 again? And to just select what NPCs from BG1 I should have with me?
Electryon
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Yes. It will be the same as being able to select starting right off in Throne of Bhaal once it's installed. Unsure how the NPCs work, or what BG1 NPCs are making the journey to the expansion. There are also 4 new ones that are SoD exclusive.
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Will I be able to import my BG:SoD character into BG:II?
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Why change perfect BG2 UI to something like this ? Same with font.
Though they said it is work in progress.
I hope there will be option for solid art designed UI. Can't stand free spaces and hate NWN like UI.
If they want to make inmprovements to UI they should focus first and foremost on rebindable keys from game itself. Want to use some skill you always use ? Hover it and press F1 or whatever key you want. Pressing alt shows you magic book and when you take of that press it autocloses.
Also framerate ? Is that me or i saw poor framerate ? Though this might be caused by game speed which i am not used to as i played mostly IE games with 45fps animation speed.
Other than that can't really comment of rest of stuff. Need to play it.
Though they said it is work in progress.
I hope there will be option for solid art designed UI. Can't stand free spaces and hate NWN like UI.
If they want to make inmprovements to UI they should focus first and foremost on rebindable keys from game itself. Want to use some skill you always use ? Hover it and press F1 or whatever key you want. Pressing alt shows you magic book and when you take of that press it autocloses.
Also framerate ? Is that me or i saw poor framerate ? Though this might be caused by game speed which i am not used to as i played mostly IE games with 45fps animation speed.
Other than that can't really comment of rest of stuff. Need to play it.
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Yes, into BG2EE
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